US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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It's worse than that, though; as shown earlier in the thread with the pinky and the brain, they used to make fun of particularly bad democrats.

Pretty much since Obama and especially after Trump they won't even lampoon even the silliest of Dems.
Back when I was a normie, you had no idea how many times I had to sit through the writers of something creating a character that’s on obvious stand in for trump, or on tumblr or twitter the writer talking about trump is going to kill all gays. And it’s the fact that they made fun of trump was the problem. The us president always gets joked made about them for years it’s just how it is. It’s just that the amount of media that consistently had the same joke repeated ad nasuem is that what made it werid. And what’s even worse is that the content creators of the time were even worse. it’s just so weird looking back on all of it.
 
lol I don't think white people are bad or need to be punished. I just think it's hysterical that you retards simp hard for billionaires and blame minorities for yourselves being poor while loving and demanding more of your money go to billionaires, who are the ones that are robbing you blind and responsible for your life being so shitty.
So you support Pajeet h1bs and Illegals suppressing wages. You support billionaires that way retard.
 
I think gerrymandering is wrong no matter who does it, but it's hilarious how you guys are cheering on Texas doing it then seething when California is doing the same thing in response.

So you agree california is wrong to abandon its commission and jerry mander? See were not so different

Also California should not let the events in texas lead it doing something bad.

And finally how gerrymandered is the new map? Didnt look too bad to me.
 
Gerrymandering has been going on since like 1810 or something like that. It's all over the nation. Both sides have been using it. Hopefully they'll get rid of it somehow but any system they devise to get rid of it will undoubtably be corrupted to make it even worse.
 
It's worse than that, though; as shown earlier in the thread with the pinky and the brain, they used to make fun of particularly bad democrats.

Pretty much since Obama and especially after Trump they won't even lampoon even the silliest of Dems.
also alot of the issues dem voters have now with the dem establishment pertains to things like gaza or actually doing things the wealthy donors wont like vs just paying lip service so that of course cant be allowed.
 
I think gerrymandering is wrong no matter who does it, but it's hilarious how you guys are cheering on Texas doing it then seething when California is doing the same thing in response.
I wouldn't say that the criterion for fair maps should be having the proportion of congress members of each party most closely match the partisan voting patterns of a state; but on the theory that it's all about power and control, the point of gerrymandering is to most effectively force a state away from that equilibrium. And that's the thing, Texas doing what it's doing may be bad, I dunno, the proposed map doesn't look that crazy to me, but it has an obvious partisan result.

However, the reason California is in the conversation is because its governor Newsom started that conversation by threatening to reciprocate; but only in one direction. He's not offering that if Texas redistricts to have proportional partisan representation (increasing the number of Democratic congress members they're likely to send) he'll do the same in California. The reason his threats are laughable is that Republicans have more to gain from the hypothetical "fair" map than they would lose from the further gerrymandered map he's proposing, i.e. California is already drawn up to massively disenfranchise the huge number of Republicans in the state. If there's a race to the bottom, Democratic states do not have nearly as far to the bottom as their rhetoric implies, which is to say their gun is not actually loaded and it's just part of Newsom's theatrics in preparation for his obvious 2028 presidential run.
 
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On May 8, the Vatican elected Pope Leo XIV — formerly Robert Francis Prevost — the first American-born pope. With this unprecedented event came an equally unprecedented problem: the Pope is now subject to U.S. taxation on his worldwide income, thanks to America’s outdated citizenship-based tax system.

In response, lawmakers introduced the Holy Sovereignty Protection Act (H.R. 4501) to exempt Pope Leo XIV from U.S. taxation. But this raises a critical question: If the Pope deserves relief, why not the 5 million other Americans living abroad?

Meanwhile, The Residence-Based Taxation for Americans Abroad Act (H.R. 10468 ), introduced by Rep. Darin LaHood would allow Americans overseas to be taxed only on U.S.-source income, aligning our system with the rest of the world.


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The Pope is a recognized head of state. He has diplomatic immunity.
 
So are people just going to MIB neuralyze themselves into not remembering that Trump was one of the main people who worked with the feds to have Epstein thrown in prison in the first place? Is that the strategy?
This has been argued every time Epstein is brought up and at some point you just have to accept the people trying tie down Trump with Epstein associations are arguing in bad faith. They don't actually care, they just want Trump to lose or die.
 
It just confuses me. Trump being implicated as a co-rapist makes literally zero sense in any context over the past 20 years of the Epstein timeline.

Trump banned Epstein from all of his properties and cut contact with him upon finding out about his illicit activities, he worked directly with the authorities to have Epstein charged, the prosecution had nothing but praise for how helpful and transparent Trump was, the LSJ victims have directly exonerated Trump multiple times, Trump only appeared on the flight logs once and it wasn't to LSJ nor on the Lolita Express, and at no point did the same people who tried to have Trump thrown in prison over him misfiling a hooker payment use the apparent smoking gun documentation on Trump that would have his entire reputation destroyed forever instantly.

If Trump was directly implicated in the files, and ALWAYS was, then none of that makes sense. Neither Trumps behavior nor the people opposing him makes any sense if that kind of dirt actually existed. The only thing that lines up with him being implicated in the files is him not releasing them right now and acting weird about it, which could have a dozen other explanations that don't directly contradict the other 90% of this entire saga of events.
 
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It just confuses me. Trump being implicated as a co-rapist makes literally zero sense in any context over the past 20 years of the Epstein timeline.

Trump banned Epstein from all of his properties and cut contact with him upon finding out about his illicit activities, he worked directly with the prosecution to have Epstein charged, said prosecution had nothing but praise for how helpful and transparent Trump was, the LSJ victims have directly exonerated Trump multiple times, Trump only appeared on the flight logs once and it wasn't to LSJ nor on the Lolita Express, and at no point did the same people who tried to have Trump thrown in prison over him misfiling a hooker payment use the apparent smoking gun documentation on Trump that would have his entire reputation destroyed forever.

If Trump was directly implicated in the files, and ALWAYS was, then none of that makes sense. The only thing that lines up with him being implicated in the files is him not releasing them right now and acting weird about it, which could have a dozen other explanations that don't directly contradict the other 90% of this entire saga of events.
None of this matters to them. They want him to be a pedo and will use any justification to label him as one. All of the other labels they've tried to stick onto him haven't stuck and this is just their latest attempt.
 
None of this matters to them. They want him to be a pedo and will use any justification to label him as one. All of the other labels they've tried to stick onto him haven't stuck and this is just their latest attempt.
I feel like Orange man stuck pretty good, but it's more endearing than disparaging.
 
It just confuses me. Trump being implicated as a co-rapist makes literally zero sense in any context over the past 20 years of the Epstein timeline.

Trump banned Epstein from all of his properties and cut contact with him upon finding out about his illicit activities, he worked directly with the authorities to have Epstein charged, the prosecution had nothing but praise for how helpful and transparent Trump was, the LSJ victims have directly exonerated Trump multiple times, Trump only appeared on the flight logs once and it wasn't to LSJ nor on the Lolita Express, and at no point did the same people who tried to have Trump thrown in prison over him misfiling a hooker payment use the apparent smoking gun documentation on Trump that would have his entire reputation destroyed forever instantly.

If Trump was directly implicated in the files, and ALWAYS was, then none of that makes sense. Neither Trumps behavior nor the people opposing him make any sense if that kind of dirt actually existed. The only thing that lines up with him being implicated in the files is him not releasing them right now and acting weird about it, which could have a dozen other explanations that don't directly contradict the other 90% of this entire saga of events.
You have to keep in mind how desperate the left is for even the semblance of a win right now. They've taken a massive pounding this past year not just in concrete terms but in optics terms.

The epstein thing is the only angle that has come even remotely close to sticking after about 20 failed attempts so they're going all in on it. I don't think it's going to stay because even people on the right/middle who want the files released can see clear as a day how disingenuous the left is being a bout it, but it's all they've got.
 
You are a duplicitous faggot or have no fucking clue what you're talking about. What color are your hands?


Because they have to follow the standard process that literally every other bill has to follow.

- Bill introduced, filed with the House - Day 1 of special session
- Bill read on house floor, referred to Committee for review - Day 2 of special session
- Bill reviewed by committee to ensure it does what it says on the tin, voted on by committee, read a second time on House floor - Day 3 of special session
- Bill debated on the House floor, chance for amendments to be made, voted on if there are no changes. Day 4 of special session, they are debating it right now.

Representative Democracy being fucking slow is a feature not a bug and as frustrating as that can be, trying to say them taking only 4 days to pass a gerrymandering bill is too slow is retarded. This is the kind of bill that politicians will fight tooth and nail over, but it's going to pass about as fast as you could hope for.

Posturing and bluffing to get a desirable outcome is par for the course in politics. All your accusations of grandstanding means jack and shit because the Dems caved and came back. They're weak willed faggots and don't want to have to risk paying $25K per person out of their own pockets every month to stop the Republicans from steam rolling them.
You must be related to Ken Paxton. My bad.
 
None of this matters to them. They want him to be a pedo and will use any justification to label him as one. All of the other labels they've tried to stick onto him haven't stuck and this is just their latest attempt.
They’re getting more unhinged and insane over time.
 
It just confuses me. Trump being implicated as a co-rapist makes literally zero sense in any context over the past 20 years of the Epstein timeline.

Trump banned Epstein from all of his properties and cut contact with him upon finding out about his illicit activities, he worked directly with the authorities to have Epstein charged, the prosecution had nothing but praise for how helpful and transparent Trump was, the LSJ victims have directly exonerated Trump multiple times, Trump only appeared on the flight logs once and it wasn't to LSJ nor on the Lolita Express, and at no point did the same people who tried to have Trump thrown in prison over him misfiling a hooker payment use the apparent smoking gun documentation on Trump that would have his entire reputation destroyed forever instantly.

If Trump was directly implicated in the files, and ALWAYS was, then none of that makes sense. Neither Trumps behavior nor the people opposing him makes any sense if that kind of dirt actually existed. The only thing that lines up with him being implicated in the files is him not releasing them right now and acting weird about it, which could have a dozen other explanations that don't directly contradict the other 90% of this entire saga of events.
There is neither past nor future. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the DNC is always right.
 
Gerrymandering has been going on since like 1810 or something like that. It's all over the nation. Both sides have been using it. Hopefully they'll get rid of it somehow but any system they devise to get rid of it will undoubtably be corrupted to make it even worse.
How about we try trial by combat? It can't be worse that whatever legal monstrosity is created in the name of reducing gerrymandering. I'd suggest HEMA with non blunted weapons and the federal government can host a livestream of it.
 
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