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Lolicons and troons shitting themselves over stronger age verification controls shows us their true intentions and almost makes it worth the privacy implications.
Nigga have you seen the UK? It *is* the pedos, troons, and rapists that are asking for age verification. They know that shit isn't going to stop them from getting kids, this shit isn't going to even inconvenience them in getting kids.

What it will do is let the pedos like this "chief of Roblocks security" jackass know the names, faces, and government IDs of the people trying to report them.
 
People need to calm their tits about the age verification thing.
It is a logical conclusion when it comes to creating age-exclusive spaces.
If we're talking about ID verification specifically, then sorry but I'd have to disagree. Parents have unlimited tools at their disposal to stop kids from accessing content they don't want them to see and people they don't want them to talk to, such as parental controls on PCs and smartphones for the blocking of downloading apps or browser use, to kid-targeted devices like Bark Phones that have a very limited selection of apps and no internet access, or just simply giving your child a flip phone and not letting them use a PC unless under direct supervision. The only reason governments are selling the idea that self-reporting ages is not enough is because parents are not doing their job of supervising their kids, and allowing them to create accounts while lying about their age.

I've noticed a couple of states drafting laws regarding social media where if the account is under 18, the visibility of your account and any communication features must be turned off by default. My ideal system would be that when you create an account and set the user age as under 18, you are also required to fill in a "parental settings password" that allows only the parent to access user settings and expand or restrict the level of communication as they see fit. You could have parents set a whitelist of trusted users they allow their kids to interact with, and they could also create a blacklist of "forbidden terms" to block content that they don't want their kids to see. None of this would require ID verification of accounts nor government blacklists of what is considered "kid appropriate" or not. I have no other explanation for those kinds of practices besides the intentional assault of freedom of speech and privacy by government powers.
 
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It's gonna be alright guys. The Oracle is never right.
Given that the UK and the EU actually got full force real ID Internet on the last month (and it was apparently normalized), I won't bet on "nothing happens" unless if it faces legitimately powerful opposition beyond some internet talking heads.

You'll just see a single senator bitching it right now, but sooner or later you'll see it pass completely unopposed within the span of a day or two. Remember that the payment processors in the UK and EU conveniently clamped down indie porn and horror games on both Steam and Itch.io (in addition to Tensor.art) a week prior to clamping down the internet themselves inside their own soil, the former which I suspect is a distraction to divert people away from the Online Safety Act(s). And then exactly a month later after the first Steam Incident hit they exposed Roblox as an actual pedofarm (so anyone who bitches about the KOSA will be associated and shamed as pedophiles). It's very clear that something is going on and it's not going to be a "nothingburgers" situation this time.
 
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If we're talking about ID verification specifically, then sorry but I'd have to disagree. Parents have unlimited tools at their disposal to stop kids from accessing content they don't want them to see and people they don't want them to talk to, such as parental controls on PCs and smartphones for the blocking of downloading apps or browser use, to kid-targeted devices like Bark Phones that have a very limited selection of apps and no internet access, or just simply giving your child a flip phone and not letting them use a PC unless under direct supervision. The only reason governments are selling the idea that self-reporting ages is not enough is because parents are not doing their job of supervising their kids, and allowing them to create accounts while lying about their age.

I've noticed a couple of states drafting laws regarding social media where if the account is under 18, the visibility of your account and any communication features must be turned off by default. My ideal system would be that when you create an account and set the user age as under 18, you are also required to fill in a "parental settings password" that allows only the parent to access user settings and expand or restrict the level of communication as they see fit. You could have parents set a whitelist of trusted users they allow their kids to interact with, and they could also create a blacklist of "forbidden terms" to block content that they don't want their kids to see. None of this would require ID verification of accounts nor government blacklists of what is considered "kid appropriate" or not. I have no other explanation for those kinds of practices besides the intentional assault of freedom of speech and privacy by government powers.
Yeah but the problem is you give people to much credit to use common sense. They don't. Alot of people are fucking retarded when it comes to technology or their own damn kids. Instead of parenting their kid's they would rather bitch about violent video games or social media. It's their own fault the crotch goblin got unrestricted internet access and they make every one else suffer for the fact they refuse to close their fucking legs. In an ideal world this solution of yours would work but this is not an ideal world. The only solution besides punishing roblox and predators is also punishing the parents who didn't do shit or care to do shit.
 
The latter is the cause for the former. Historically, when the heat was on, Roblox has demonstrated in the past that they'll step in to perform the bare minimum amount of oversight for the sake of their public image, and stop giving a shit the nanosecond eyes are off of them. There's not a doubt in my mind it goes beyond that and developers become actively antagonistic towards whatever systems they say they're implementing after any given incident. I'd bet my bottom dollar they've always worked to cripple their tools just enough to the point they don't function but can still claim they're in place.

When people build a business or online platform, and people they never thought about start abusing it in ways they didn't imagine, they take significant steps to fix it. As an example, the first Black Ops game had custom user icons. Obviously, the developers really didn't think about how many people would make dick-swastikas and KKK lynchings, because the first iteration was largely unmoderated. The second iteration was moderated, but it was still too hard to control. Finally, they just scrapped the feature.

If a normal person knows pedos are widely abusing his online platform to groom kids, normal people are horrified and disgusted by pedos and care about kids' safety, so they take aggressive action to keep the pedos out. That's what I believe Club Penguin did. If they just do something perfunctory to get the media to go away, they're not just more concerned with profits than kids. They're in on it. No normal person is ambivalent about pedos soliciting kids on their platforms in their online kid-themed sex dungeons. Only other pedos and pedo-adjacent coomers are fine with that.

The only solution besides punishing roblox and predators is also punishing the parents who didn't do shit or care to do shit.

Wait, you have a problem with punishing predators?

If we're talking about ID verification specifically, then sorry but I'd have to disagree. Parents have unlimited tools at their disposal to stop kids from accessing content they don't want them to see and people they don't want them to talk to, such as parental controls on PCs and smartphones for the blocking of downloading apps or browser use, to kid-targeted devices like Bark Phones that have a very limited selection of apps and no internet access, or just simply giving your child a flip phone and not letting them use a PC unless under direct supervision. The only reason governments are selling the idea that self-reporting ages is not enough is because parents are not doing their job of supervising their kids, and allowing them to create accounts while lying about their age.

The public internet turns 30 years old next year. If "just expect parents to be vigilant enough to stop corporations from deliberately targeting their kids with products engineered to surreptitiously connect them to pedophiles" was a viable solution, we wouldn't be having this discussion. It's as fruitless as trying to build platform security on "just hope people will use strong passwords."
 
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TPTB will keep winning in perpetuity because plebs like us never do what needs to be done.
Thank you reverse oracle.
Real old heads will remember when Fleskjherta got banned in 2008 for making a model with breasts.
Nowadays you will find clothing accessories in the catalogue with hyperrealistic breasts and asses despite the TOS clearly stating that those things are not allowed.
 
Real old heads will remember when Fleskjherta got banned in 2008 for making a model with breasts. If anything I remember the site being excessively moderated in the time of Shedletsky. People would e-date but I got a lot of different circles on the site and never once got the impression I was talking to an adult or was being goaded into a sexual conversation.
Fleskjherta made me laugh a lot when I was a little kid. I remember ODing also being a lot more shamed, and games having ODer reputations where people in the comments would call it out even if the comments consisted hundred of Builderman told me how to get 9999999999999 Robux spams. Sure there were games that were ODer hugboxes, but other than that, in any other game, people would spam ODer at them or constantly go ew until the ODers left.

Even if I didn't play roblox for long as a kid, I am surprised how much the avatars have changed.
 
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Are you fucking retarded? When the fuck did I ever say anything about not punishing predators?
Seems like you're trying to direct people's anger away from "roblox and the predators" and toward the parents, especially since your most vicious, hateful language is reserved for parents and their young kids, oh, I'm sorry, "crotch-droppings." If you're trying to say that roblox, the predators, and the parents all deserve equal blame, you're not communicating that well.
 
It's gonna be alright guys. The Oracle is never right.
Tell that to the UK. Opposition to the Online Safety Act is basically dead now.

I agree that we need to keep an eye on the legislation and make sure it is tailored specifically for the purpose and does not over-reach.
If you oppose whatever he government comes up with in any way, you will be branded a pedophile. End of story. There is absolutely no stopping the final and permanent death of online privacy.

Given that the UK and the EU actually got full force real ID Internet on the last month (and it was apparently normalized), I won't bet on "nothing happens" unless if it faces legitimately powerful opposition beyond some internet talking heads.

You'll just see a single senator bitching it right now, but sooner or later you'll see it pass completely unopposed within the span of a day or two. Remember that the payment processors in the UK and EU conveniently clamped down indie porn and horror games on both Steam and Itch.io (in addition to Tensor.art) a week prior to clamping down the internet themselves inside their own soil, the former which I suspect is a distraction to divert people away from the Online Safety Act(s). And then exactly a month later after the first Steam Incident hit they exposed Roblox as an actual pedofarm (so anyone who bitches about the KOSA will be associated and shamed as pedophiles). It's very clear that something is going on and it's not going to be a "nothingburgers" situation this time.
tl;dr: we're all gonna die :D

Say goodbye to this website in a couple months. Once this passes, it's completely over for all of us. 1984 was one of the most prophetic works in history.
 
If "just expect parents to be vigilant enough to stop corporations from deliberately targeting their kids with products engineered to surreptitiously connect them to pedophiles" was a viable solution, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
I explained in my second paragraph that platforms like Roblox SHOULD have extra legal rules to give parents more control over what their kid sees and who they talk to. That solution is:

1. Accounts under 18 must have all communication features turned off by default, and all content is blacklisted by default.
2. Accounts under 18 must have a "parental settings password" created for them that allows only the parent to control settings on who the account is visible to, who the account holder can see/communicate with, and what content the account can see. This includes having a blacklist and whitelist system that parents have full control over for allowed/restricted terms.

The main thing that needs to change is that for kids, all communication and media exposure on a platform should be opt-in by the parents instead of opt-out. You don't need ID verification or government blacklists to do that.
 
Seems like you're trying to direct people's anger away from "roblox and the predators" and toward the parents, especially since your most vicious, hateful language is reserved for parents and their young kids, oh, I'm sorry, "crotch-droppings." If you're trying to say that roblox, the predators, and the parents all deserve equal blame, you're not communicating that well.
You fucking mush mouth retard. I said BESIDES punishing roblox and predators you should also be punishing parents who let their kids have free reign on the internet. Parents are part of the problem here because they should be parenting their kids and monitoring what the hell they're doing on the computer or on phones. Computers and phones have parental control options built in and many online platforms also have parental control options built in that they can use. You are a fucking mongoloid trying to attack an argument nobody ever said and you are trying to put words in peoples mouths. That's White Karen energy right there. Do you perhaps work for Collective Shout? Are you really some fat bitch in disguise? Mother fucker learn to read.
 
Tell that to the UK. Opposition to the Online Safety Act is basically dead now.


If you oppose whatever he government comes up with in any way, you will be branded a pedophile. End of story. There is absolutely no stopping the final and permanent death of online privacy.


tl;dr: we're all gonna die :D

Say goodbye to this website in a couple months. Once this passes, it's completely over for all of us. 1984 was one of the most prophetic works in history.
You cheer me up little buddy.

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Now say the same thing only this time it comes after a nuclear exchange and the Chinese build killer robots. Id like that taken off my fear list.
 
The only reason governments are selling the idea that self-reporting ages is not enough is because parents are not doing their job of supervising their kids, and allowing them to create accounts while lying about their age.
In a perfect world there would be no need for age verification, but in this world, I would not mind to see it but SOLELY for sites dedicated to kids. Adults have no need for it because they have no business being on kids' sites in the first place. As for kids being on adult sites, THAT should be up to parents to prevent.

As for any adults like site staff who have any interaction with kids, they should have the same background checks as teachers and other adult childcare professionals and be mandatory reporters, that is, they see anything funny and don't report it, they get criminally prosecuted.
 
they need to do what TF2 did and make it so you can't see or use chat if you haven't paid for something. Maybe some basic emotes but that's it. Then making the purchase of robux require an ID. This requires a predator to show their ID and pay at least 5 bucks for each burner account to even begin to try and go after kids.
Actually this is a pretty good idea. Thats sort-of how it was back in the day with “Guests”. And it was doing fine. What changed? Did roblox feel like they would lose potential players with this model?
 
Doubtful. There is unfortunately no criminal liability on Roblox's part, even though in a sane world there should be. As far as I am aware the only legal consequences they face are from civil suits (which are ongoing as we speak) and Roblox, like many other amoral companies, takes the position that it's cheaper to pay settlements than to not be a piece of shit.

They won't say that. They will cite their rules on """platform safety.""" They could even lie and just make up shit like they did with Ruben Sim. It's not like anyone they sue has the money to continue litigation to the phase where a judge or jury tries the allegations (and finds them untrue).
You are right. Nothing ever happ...
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Now I agree that the company cannot go to jail. But the government digging through communications and files is going to be bad news for some individuals. It has just begun.
 
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