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ToroidalBoat said:
Why did George Lucas give the rights to Star Wars to Di$ney anyway?

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The most likely explanation is some combination of:
(1)The desire to keep the brand alive in the light of him not getting any younger, Internet hating him, and Disney having a relatively decent reputation back then.
(2)Backroom intrigue involving Kennedy. In all likelyhood Lucas was convinced that he would be allowed to retain creative input, while offloading all the drudgework of running the franchise on others. But was backstabbed basically right away.
(3)Desire to stroke his ego by getting the biggest payment a single man ever got for a franchise.
 
FatR said:
The most likely explanation is some combination of:
(1)The desire to keep the brand alive in the light of him not getting any younger, Internet hating him, and Disney having a relatively decent reputation back then.
(2)Backroom intrigue involving Kennedy. In all likelyhood Lucas was convinced that he would be allowed to retain creative input, while offloading all the drudgework of running the franchise on others. But was backstabbed basically right away.
(3)Desire to stroke his ego by getting the biggest payment a single man ever got for a franchise.
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I don't think he gave a toss about internet nerds.

I think the biggest driving factors were money and prestige.
As you said, I think Lucas knew he wasn't getting any younger. he had run Lucasfilm as a dictator because he trusted his own judgement, but knew that wasn't going to be viable in the future for his replacement. making star wars movies required enomorous investiments of his own money in the project, something that wouldn't be an option in the future. Lucasfilm needed a big studio to help them operate.
He picked Disney because they had the funds and their integration with Marvel showed that Disney could take an outside property and let it maintain its own identity under their aegis. Which was important, because that was what Lucas viewed as his legacy. Hence him being pissed enough at Disney to let the mask drop in that one interview.

As a secondary concern, as you mention, I think a combination of Iger and Kennedy wormtongued him "Oh it'll be great George. We'll take your treatments for the sequels, pay you for them, and run with it. It'll be like you're making the movie, except you don't have to do any actual work" then we got what we got.

Lucas sided with the Iger against Peltz because Peltz wanted to sell Lucasfilm to the highest bidder, and Lucas didn't want that. Better the devil you know than the Chinese studio you don't.
 
Ghostse said:
Lucas sided with the Iger against Peltz because Peltz wanted to sell Lucasfilm to the highest bidder, and Lucas didn't want that. Better the devil you know than the Chinese studio you don't.
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And the Chinese studio would have done a better job too. A random wuxia movie is at least physically similar to a Prequel fight.
 
I know Lucas never much cared for the EU, but he should have put Leland Chee permanently in charge as Canon Comissar, so he could reject Abram's and Johnson's retardery.

For all of its quirks, the EU kept Star Wars alive and flourishing between films.
 
Ghostse said:
He picked Disney because they had the funds and their integration with Marvel showed that Disney could take an outside property and let it maintain its own identity under their aegis. Which was important, because that was what Lucas viewed as his legacy. Hence him being pissed enough at Disney to let the mask drop in that one interview.
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keep in mind too he'd been balls deep with the mouse since the 80s and everybody had been happy
 
Gorton Colu said:
I know Lucas never much cared for the EU, but he should have put Leland Chee permanently in charge as Canon Comissar, so he could reject Abram's and Johnson's retardery.

For all of its quirks, the EU kept Star Wars alive and flourishing between films.
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Even if he did, Disney would've fired Chee the moment he and JJ came into conflict. Lucas thought Disney money would keep the people in Lucasfilm employed, only for Disney to dismember its video game wing LucasArts, and fire a lot of talented people.
 
wholetthegodsout said:
I just realized that Mando and grogu is out May next year and we havent even got a real trailer yet. Isn't this odd? And they announced the Ryan Gosling movie that comes out a year afterwards already. Does disney still have faith in Mando?
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I think Disney is realizing that Pedro Pascal isn't going to draw in an audience so they're worried about advertising another Pedro movie.
 
Mr. Racewar1488 said:
I think Disney is realizing that Pedro Pascal isn't going to draw in an audience so they're worried about advertising another Pedro movie.
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Pedro Pascal fatigue aside, Star Wars just isn't a profitable brand anymore. Mando fever was a shot of adrenaline that temporarily kept the franchise alive but even that's starting to wane now that they're so oversaturated. I don't think it's a coincidence that there hasn't been a Star Wars movie since 2019. They want to avoid the reality that the next thing they put out is going to outright underperform.
 
Gondolindrim said:
Pedro Pascal fatigue aside, Star Wars just isn't a profitable brand anymore. Mando fever was a shot of adrenaline that temporarily kept the franchise alive but even that's starting to wane now that they're so oversaturated. I don't think it's a coincidence that there hasn't been a Star Wars movie since 2019. They want to avoid the reality that the next thing they put out is going to outright underperform.
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What are you talking about? Andor Season 2 totally set new records and saved Star Wars. Gallons of abused wife jizz was spilled.


Mr. Racewar1488 said:
Have you forgotten #NeilNation?! There were literally a dozen youtubers pushing that hashtag. Skeleton Crew was the BEST Star Wars show...since the last one.
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I stan Babu Frik.
 
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