📚 Megathread The Pooner Zoo - A thread for collecting wild Pooners and posting OC Pooners, and anything Pooner related

[Chandelier]

In an event for a lesbian relationship, discourse emerged over the event not allowing men. Trans women were allowed, of course, because they're 100% women, but trans men were not. The majority of those gnashing their teeth were pooner fujos angry that they're being excluded from a fan event that they dominate. Observe the cognitive dissonance below. They are lucky trans women avoid the written word and stick to emulators and mods, or else they'd go the way of r/actuallesbians. Link / Archive.

Dr. Bai there considers herself a progressive feminist, anti TERF and SWERF, you name it. She's got problems with the fact her ideology demands that FTMs be treated as men.

You fought so hard just to have males be included - just not FTMs. You have to love it.

She references "Stone Butch Blues", to no avail. She doesn't want to admit that transmen are real men with their vaginas and female anatomy.

Saying men can't be lesbians is TERF logic, even when you want FTMs to be treated as gay men:

You will say a man is a lesbian if he identifies as a woman, though.

Squishy Sexual Ethics there is known to have beef with the Kweens, mostly for saying Annette for Castlevania "is black enough for you."

This is just funny to read. They wonder how they can fetishize "gay men as men" yet even their progshit allies don't see them as men. The event included transwomen, who don't normally write fanfic, but trans men were miffed. This all started because the event did not allow rape. FTM fujos, who didn't even ship them, then openly said they liked gay ships because they could enjoy rape. Cool.

Trans masc is still considered under the trans umbrella, you're just a woman who likes identifying WITH men vs saying you are one. It doesn't really make a huge difference.

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It's all about the definitions, baby:

Would it shock you to discover this is a Troon, married to a woman, who wants to be "bred"?

"Lesbians are non men loving non men"
"Excuse me that's bigoted!"


The same people argue that the fujo to ftm pipeline doesn't exist. Fascinating to see them attack each other on their core principles. Lesbians are WOMEN loving WOMEN. Definitions mean something. Note how the MTF immediately butted in to declare he was a lesbian and the OP didn't buy it. Subtle, but there.

 

[Coo Coo Bird]

OK, Kiwis, I need your help determining whether or not this is a pooner or just a morbidly obese fag/gender blob. She honestly looks like PPP.

I was at the Wisconsin State Fair today and every year, this group called the Kids from Wisconsin performs a show choir revue. Kids 15-20 are chosen every year from all across the state. The showcase was phenomenal but one pooner was such an eyesore. She stood out instantly from her bio, conspicuously using "they/them" pronouns. Then she got on stage and could barely do the dances because of how fat she was. She had boobs that could be man boobs but I've seen really fat girls with titties like that. Her hips seemed wider than her shoulders.
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But the real confounding factor was that her voice didn't sound like a frog voice. Here's a video of her singing:
Pooner Kids from Wisconsin Singing Joey Theucks.mp4

So, what's your verdict?

There's an article from 2016 that has him still going by Joey:
Luxemburg-Casco High School presents 'The King and I' (Archive)

An additional 13 children from the Luxemburg-Casco Intermediate School star as the King’s children and include Caroline VanDrisse, Megan Salentine, Katherine McAdaragh, Hailey DeGrave, Joey Thuecks, Savannah Jandrin, Autumn Flynn, Brendan Scheidt, Mason Michiels, Parker Gille, Ava Doperalski, Caleb Salentine and Jillian Jorgensen as Princess Ying Yaowalak.

Luxemburg-Casco Intermediate School serves grades 3-6, making him 11 at the oldest. While there are some kids trooned out at that age, it's unusual.

His Instagram doesn't mention anything about being transmasc, even though pooners will shout that kind of thing from the rooftops:

He crossdressed on Halloween, but clearly saw it as doing drag:

What cinches it for me is that he's just not short enough to be a pooner. When he stands next to women it's obvious he's a guy:


I think you're thrown off by the fact that in the wild, all the enbies you encounter are usually girls. However, in a pozzed environment like the theater, acting as faggy as possible is a good way to be popular. Kids who don't have any pronouns or weird sexualities are probably bullied. "You said you were 'Just normal I guess' when we asked for your pronouns? I should kick your ass for being a little straggot, Kevin."

Also I can't believe he got cast as Donkey and not Shrek in his high school's pronduction of Shrek: the Musical.

“It’s very fun to bring Shrek to life because he’s a character that people like, look to, and they relate to. And it’s really good to be able to personify that role and give it to little kids who aren’t familiar with theater and make them interested in it,” said Jordan Theys, who acted as the great green giant himself (Shrek).

Joey Thuecks, who got to play the iconic role of Donkey, agreed. “It’s so awesome playing Donkey because when we did the intermediate school performance, as soon as I stepped out on stage, you could just hear the kids yelling, ‘Oh my gosh, it’s Donkey!’ It was so cool.”

Luxemburg-Casco HS goes green in ‘Shrek the Musical’

Just look at the guy, can't you hear him saying "It's all ogre"?

 

[Wendy Wheelchair]

I think you've convinced me that it's a guy. But I'm gonna comment on some points

There's an article from 2016 that has him still going by Joey:
Luxemburg-Casco High School presents 'The King and I' (Archive)
Luxemburg-Casco Intermediate School serves grades 3-6, making him 11 at the oldest. While there are some kids trooned out at that age, it's unusual.

I get why that might be a case for him being a man, but that's the same year that transhausen by proxy kid was on the cover of National Geographic. A lot of people think this trans stuff only started around that time, but I saw it on college campuses since the late 2000's.

His Instagram doesn't mention anything about being transmasc, even though pooners will shout that kind of thing from the rooftops:

I think this is probably the biggest giveaway. I did know a few FtMs in college and except for one fat sheboon with huge tits who unironically called herself a "Lesbiman", the other ones had the main goal of not being clocked. Tumblr rotted Gen Z's brain and made most trannies not even want to try and pass.

I guess that picture of him wearing just a sports bra with high-waisted stretch pants pushed me more towards woman since that just screams "obese woman" to me.

I think you're thrown off by the fact that in the wild, all the enbies you encounter are usually girls. However, in a pozzed environment like the theater, acting as faggy as possible is a good way to be popular. Kids who don't have any pronouns or weird sexualities are probably bullied. "You said you were 'Just normal I guess' when we asked for your pronouns? I should kick your ass for being a little straggot, Kevin."

As a gay guy, it's really weird and sad to me watching being gay go from a point of bonding between gay men who had to grow up in the closet to it now being only valued insomuch as it can get you attention and oppression points. And honestly, since 2015 or so, the "LGBT+" movement has demonized gay men since we're statistically the largest group (people who call themselves lesbians are rarer than gay men and even half of those will regularly have sex with men and stop identifying as a lesbian at some point in time). At that point, all political activist gays I knew (and trust me, they're NOT the majority of gays; most gay guys don't really care that much) stopped identifying as gay and start identifying as "queer".

So yeah, this gay guy distancing himself from being a "cis white gay" (search Twitter for that phrase and you'll find a goldmine of tranny cringe) makes sense with the they/them rather than being a female BPD enby.

 

[Tread Miller]

"Lesbians are non men loving non men"
"Excuse me that's bigoted!"

@Relinquish has informed me that "Finch" has taken notice of your post:

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Some others also mentioned in the post chime in:

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And "@MugiWaraKunst" apologizes for having "triggered this," which I assume means starting the initial discussion:

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[scathefire]

@Relinquish has informed me that "Finch" has taken notice of your post:
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And "@MugiWaraKunst" apologizes for having "triggered this," which I assume means starting the initial discussion:
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Posting those conversations wasn't an intention to dox you guys or whatever the fuck, it's just showcasing an inane argument that took place on xitter for the people here to laugh at. It's the equivalent of that Simpsons monkey fight meme.

 

[Colress]

These fujo fucks said something stupid on the internet and now need to live with it.

 

[Thursday]

I feel like I'm having a stroke trying to understand all this vomit inducing terminology.

But either way it's proof you can never satisfy these people, they make up new rules everyday that even their own people don't agree with, how the hell do they expect normies to know the comprehensive history of their goalpost moving shenanigans?

 

[Walnut Pound Cake]

For any of the retards from the argument reading here: shit like this is peaking normies every day, keep it up. Also: sneed.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

“Trans men’s relationship to lesbianism is a complex one” no it isn’t, not if you’re sane. If you’re a man, you shouldn’t feel excluded from women’s events. If you do, clearly you don’t believe you’re a man.

This keeps happening with pooners. As soon as masculinity gets a bit too real for them, they try to walk it back. It’s just a LARP that got out of hand.

@Relinquish has informed me that "Finch" has taken notice of your post:

That’s some real manly crytyping there, big guy.

 

[Chandelier]

@Relinquish has informed me that "Finch" has taken notice of your post:
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Oh this is fucking brilliant. It means someone told them they were on the thread or they were actively scrolling it. Either way, posting about how trans men getting angry about being excluded from women's events because they're seen as men and treated as them means they want to have their cake and eat it, too.

Also, hello Dr. Bai, you're still a pedo promoting bitch who spends her time attacking TERFs, so don't act defensive when someone takes your beliefs to their logical conclusion, which ThatOneQueen did.

I don't have beef with ThatOneQueen or caitviscent even if they are black supremacists. I follow them for their sane anti fujo takes. I know they dislike TERFs. If anyone deserves to get phone booked it's the shotacons.

I feel so honoured. Don't ever visit the fanfic horrors thread, Finch. You'll need brand new meds and a new bed pan for the shit I say.

And if ThatOneQueen is reading this: Arcane thread is for you. A lot of the tea I got was from your circles, thanks.

Trans men’s relationship to lesbianism is a complex one” no it isn’t, not if you’re sane. If you’re a man, you shouldn’t feel excluded from women’s events. If you do, clearly you don’t believe you’re a man.

Pretty much it. All of those getting angry at that event were genderqueer fujos who WANT to believe they're men yet are angry they're excluded. Dr. Bai there got pushback because she said that was a TERF thing when suggesting trans men aren't men is TERFy.

 

[Vinluv Handesbukia]

Pooners are like South Asians where they were once seen as the "respectable" and "civilized" alternatives to their MtF/Arabic counterparts. Until the internet gave them a giant megaphone and then they started kvetching like there was no tomorrow,and then everyone slowly but surely realize that they were somehow even worse one the Pooners/South Asians torn down their representatives to the western world (Buck Angel/Apu) who's legacies they have skirted on for so long.

 

[Hamplanet Fitness]

Lil dood whines that a gay men's subreddit doesn't like her kind:

 

[Izdaja Slika]

Where the fuck are these pooners hanging out where all the gay guys are transphobic? Because I want to visit.

Of course, what they really mean is 'gay guys don't want to have sex with me'. Which I guess is transphobia too, because every conceivable action is transphobia.

 

[Mad_Dog]

Pooner complains about gay men rejecting her on a sluttier-than-Grindr sex app, says she craves the affirmation of gay men being attracted to her. I foresee many more rejections in her future.

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Pooners wanting to fuck gay men is the current year equivalent of Eve craving the forbidden fruit.
Women. Women never change.

This one really likes calling herself a faggot.

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Oy Vey! Why would I sign up to be a victim when we're in the era of history that most highly praises victimhood?!

 

[Hamplanet Fitness]

Pooner writes a dissertation about yaoi and accuses her fellow women (of the non-trans-identified variety) of being homophobic even though she's the one skinwalking a gay man.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Pooner writes a dissertation about yaoi and accuses her fellow women (of the non-trans-identified variety) of being homophobic even though she's the one skinwalking a gay man.

This is her "account for learning English" and she's this deep in Twitter fandom discourse?

That's pretty impressive, but what a huge waste of mental energy. Ethical consumption of yaoi is why we can't have cold fusion.

 

[Paper Machete]

The thing I love about the yaoi discourse like this is the "gay men" in question having issues with it are invariably just girls with pronouns in bio who think they're speshul and not like other fujos because they're a Real Man.

Yaoi fandom shipfic bull is entirely a shut-in female niche and the only times gay men are bothered is when fujos or shippers go out of their way to bother them. Social media making fandom more mainstream and able to interact outside their sphere has only ever been a mistake...I mean they'd still be fucking weird but they'd own being in it for the love of the game and fling shit at each other and not whatever the fuck is going on now.

 

[Hum Humina]

The thing I love about the yaoi discourse like this is the "gay men" in question having issues with it are invariably just girls with pronouns in bio who think they're speshul and not like other fujos because they're a Real Man.

Yaoi fandom shipfic bull is entirely a shut-in female niche and the only times gay men are bothered is when fujos or shippers go out of their way to bother them. Social media making fandom more mainstream and able to interact outside their sphere has only ever been a mistake...I mean they'd still be fucking weird but they'd own being in it for the love of the game and fling shit at each other and not whatever the fuck is going on now.

Every single goddamn time I've seen a "gay man" complain about fujos fetishizing gay men in the wild, it's been a pooner. (The only actual gay guys I've heard talk about m/m fanfic were the rare actual dudes who wrote it, the ones laughing their asses off at it, and the ones drunkenly confessing that, sometimes, they went looking for specific pairings to cheer themselves up when they were terminally single.)

It's as much of a tell that someone's a NLTOG as having faggot in their user name.

 

[Mellorine]

The only gay men I know of involved with anything yaoi adjacent are pulp writers who write formula romance with pretty male ingenues in place of pretty maiden ingenues (or in one case twee fantasy full of tired gay jokes) who then try to promote their works as being authentically written by authentic homos. Only to get drowned out by a flood of pooners who like to add their own shlick works to lists of "gay novels written by actual gay men."

 

[Chandelier]

This debate gave me a migraine. Link / Archive

"Masc is the masculine identity"
Aka you abide by sex stereotypes while trying to smash the gender binary.


Here's Sydney. Take a guess what her page is like.

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"I feel so comfortable in my body"


That's one helluva hairy and gaped asshole.

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