Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread - Gorl Tawk's very own DMZ (De-Moidified Zone)

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A guy I was friends with online was feeling down so I asked if he wanted to talk about it, he said "yeah the dating scene in the US sucks" and I asked why, he said "women in the US are savages." After asking him to elaborate he said "haven't you seen the videos of them? the metoo movement and such"
I asked him if he was serious and he was like "yeah it started off as a noble cause" and then went on about it being used for false rape accusations and ruining guys lives, and now guys his age are too scared to approach women.

It disgusts me that moids can pretend to be polite and decent for so long while actually thinking like this, why do they decide to rope women in to friendships and then reveal themselves as nasty misogynists after years of time invested into a friendship. I'm just glad we weren't particularly close friends, but I'm never going to be making a male friend again.

 

[Mamimi]

I think it's less socialization, and more fear that he may hurt her if she's rude. These various variations of niggers have no place in polite society.

I remember being a preteen and my mom telling me not to be rude to catcalling men because the only thing more dangerous than a man who's angry with you, is one who's angry with you and also wants to have sex with you.

 

[crazedaze]

and now guys his age are too scared to approach women.

Only the terminally online idiots who know they'd be laughed out of the room Men in general are definitely not afraid of approaching women, on the sidewalk, from their car, at their place of employment...

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

If a woman cheats on a guy the guy whines about it the rest of his life and uses it as an excuse to abuse future partners or develop weird fetishes.

Look at the comment section of any true crime video about a man who killed his girlfriend because she cheated. It's always full of men saying that women should know cheating pushes men to the brink of sanity, so if women get murdered for cheating, it's their fault. Same song and dance if a woman was murdered for rejecting a man's advances.

Basically, we should be available to have sex with any man who wants it, but we also have to be celibate for our current or future male partners. They dont see the obvious contradiction because they always put themselves in the murderer's shoes. Being cheated on or rejected hurts their fee fees, so murder is an acceptable action under those circumstances. They might not kill a woman (because they're afraid of the legal consequences), but they'll sympathize with a man who does.

(I am not saying cheating is fine, btw. I'm saying murder is an extreme response, and it's most frequently seen from the "rational" sex.)

It's mostly white women IMO. White women are unironically the most accepting demographic and it bites you in the ass.

As a white woman, if you refuse to be a doormat, you're automatically a Karen. It originally meant someone who harasses people who are just doing their jobs, but it's morphed into "any white woman who isn't perfectly agreeable all the time" or, in some cases, "any white woman over the age of 25." Fear of men does play a role, as people are saying, but so does fear of social rejection. Most white women who've learned not to care about the latter are older, so they're the ones who get called names most frequently.

 

[Troonage Daydream]

Those women only train carriages in Japan are starting to sound like a good idea.

Would be great in theory, but at this rate, the troons will scream and cry "transphobia" like they have with female-only gyms. Or any female-only space for that matter.

 

[Jack O'Lantern]

As a white woman, if you refuse to be a doormat, you're automatically a Karen. It originally meant someone who harasses people who are just doing their jobs, but it's morphed into "any white woman who isn't perfectly agreeable all the time" or, in some cases, "any white woman over the age of 25." Fear of men does play a role, as people are saying, but so does fear of social rejection. Most white women who've learned not to care about the latter are older, so they're the ones who get called names most frequently.

The majority of videos I've watched where someone is being a cunt to service staff or smashing up a shop/restaurant, etc., for whatever reason, the perpetrators were Black women and men.

It's not White women who are "Karens." It's Black people.

 

[ruckingfetard]

The majority of videos I've watched where someone is being a cunt to service staff or smashing up a shop/restaurant, etc., for whatever reason, the perpetrators were Black women and men.

It's not White women who are "Karens." It's Black people.

I worked in retail and customer service jobs for most of my young life, and it was always black people who kicked the most fuss and harassed workers. Without fail.

Spoiler: nignorance in customer service

When I was a receptionist one black woman spent the entire day calling over and over just to scream and call me names, just because one of the workers she was trying to get ahold of was busy.
And when I worked at a gas station I had a black old man stay there the entire day because the manager left for the day, and was huffing and puffing over 42 cents of gas that he wanted back because he misread the gas price billboard, and he was telling each and every person that walked in that they shouldnt get gas there.
Then at some retail job I had, a black guy literally chimped out because he wanted a pair of nike slides for the same price as a cheaper pair (that was an entirely different style and type than the ones he wanted) he started slamming that shit on the counter.
Another fun fact about that retail job, we hired a young black guy and he was being a perfect angel all day and sucking up to our white woman manager, but when our night manager came in (a black woman), he got super indignant and rude and would suck his teeth at her and eventually he walked out in the middle of training refusing to work. Niggers don't even like each other!

But that brings me to another rant. I am starting to think so many men belong in dangerous jobs where they work hard and suffer, because they clearly aren't compatible with any jobs here in society with air conditioning and body safety. So many of them hate to simply be told what to do, unless if it's by a male replacement for their bum ass dads. They always feel above working and serving people. This is why they are so attracted to get rich quick scams, they want to get in positions of power without working the way up. They aren't even able to keep up in college, and while I do have my grievances with the modern college experience, these retards even as GROWN ASS ADULTS hate to sit in classes and listen to instructors talk, and can't be bothered to do their homework. Why should they be anywhere in positions of authority? I think so many of these guys would just be happier in the mines. They can work, make money, and not have to answer anyone but their replacement fathers.

 

[tygressofaera]

Jewelry sperging, but there's a post going around from Reddit from a woman who got a $56 engagement ring. Her concern is not the cost but the durability of the materials. The ring is allegedly .925 silver and the stones are moissanite.

Assuming it's actually silver and not stainless steel with a 925 stamp on the inside, it's not appropriate for daily wear. You're going to be fighting tarnish for your entire life. Moissanite's fine and so cheap there's no reason to lie about it, so thats most likely real. But that silver is going to chip and scratch like nothing else. It would actually be better here if they lied about it being silver and actually gave her stainless steel. But even stainless steel is going to get scratched to hell and can't be resized.

Moids throwing a mantrum about golddigging whores and implying she wants a real diamond or $14,000 ring. A durable ring can be $550-700 in 14k gold to platinum if you’re looking at an aliexpress ring with moissanite. Maybe $800-1200 from a not-aliexpress moissanite ring. That's not breaking the bank. Do they only understand "you get what you pay for" when it's Taurus handguns vs S&W? Same principle.

 

[crazedaze]

Her concern is not the cost

why be with a man where you have to tamper down your own generosity and try to get him the cheapest gifts imaginable because you don't want to be the idiot spending hundreds on a man every year who's nickel and diming you over everything, including a damn engagement ring. "Oooh I'd love to get him this 300$ shirt, oh but yeah he wouldn't spend more than 30$ on my birthday so better just get him a ballpoint pen" fuck it single is better and I'll get my own shit

 

[Beteljuice]

Would be great in theory, but at this rate, the troons will scream and cry "transphobia" like they have with female-only gyms. Or any female-only space for that matter.
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Why can't they just make a troon only gym? That way they can work out safely without the hecking female oppression and be around their kin, since they love being a troon so much. Sadly this won't ever happen as being surrounded by by barely human looking malebeasts will be insufficient to make their girldicks hard, and denying a tranny his girlgasm is perfectly acceptable grounds for death threats and excommunication from society.

 

[crazedaze]

Gender of accountability and logic:
"Porn is a huge problem right now"
"BECAUSE OF WOMEN ON ONLYFANS"

Stahhhhhp men are so fucking stupid and allergic to introspection, I can't!!

 

[Steam Deck Verified]

why be with a man where you have to tamper down your own generosity and try to get him the cheapest gifts imaginable because you don't want to be the idiot spending hundreds on a man every year who's nickel and diming you over everything, including a damn engagement ring. "Oooh I'd love to get him this 300$ shirt, oh but yeah he wouldn't spend more than 30$ on my birthday so better just get him a ballpoint pen" fuck it single is better and I'll get my own shit

The "I would be happy with a ring pop and a courthouse wedding in pajamas unlike you greedy whores" pick-mes have done untold damage in terms of pressuring women to settle for less. This is a proposition that you'll be spending presumably the rest of your life picking up after this moid, cooking for him, entertaining him, upkeeping his social life and connections, possibly putting your body through pregnancy and birth and childrearing, taking care of him when he's sick, wiping his ass when he's old, and (in this day and age) doing all of this while working full time and splitting the bills?

And we're supposed to accept a fucking $40 Etsy ring? What happened to this being a show of value, a promise to provide? Can't these supposedly traditional HVM providers at least walk into a Zales and find something nice? Moids act like there is zero middle ground between a $15 "love is priceless" ring and a $34,000 showstopper that can be seen from space.

I had a few girl friends who gave into that because "the down payment on a house or fancy honeymoon matters more" (despite them ending up never leaving their apartment, and having a Disney honeymoon instead of touring Greece or whatever). All their "custom" rings from random online Chinese retailers broke within a year, every single one. Foreshadowing perhaps?

 

[12345]

I hate it here.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

Why can't they just make a troon only gym? That way they can work out safely without the hecking female oppression and be around their kin, since they love being a troon so much. Sadly this won't ever happen as being surrounded by by barely human looking malebeasts will be insufficient to make their girldicks hard, and denying a tranny his girlgasm is perfectly acceptable grounds for death threats and excommunication from society.

A troon-only gym would never survive because troons are allergic to exercise. They think their doughboy physiques make them pass as women, instead of looking like the out-of-shape men they are. As you correctly identified, the only reason they go to the gym is to ogle T&H women and make them unwilling participants in their LARP.

 

[Pickman's Modeling Agency]

I hate it here.
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Fucking femoids want to punish a man forever for a moment of indiscretion. Truly, we live in a nightmarish matriarchy.

 

[Argos]

I hate it

It's already hunting season for antlerless deer in Nova Scotia. Be a real shame if he was mistaken for one.

 

[ruckingfetard]

I think it's funny how people clown on Japan for not allowing mobile picture silencers or female-only trains, yet that sounds like one of the only solutions to the problem. Because when we tell men to teach them not to be rapist animals, they have a fit. Now sure, Japan men are on a different level of degeneracy, and yet when we look back to the states Uber announces they will allow you to pick a female driver and what happens again? men throwing fits in twitter comments.
If teaching boys and men not to be rape pigs is not an option, and enforcing female-only spaces is not an option, then what option is there left?

And to be clear I think the "teach men not to rape" stuff can be very useless and condescending, especially since many "male feminists" SHOULD know better due to the bullshit they spout yet they continue to violate boundaries. I think the broader message here is that nothing will ever work for men because they refuse to acknowledge the problem or hold each other accountable.

 

[Jellie Opal]

OP: I witnessed child abuse while at [retail job] what should I do?
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Comments all very grounded and real right up until someone says that women and children get abused and then some guy just HAS to chime in with "WHAT ABOUT MEN "

Bitch, I don't care.

Men who "almost" commit suicide (ESPECIALLY when it would have been a woman's "fault") love trotting it out like a tired old pony named Miss Ogyny. They love hamming it up and getting hysterical about the fact that they ALMOST DIED because some EVIL BITCH wouldn't fuck him/carry his kids/bend to his will...but THEY CARRIED ON LIKE REAL MEN and DIDN'T LET HER WIN!!!

If a man ever threatens suicide because you won't do something for or to him, tell him to cut deep.

That's right. Even in many first world countries, girls and women are discouraged, either by religion or the secular version of it ("trad-wife", "sugar-baby", "sex work and OnlyFans") from pursuing a real education and learning skills that would carry them much farther than looks could.

It's frustrating to watch women and girls throw these freedoms away with both hands because they thought they found "one if the good ones". And apparently locking down a "good one" means forfeiting any semblance of being self sufficient.

Women have to develop a particular kind of cognitive dissonance in order to immerse themselves into the "trad wife"/prostitute lifestyle. A lot of women who survived prostitution mention developing a kind of "mask" that they can "put on" when they worked. That's why so many of them will go by different names when working: it somewhat depersonalizes the actions that they experience. But ~the body keeps the score~ and we are inseparable from our bodies, so we all know, in the end, that what our body experiences is what we also, cognitively, despite the blockages, also experience.

I think the "trad wife" phenomenon requires a similar mindset. When I say "trad wife" here, I'm talking about the kind of relationship where a woman is fully absorbed into her family unit without any autonomy inside or outside of it and has no expression of independence and no support for her agency within her family. If they publicize their lives via social media in order to add to the trad wife trend, I think that also adds a layer of performativity to it, of course, which also requires a sort of depersonalization. They're playing a part.

A lot of former trad wives who are vocal about their experiences all sing the same song: they were expected to do literally everything in their marriages and childrearing, and they were subjected to unfair and inequal treatment. Their husbands would not contribute to the household chores and fully expected them to complete them by themselves, or with the children's help, no matter how young the children were. Their husbands sometimes have jobs; others have endless opportunities and side hustles or are trust fund babies. They're expected to maintain their looks to an unreasonable degree and to the expense of their health. Disturbingly, a few of them mention how they were pressured into sex by their husbands shortly after they gave birth. (Side note: I think men who engage in the trad wife lifestyle also have a breeding fetish.)

I think of this video sometimes that was reposted on a "van life" type account with a title like "MOM FREAKS OUT OVER SPILL ." There are so many moments posted online that I think solidify the trad wife dilemma, and this is one of them. The trad wife lifestyle breeds (pun somewhat intended) familial entitlement. It reminds me of this quote from Bonnie Burstow:

“Often father and daughter look down on mother (woman) together. They exchange meaningful glances when she misses a point. They agree that she is not bright as they are, cannot reason as they do. This collusion does not save the daughter from the mother’s fate.” - Radical Feminist Therapy: Working in the Context of Violence (1992)​

Spoiler: CONT'D

Women are raised to look down on other women and themselves in various degrees, and then they reproduce this negative dynamic in their families. And then their daughters grow up and are unprepared to deal with this arrangement and must learn firsthand what it means to be disrespected in your own home. How many times have we seen "moms be like: no one helps me in this house!!!" as a meme?

The main reason marriage and prostitution are so often compared are because they are both rooted in sexploitation. Women are objectified in both frameworks at the benefit of the male. Marriage still to this day is a financial arrangement, even if love and romance are actually the motivating factors behind the union. In many places, among many couples, marriage still primarily benefits men and lowers women.

A lot of it stems from fantasy, too. Everything in the world has always had a visual aesthetic (and marketable one, too), but today we are globalized and digitized, so we are constantly seeing the trad wife as an algorithmic aesthetic goal. The trad wife is effortlessly beautiful (with the right products bought with her husband's money ), and she has a closet full of sexy yet tasteful clothes in which she will raise her children in, with no messes ever staining her gingham off-shoulder gown with lacy apron. I'm being a silly goose here, but you get what I'm saying about this weird country/rural fetish with a sexualized 1940s-50s wardrobe. Women in the trad wife trend will put on full faces of makeup while staying at home with their kids. It's part of the objectification thing, as well as our twisted version of "self-care" for women, which is to purposely guide them back into performing femininity.

We do see performative effort ("Come GRWM"/"Day in the Life of a SAHM of 6 under 6") that is supposed to be "authentic" in its representing of trad wife life, but it's all still made for show. It's this generation's version of "How Does She Do It??? She's Sexy and Stylish, Yet Maternal and Moral!"

TL;DR: The trad wife trend and the OnlyFans girlies trend are two sides of the same coin. Same shit different year. Either public property or private property.

Spoiler: What men think happens in the home when women are independent

 

[Beteljuice]

A lot of former trad wives who are vocal about their experiences all sing the same song: they were expected to do literally everything in their marriages and childrearing, and they were subjected to unfair and inequal treatment. Their husbands would not contribute to the household chores and fully expected them to complete them by themselves, or with the children's help, no matter how young the children were. Their husbands sometimes have jobs; others have endless opportunities and side hustles or are trust fund babies. They're expected to maintain their looks to an unreasonable degree and to the expense of their health. Disturbingly, a few of them mention how they were pressured into sex by their husbands shortly after they gave birth. (Side note: I think men who engage in the trad wife lifestyle also have a breeding fetish.)

You WILL clean, cook, wash, store, manage every single thing in the house, you WILL be the sole caretaker of our 7 children, you WILL NOT spend time outside unless it's doing groceries and taking the kids for a walk, you WILL disclose every single thing you do and you WILL do every single thing I say, whenever I say it. If I say shut up you WILL shut up, if I say fuck off you WILL fuck off, if I say suck my cock or make me another baby, you WILL suck my cock and make me another baby. You WILL NOT get old; if you show any signs of wrinkles, saggy breasts, or the toll your body has taken from birthing 7 children, I WILL grow disgusted and dissatisfied with you, blame you for being an old hag that is ruining my life, and eventually cheat on you with a virile, young woman. It is not my fault, my needs were simply not being fullfilled.
If you do not adhere to a single one of these tasks, I WILL divorce you and completely drop you from my life. What will you do then? You WILL NOT be allowed to pursue any interests or careers when you reside in my care, so you're going to be out there, single, old, with zero experience, with zero close relationships outside of my immediate family. I WILL have complete power over you, and you WILL enjoy it. If you protest, do anything that slightly angers me, or if I simply feel like it, I WILL hurt and abuse you. It's not like you can do much to stop it anyway.

As someone who's pretty career focussed, (and is not attracted to men but that's besides the point) the tradwife existence seems like a literal nightmare. I really wish and hope for every single woman to have something with which they can stand on their own two feet, (tradlife)moids are not to be trusted.

 

[Rabid Weasels]

they want to get in positions of power without working the way up.

This is also why they want to be in relationships with women. Including women that they hate.