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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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6-9 months before the next GE, labour will pull some stunts like lowering VAT or dropping taxes, then promise they will finish their mission to do X if they're voted in again. They'll get voted in again because people have gold fish memories.

Tale as old as time.
I saw someone raging about the Epstein cover up saying “do politicians think people are stupid?”

No, politicians know people are stupid.

Take as old as time indeed.
 
Farage is controlled opposition and his entire career shows it. He has had like a dozen cheap wins over the years he literally refused to take. He had a good 3 chances of a real shot at pushing his party and maybe even becoming PM and every time he went the opposite way.

Reform is just the latest of his grifts. He took it over exactly to stop people like Lowe from having power and pushing things to the actual right wing.

In a way the fact Labour is holding onto power so desperatly is a blessing for you brits. It is giving time for the actual opposition to form and making Farage's takeover of Reform explicit and obvious to everyone. The actual base of the party is evaporating right under him as people on the ground who joined to stop the boats move away from his false persona and he replaces it with yes men and approved opinions.

Restore is where things will get done. Do not fall for Reform, it is not gonna reform shit.
Whilst I see your POV, Restore is unlikely (for now anyway) to be able to compete with Reform UK let alone send it back to being a minority party.

IF it does, and IF Elon gets on board and Nigel does nuke Reform UK (in which case, even I'd be tempted to say 'never again, Nigel') then perhaps I'd consider Restore if they are the new CO (Credible Option).

What people sometimes don't understand is that I and others in Reform UK don't see Nigel as the long-term solution, he is there to take power and to bring about the first round of changes needed to take us back to something resembling the United Kingdom. Just like Ryan and Rob have taken Wrexham FC from Non-League to the Championship in under five years, Nigel's charisma and campaigning has taken the anti-EU, pro-common sense parties of UKIP, Brexit and now Reform UK from being nothing to being something.

However, Nigel isn't everything - Reform UK is the way that the disenfranchised are finally answering back and that is more important than even his role. I wouldn't say that the vote is going from us currently, if anything they're gaining from Labour and Tories all the time and only the Lib Dems are making any marginal gains in the Polls. Yes, they cannot be complacent, but the facts speak for themselves - most people now apparently want Nigel as PM and Reform UK as the party of power.

Would I take two or three years of Nigel as PM, with somebody like Lowe or even Golding taking charge after Nigel steps down? Yes, I would - by then they'll be able to move as far right as they wish, because who is going to stop them? The Lib Dems (if the Opposition) will spend their time bleating about 'muh EU re-joining' whilst Reform UK will have hopefully got the economy under control and gotten rid of the toxic woke culture and its disciples. Providing that things are good, the debts are gone or manageable, the cost of living and cost of food/drink etc. is low then few will care.

For me, personally, it's about what the party/movement wants that is important and for now Reform UK have my vote, backing and blessing as the only credible player at the table. Should that change, then maybe I will change my voting and thinking but Restore will have to be able to outdo not just Reform UK but also Britain First, Advance UK, Heritage, Reclaim, BNP etc. A tall ask indeed.

My hope would be of uniting these tribes somehow one day into a 'Super Right' party, but I guess that will only come around after Nigel has left.

I will still vote Reform UK as the numbers are important - the more we get, the better the chance of a move away from the toxic left society. Yes, Nigel is not perfect, but as a pragmatist I have to say 'what is best for the country - a split vote between the various Right Wing parties and Labour/Tories pissing on us again for five years or Reform UK getting over the finishing line with a majority and the chance at last of decent and positive change?'

We've had the most miserable decade since the Second World War in the 2020s - I do not intend that to continue, and if/when the day of change is announced then it currently stands that my vote will only go to one man and one party. You can call me an idiot, a fool, whatever - unless there's a better alternative on the table, I've decided my main course and will accept my just desserts.
 
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Why was a five foot and a bit girl who looks like she’s built like a sparrow sent to arrest a bloke who had attacked someone? I’m not even saying this as a criticism of the officer herself - she tried. But ffs the guy had already attacked someone with potentially lethal force (a headbutt is not trivial.)
Back in the day police were all big lads, and they’d fuck you up. Now we’ve got slight young women sent to arrest violent men and they’re not even allowed to use force on them. The perps should have been put on the floor and given a brisk going over by her majesty’s finest.
I know people here arent a big fan of the police, but they are an essential part of law and order, and they should be able to be physically intimidating when arresting violent criminals. If you’re a violent mohammedean who has been brawling you should expect to get a kicking from the plod.
Instead we’ve got small women getting broken faces, police not allowed to lay a finger on genuinely dangerous men, or facing an inquiry every time they draw a weapon, and coppers sent to arrest women for praying outside abortion clinics. I would love to know what the more old school rank and file think about all this. Make it make sense.

For your viewing "pleasure" Otterly -

 
The Germans started scaring us.
There's a quote that pops up in the loading screens for Empire: Total War every so often:
"We have been, we are, and I hope we always will be despised in France."

Its a shame that ancient wisdom has been forgotten, since that's a sentiment even we Americans can get behind.
I just like the idea of Big Baz, fresh from a revolution, sitting down, opening the paper and seeing his taxes going up; then just shaking his head and grabbing his gun again.
"Shouldn't 'ave taxed me chips!"
The UK will never be overthrown by an anarchistic coup simply because they'd run out of bullets.
I'm sure the USA can work out some sort of mutually-beneficial lend-lease agreement.
 
I have been fearing a Northern Rock 2. In all honesty, I am betting that HSBC or Natwest, as well as Santander, are not looking good either. I think Labour thinks the pause in Parliament is going to alleviate the grave situation currently, but it is going to make it much worse.
We have a government that is paralyzed; it is unsustainable.
 
Fuck all that "hey hey ho ho" fucking shit. These people larping 70s American activism and mindlessly repeating the same slogans that didn't work fifty years ago drive me absolutely bonkers. I hope they make Starmer shit himself anyway.

I also wonder if DPAC cymru have realised how similar their logo looks to a sun cross...

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Yes, I am aware that they're likely drawing on early post-roman vrythonic symbology, though I'm fairly certain most of the celtic crosses found in Wales are on the graves of Irish colonisers rather than the natives. Regardless, given the way any display of even a traditional a celtic cross is treated as closet nazism these days, I'm only ensuring that the rules are equally applies. DPAC cymru are fascist white supremacists who proudly display racist dogwhistle symbols at their marches.. The fact there's not a single BAME individual present at their protest proves it.
 
For your viewing "pleasure" Otterly -

Two Female Officers Upholding the Law.mp4
ye gods what’s she doing? Stamp on the back of one knee while he’s off balance and take him down, then kneel on him. She does at least get him on the floor and not give up once he’s punched her. Any fairly burly bloke would have had them on the floor in seconds.
Women should not be sent out to these kind of calls. Frankly half the soy male gremlins I see in uniform shouldnt either.
They used to recruit from ex forces, and always remember coppers as being big lads. Recruiting from universities has been a disaster. The police used to be far more respected by regular people.
Remind me again what percentage of met police made zero arrests last year? Was it 50 or 70%?
 
Why was a five foot and a bit girl who looks like she’s built like a sparrow sent to arrest a bloke who had attacked someone? I’m not even saying this as a criticism of the officer herself - she tried. But ffs the guy had already attacked someone with potentially lethal force (a headbutt is not trivial.)
I'm genuinely conflicted as to whose side I'm on here. On the one hand, TMD. They should fall in line or fuck off (willingly or otherwise) to whatever desert shithole they originated from at their earliest inconvenience and should never deign to lay even their eyes, much less their hands, on another civilised person ever again.

On the other hand, fuck the police in this country. They willingly sided with them and took up arms against the natives years ago- the policewoman whose face was culturally enriched has probably gleefully arrested multiple native people for the 'crime' of posting Islamophobic tweets online.

This is how the barbarians reward your loyalty:

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Parenthetically, I've been banging the drum of "5'4" women have no business being police officers" for years now and every story I see like this just strengthens my resolve on that point. Female police officers are chocolate teapots and picking DEI over competence and suitability for the role only ever results in shit like this happening. How long before one of them is KIA (if that hasn't happened already)?

We should not be putting women on the frontlines against the psychotic rampaging neanderthals who have more respect for the shit on the soles of their shoes than they do for this country and its native inhabitants and laws.
 
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The police being weak cuts both ways. A strong police force would be hell for the politically incorrect people. If things really kick off targeting females is a good way to get the weakling men to run to their rescue and get battered too.

The police looking weak while the boat people are on the news scares people. They want protecting and will vote to protect themselves.
 
Parenthetically, I've been banging the drum of "5'4" women have no business being police officers"
I think there is a need for women on the force. Detectives, dealing with children, or sexual assault victims, etc. If someone’s had the shit kicked out of them by a violent male parent then a female officer may be a less threatening and more comforting presence for example. Women need women to search them, all that kind of thing.
But a small women to arrest a violent male is going to end badly.
I didn’t realise the Manchester lot were firearms (and I should have because I’ve been through there enough) she could have been killed and if he’d got her gun and wanted to use it an awful lot of people could have died.
The few times I’ve had to deal with the police they’ve always been very professional, and I want, and think the country needs and deserves, a strong police force. But it has to be policing by consent like the original model and that requires respect. Police deal with some very unpleasant people - they do put their lives on the line and I would like to go back to when we respected that. Until the rot is cut out, and until they stop being seen as petty enforcers of social engineering, I don’t think that will happen. It damages the police, the public, everything
 
I think there is a need for women on the force. Detectives, dealing with children, or sexual assault victims, etc. If someone’s had the shit kicked out of them by a violent male parent then a female officer may be a less threatening and more comforting presence for example. Women need women to search them, all that kind of thing.
Completely agree, women do and should have a significant place in the force and those are good examples as to why. I'd never want to shut them out entirely.
But a small women to arrest a violent male is going to end badly.
I assume interacting with and/or arresting violent men is not an unusual occurrence for police in this country, or indeed any other- I daresay that it's the most significant part of the job. This is where the problem lies.

I conjecture that when women were first permitted to be police officers, it was assumed that criminals would respect the badge- even if it was worn by someone who the average man could comfortably lift over his head one-handed. That may have been the case at one point in living memory, but when you go on to import a race of people who hold dogs in higher regard than women we end up with situations like this. Female police officers will be a laughing stock and a thorn in the side of the force until the day such people are removed from this country.

It could work, but currently it does not.
 
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