US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[A Cardboard Box]

They’ll just sell the stuff elsewhere

What the fuck are you talking about? China is absolutely dependent on the US market. They absolutely will not just sell their shit elsewhere.

The Russian position has been clear from day one: They’re willing to negotiate and sent a delegation to Peace talks when Trump asked them to. They even proposed an energy ceasefire to show their good will.

This is just total bullshit. Trump has worked his ass off for a deal and Putin has slow played the entire time and stood him up. That's why Trump is so pissed.

ITS NONE OF AMERICAS BUSINESS!

America is the global hegemon. Isolationism is retarded. I think finally people are waking up and realizing it. The vast majority of people that thought they wanted an isolationist America have rightly realized they don't want isolationism, they just want our allies to respect us and carry their fucking weight. America is powerful, we should be the leader of the free world, and we shouldn't grovel to Euros or Chinks. Now that the Europeans and our Pacific allies are finally aligning with the program, I think it will be fine.

It would be immensely retarded to cede our global fucking empire without a fight. That's insane.

 

[Fapcop]

I wholeheartedly agree with tariffing China to hell so the CCP can die in the ditch already.

They won’t though. They’ll just sell their shit elsewhere.

The only ones who’ll die in a ditch will be consumers and American producers who use Chinese components. (Literally all of them).

Don't take it personally, they are lying to all of us, not just you.

That was the appeal of Trump though. Someone who lies a little less and isn’t of the swamp. Was a nice dream for a bit..

 

[marlimar]

Chinks will be fine: They’ll just sell the stuff elsewhere, it’ll damage American producers most of all.

EU already fucked China with anti-dumping measures, that's all China has is trash to dump. Take Xi's micro penis out of your mouth before you start trying to doompill people that are just better than you.

 

[Fapcop]

What did you think of Stargate Universe? I thought it really had its moments and could have been good, but it seemed like it was poorly received.

I pity the fool who likes SGU.

ALL THE REAL NIGGAS KNOW THAT SG1 WAS *Chef’s kiss* AND STARGATE ATLANTIS WAS UNDERRATED AND OFTEN BETTER THAN SG1.

 

[The best and greatest]

They won’t though. They’ll just sell their shit elsewhere.

There is no replacement for the American consumer market.

 

[Wax]

Yet another CCP dickriding retard doomposting about Trump.

 

[SITHRAK!]

(Before anyone says this is blackpilling... you're projecting your sense of being a loser. This is predictive politics. I intend to make money on whichever way I think it'll go, and I'll bet accordingly, unlike you, who will keep being a cuck to your daddy.)

Amazing. Halfway through that post you were saying “I got it wrong” but literally less than a paragraph later you revert to gargling your own balls like the smug twat we’ve all come to loathe. And what’s worse, you have no reason to be smug, with your tepid troll-lite posts and utterly pedestrian opinions.
I have no idea why you’re so determined to be this forum’s metaphorical equivalent to an oral cold sore that pops up exactly when it’s least desirable. But I do wish you’d stop. Posting, logging in, breathing, I don’t care which, just stop at least one of them.

 

[marlimar]

I pity the fool who likes SGU.

ALL THE REAL NIGGAS KNOW THAT SG1 WAS *Chef’s kiss* AND STARGATE ATLANTIS WAS UNDERRATED AND OFTEN BETTER THAN SG1.

I prefer Firefly to Stargate, more a space soap opera, guess there's no accounting for taste.

 

[Sammich]

Trump has not actually ever brought up mass amnesty. What happens is Trump says "Hey, we're working on X" and every unstable retard on the planet immediately assumes he means mass amnesty. And then it's never mass amnesty. Because the man who has Stephen Miller running half the government at this point and increased ICE's budget by over 20 times is obviously going to cuck out about amnesty. For reasons. Never any actual evidence, Trump never actually says anything that directly or indirectly indicates amnesty, just assumptions by blackpillers because all y'all don't believe in winning.

It's sort of that way about a lot of the stuff trump says, or does. People go straight to the absolute worse case.

Take the Ukraine weapons stuff, Trump has clearly said a couple times.. paraphrasing because it's early and I don't wann look up the exact words.. Putin needs to be workign on a peace deal or we will give ukraine weapons to fuck him up. And Putin has been bombing the shit out of ukraine for a good while now, and low and behold Trump is making noises to give ukraine weapons. And you have some people claim he's backstabbing putin. And still others that claim he's sucking putin's dick, and he's just putin's puppet and all that horseshit. Strangely those types don't claim he's elon's puppet anymore though.

I tend to give thread regulars the benefit of the doubt, as just being silly, or misguided, or hell concerned, but a lot of them are dumb too. I try to be friendly to folks in here as best i can, but some real retarded motherfuckers in here and if you say a nice thing once, you are forever required to pat their asses. Your opinion can't change, like ever. Mormons are sexpests, and normie retards are always gonna be normie retards though.

 

[SITHRAK!]

There is no replacement for the American consumer market.

You know what Temu really is? It’s the CCP saying “holy shit we have vast stockpiles of crap that’ll cost more to dump than to sell at a loss, and more to keep warehousing than either”.
Then they made the Temu app which is basically spyware and lied about the stockpiles of crap to get it out the door in exchange for much-needed liquidity.

If the price of goods is so low that a Pajeet who only owns three smelly rags and a mobile phone can buy a new non-smelly rag without breaking the bank… and theres 1.4 billion of the cunts, plus all the other poor third world nations full of prospective cheap crap buyers, the US’ market starts to look maybe not so important.

 

[The best and greatest]

If the price of goods is so low that a Pajeet who only owns three smelly rags and a mobile phone can buy a new non-smelly rag without breaking the bank… and theres 1.4 billion of the cunts, plus all the other poor third world nations full of prospective cheap crap buyers, the US’ market starts to look maybe not so important.

Pajeets and Chinese hate each other. I wouldn't consider them a reliable market

 

[Spud]

EU already fucked China with anti-dumping measures, that's all China has is trash to dump. Take Xi's micro penis out of your mouth before you start trying to doompill people that are just better than you.

Listen man, you just don't get it. China have those fancy videos that show Chinese cityscapes drenched in artificial LEDs that make it look cool and futuristic. It's so over bro, may as well just call it.

 

[NuruMaleMasseuse]

What the fuck are you talking about? China is absolutely dependent on the US market. They absolutely will not just sell their shit elsewhere.

This is just total bullshit. Trump has worked his ass off for a deal and Putin has slow played the entire time and stood him up. That's why Trump is so pissed.

America is the global hegemon. Isolationism is retarded. I think finally people are waking up and realizing it. The vast majority of people that thought they wanted an isolationist America have rightly realized they don't want isolationism, they just want our allies to respect us and carry their fucking weight. America is powerful, we should be the leader of the free world, and we shouldn't grovel to Euros or Chinks. Now that the Europeans and our Pacific allies are finally aligning with the program, I think it will be fine.

It would be immensely retarded to cede our global fucking empire without a fight. That's insane.

Our global empire? You are delusional nigger to think there is an "our" or "we" in anything.

 

[Alcoholism]

It's in reference to the already existent H-2A seasonal agricultural visa. He didn't say it explicitly but what he described was a system which already exists, where workers here illegally but which are otherwise law abiding can apply for the visa program, and if they adhere to the requirements of the visa while on a probationary program they will be allowed to maintain their visa status.

I mean, if we're talking about "disrespect," I don't know what could be more disrespectful than Putin totally standing Trump up on peace talks. Meanwhile, Zelensky virtually prostrated himself and apologized to the American people on national television. Additionally, Zelensky promised preferred partnerships with American companies. Meanwhile Putin has told Trump to get fucked at every turn while actively undermining our allies. As for Patriots, the vast majority of our stock depletion has been due to conflict in the Middle East. Frankly I am of the opinion that a total Ukrainian victory is objectively the best outcome for the United States. We secure a solid ally on NATO's eastern flank, a geopolitical rival is exhausted and humiliated, and Ukraine, devastated by war, will be given tens of billions by the IMF, UN, and EU for rebuilding which a significant amount of will go to American companies contracted to help Ukraine rebuild.

"The military industrial complex is good, actually" is a very Clinton-like take.

 

[inetsone]

Amazing. Halfway through that post you were saying “I got it wrong” but literally less than a paragraph later you revert to gargling your own balls like the smug twat we’ve all come to loathe. And what’s worse, you have no reason to be smug, with your tepid troll-lite posts and utterly pedestrian opinions.
I have no idea why you’re so determined to be this forum’s metaphorical equivalent to an oral cold sore that pops up exactly when it’s least desirable. But I do wish you’d stop. Posting, logging in, breathing, I don’t care which, just stop at least one of them.

That's a cool defense mechanism you have there. There's nothing wrong with being a smug asshole, especially with the levels of cope were seeing for "daddy."

But... I will try to tone it down. TMI: Since covid it's something I struggle with along with being bitter, which I never have been a bitter person, about how fucking dumb it all is now. You can't even order a milk shake at McD's without them fucking it up.

 

[mandatorylurk]

We're reaching a new level of stupid:

I'm trying to understand the modern brainrot mindset of people, who think they can get 100% of what they want or it's joever. To say socialists are America First is one of the dumbest things and a good instance of people being given some persuasive power just driving it into a ditch. Bernie hasn't been pro-American since 2016 at least, AOC cares more about illegals than you, and Finger Rice is a retarded theater kid who is upset white women didn't find him attractive.

There's also the feeling all these brocasters need to tack left because they need the hollywood access still, they got scared being on "the right" for all of six months. I do disagree with Scott here that GenZ isn't conservative, they still are because they still see "men = bad, white = bad" everywhere, but Andrew Schulz is 41.

 

[David Brown]

"The military industrial complex is good, actually" is a very Clinton-like take.

I'm giggling at the idea of Biden and Nuland's retard war in Ukraine (decidedly not in US sphere of influence, but rather obviously Russian sphere of influence) is actually totally an important pillar of MAGA actually

 

[marlimar]

That's a cool defense mechanism you have there. There's nothing wrong with being a smug asshole, especially with the levels of cope were seeing for "daddy."

But... I will try to tone it down. TMI: Since covid it's something I struggle with along with being bitter, which I never have been a bitter person, about how fucking dumb it all is now. You can't even order a milk shake at McD's without them fucking it up.

Mcdonald's milkshake machines have been a literal meme for years, calm down.

 

[The Ugly One]

dysgenic freaks on disability

Most people on disability have no disorder other than being black.

He has expressed several times giving clemency for service and agriculture illegals

Agriculture workers amount to 4%-5% of illegals.

Anyone who thought Trump was going to end all immigration is like the people who thought he was going to sever diplomatic ties with Israel. He never said it was going to happen, never promised it, and never hinted at it. It's something that happened only in your own head. Trump doesn't listen to "fashy podcasts" or read Vdare. I wasn't surprised at all that he expressed a willingness to relax on the margins. Making deals is what he does.

If Trump gets rid of the 90% of illegals who aren't picking strawberries, that will still be 9x more illegals than anyone's gotten rid of since Eisenhower.

 

[God of Nothing]

reaching a new level of stupid:
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I'm trying to understand the modern brainrot mindset of people, who think they can get 100% of what they want or it's joever. To say socialists are America First is one of the dumbest things and a good instance of people being given some persuasive power just driving it into a ditch. Bernie hasn't been pro-American since 2016 at least, AOC cares more about illegals than you, and Finger Rice is a retarded theater kid who is upset white women didn't find him attractive.

There's also the feeling all these brocasters need to tack left because they need the hollywood access still, they got scared being on "the right" for all of six months. I do disagree with Scott here that GenZ isn't conservative, they still are because they still see "men = bad, white = bad" everywhere, but Andrew Schulz is 41.

they are children eho think if they keep saying things it'll make them true
also trying to convince the handful of undecided retards left they're totally the real lovers of america as they scream their hatred of it