Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Irene and 22 others]

I hope we get another hearing,. The last one was amazing and Greer trying to weasel his way out of it led to uncovering a gold mine, never mind Russell canceling his own IFP status even after the judge realized he was a retard and likely didn't know what he was saying. Since Greer has no understanding of what the hell he's doing (or even should be doing), he's bound to make several additional unforced errors and completely torpedo any chance he might have at appealing the case.

 

[goblin enby]

I sincerely want another hearing for Greee to be given the opportunity to explain why he has disobeyed and continues to disobey several orders of the court.

Barlow is also an extremely lazy waste of oxygen. It's been over a week since the status report and literally all he needs to do is a docket text order increasing the sanctions to $1500 with a very short new deadline to pay and a threat to increase them further and/or dismiss the case if Greee fails to pay a third time.

 

[BoobWhiskers]

Barlow is also an extremely lazy waste of oxygen. It's been over a week since the status report and literally all he needs to do is a docket text order increasing the sanctions to $1500 with a very short new deadline to pay and a threat to increase them further and/or dismiss the case if Greee fails to pay a third time.

Honestly, part of me was hoping it was 'an additional [$500] per day that xyz is not produced' like another case I've been following lately, but alas.

It didn't do much good in that case either, unfortunately, because as it turns out if the person being fined just doesnt give a fuck and you don't actually enforce anything the numbers don't matter (I will say that that case's nondisclosure of documents did end up with the dude getting his door kicked in by the FBI, but that wasn't really about the delay so much as the overall crimes).

....I doubt the FBI will kick Russel's door in, he hasn't even provided them with his correct address.

 

[Harvey Danger]

I hope we get another hearing,. The last one was amazing and Greer trying to weasel his way out of it led to uncovering a gold mine,

I don't know that we can ever again get the perfect coincidence of a once-in-5-years omnibus hearing, with a once-in-a-lifetime semi-fraudulent in-person appearance by the whoremonging goblin himself. It's a cosmic crossroads of retardation never before witnessed.

I sincerely want another hearing for Greee to be given the opportunity to explain why he has disobeyed and continues to disobey several orders of the court.

I renew my call for the abolishment of ECF and the requirement to make all arguments in person. To hell with judicial economy, a concept that has completely failed to manifest in any lolsuit.

 

[cromit]

A hearing could possibly invite more pity for a mushmouth, or another chance on top of hundreds he’s already been given. It would definitely cause further delay. But taking oral argument on the motions would also give the Court another means to button down its ruling dismissing the case. Because it would give Russ every chance possible to JUST EXPLAIN! His recent filings are getting kind of sad and short, just announcing that he already explained and refuses to explain any further. I need the full explanation, Russ!

 

[obsdj]

I mean, there's a metric shitload of still-open matters before the court going back to February (the motion for sanctions at ECF 234 that was "taken under advisement" at the last hearing). If another hearing is to occur, it will surely eclipse what we've seen so far in terms of insanity, hilarity, and schadenfreude. But since that would make us happy, we probably won't get it and the case will just continue to drag along as it has been with the judges barely lifting a finger once in a while to pretend they're actually working on it.

 

[thegunbuilderguy]

Unofficial poll: me and some fellows are updating the OP for Russell's original thread. Will we finish before the judge issues his ruling?

=The OP will be finished first
=The judge will issue his ruling first

I don't even think the judge will reply anything let alone issue a ruling before the end of this month

 

[Bridgeburner]

I hope we don't get another hearing (why would there be one in the first place?), because it'd be scheduled for like November.

 

[Lapsus of the bepsus]

I hope we don't get another hearing (why would there be one in the first place?), because it'd be scheduled for like November.

at this fucking rate the case aint getting dismissed before then anyway
look at the silver lining, another hearing would inevitably be funny and devastating to russhole just like the previous one

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Wouldn't it be trivial to train an ai model on all the formatting rules and just feed your filings into it and it spits it out with all the correct formatting? This sounds like the kind of stuff AI was made for.

Hell maybe even not ai; just a hard-coded program with all the rules. That couldn't be too hard, right? What so special about this printing press that couldn't be recreated with a simple program?

It’s not just the particular formatting. You also need to submit 40 copies under the Supreme Court rules. So it’s the expense of formatting and printing multiplied by 40.

 

[AnOminous]

Thread tax: I was reminded the other day that not only are magistrate judges constitutionally incapable of doing anything case-dispositive on a docket (as they are not Article III judges), but with any report and recommendation, the parties get 14 days to object to it.

They actually can handle dispositive motions or even handle the trial, but only with the consent of all parties. Any party has the right to insist on trial and dispositive motions being before a full Article III judge. If all parties do not consent, the magistrate can only be assigned for non-dispositive motions.

Federal magistrate judges are generally of high quality (watch me bite my lip while saying this in the context of the current case) and it's often the best choice for all parties to consent to the magistrate handling the entire case. The current idiot handling the case has done it between two real Article III judges (the current one also being an idiot because clown cases appear to get clown judges) and still has barely figured out the case.

This goddamn bow-tied idiot this clown this motherfucker this. . .[OLD MAN YELLS AT CLOUD]

But since it’s called a whorehouse, clearly it’s residential property, right?

This is why we need Russell Greer. Turning a whoreHOUSE into a whoreHOME.

 

[Unknown God]

A hearing could possibly invite more pity for a mushmouth, or another chance on top of hundreds he’s already been given. It would definitely cause further delay. But taking oral argument on the motions would also give the Court another means to button down its ruling dismissing the case. Because it would give Russ every chance possible to JUST EXPLAIN! His recent filings are getting kind of sad and short, just announcing that he already explained and refuses to explain any further. I need the full explanation, Russ!

For someone like Greer I would say it's almost impossible to get him more pity. It's easy for a busy judge to let slide shit like "I disobeyed the Court because I don't have enough space on my phone" because apparently they largely just want to do as little as possible and move on with their day, whole other thing when some cretin says this shit to your fucking face.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Federal magistrate judges are generally of high quality

If you look at absolute shit quality of many Biden appointees—especially in the most blue areas like Massachusetts, California, etc.—I would even say magistrate judges are better than the newest crop of District Judges.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

When this case is finally over, can Hardin tell Russell:
"Listen, Listen, I'm not saying this as Null's lawyer, or to be mean or gloat, I'm honestly giving you my best piece of free advice, give up on law, for your own good. You've NEVER won a case, you admit this is the furthest you've ever gotten, and what did you get? YOU ended up in debt to the one you're suing, AGAIN! If this is the absolute best you've ever managed in the courts, you just factually aren't good at this. Again, I don't say this just to be rude, this isn't a problem that can be solved with more experience or education. You're just innately bad at researching, understanding and applying law, in a way that cannot be fixed. If you try to sue someone again, this is all you have to look forward too, if not worse. You think I'm mean? Meaner than Skordas? No, you just got far enough for the first time in 10 for the other side to actually have to mount a substantial defense because the case wasn't immediately laughed out of court like all the others. You think these judges were mean? These judges were nicer to you than you could ever expect! If you ever got this far, in discovery, with one of your bigger targets like Taylor Swift or Lance Gilman, their legal teams would POUNCE on you much harder for EVERY. SINGLE. BLUNDER. filing for sanctions and fees every single time, the judges you get would probably be much meaner and actually grant it every single time, and getting stuck with their fee shifting would be hundreds of thousands if not over a MILLION DOLLARS! Honestly, for your own good, give up!"

 

[UncleTusky]

When this case is finally over, can Hardin tell Russell:
"Listen, Listen, I'm not saying this as Null's lawyer, or to be mean or gloat, I'm honestly giving you my best piece of free advice, give up on law, for your own good. You've NEVER won a case, you admit this is the furthest you've ever gotten, and what did you get? YOU ended up in debt to the one you're suing, AGAIN! If this is the absolute best you've ever managed in the courts, you just factually aren't good at this. Again, I don't say this just to be rude, this isn't a problem that can be solved with more experience or education. You're just innately bad at researching, understanding and applying law, in a way that cannot be fixed. If you try to sue someone again, this is all you have to look forward too, if not worse. You think I'm mean? Meaner than Skordas? No, you just got far enough for the first time in 10 for the other side to actually have to mount a substantial defense because the case wasn't immediately laughed out of court like all the others. You think these judges were mean? These judges were nicer to you than you could ever expect! If you ever got this far, in discovery, with one of your bigger targets like Taylor Swift or Lance Gilman, their legal teams would POUNCE on you much harder for EVERY. SINGLE. BLUNDER. filing for sanctions and fees every single time, the judges you get would probably be much meaner and actually grant it every single time, and getting stuck with their fee shifting would be hundreds of thousands if not over a MILLION DOLLARS! Honestly, for your own good, give up!"

If Hardin has learned nothing else from this godforsaken case, it should be that there is no reasoning or negotiating with Greer.

 

[Ed Craven]

When this case is finally over, can Hardin tell Russell:
"Listen, Listen, I'm not saying this as Null's lawyer, or to be mean or gloat, I'm honestly giving you my best piece of free advice, give up on law, for your own good. You've NEVER won a case, you admit this is the furthest you've ever gotten, and what did you get? YOU ended up in debt to the one you're suing, AGAIN! If this is the absolute best you've ever managed in the courts, you just factually aren't good at this. Again, I don't say this just to be rude, this isn't a problem that can be solved with more experience or education. You're just innately bad at researching, understanding and applying law, in a way that cannot be fixed. If you try to sue someone again, this is all you have to look forward too, if not worse. You think I'm mean? Meaner than Skordas? No, you just got far enough for the first time in 10 for the other side to actually have to mount a substantial defense because the case wasn't immediately laughed out of court like all the others. You think these judges were mean? These judges were nicer to you than you could ever expect! If you ever got this far, in discovery, with one of your bigger targets like Taylor Swift or Lance Gilman, their legal teams would POUNCE on you much harder for EVERY. SINGLE. BLUNDER. filing for sanctions and fees every single time, the judges you get would probably be much meaner and actually grant it every single time, and getting stuck with their fee shifting would be hundreds of thousands if not over a MILLION DOLLARS! Honestly, for your own good, give up!"

This is a larp. So many people in Russell’s own life have tried to help him and he’s even copped criminal charges. He feels betrayed that Hardin isn’t a “neutral third party”, you think Russ would listen?

 

[John Andrews Stan]

When this case is finally over, can Hardin tell Russell

Hardin’s hourly rate certainly makes him more conscious than most that it’s a complete waste of time to try to reason with the likes of Russell Greee. Those minutes would be better spent doing literally anything else, such as chewing tinfoil.

 

[waffle]

When this case is finally over, can Hardin tell Russell:
"Listen, Listen, I'm not saying this as Null's lawyer, or to be mean or gloat, I'm honestly giving you my best piece of free advice, give up on law, for your own good. You've NEVER won a case, you admit this is the furthest you've ever gotten, and what did you get? YOU ended up in debt to the one you're suing, AGAIN! If this is the absolute best you've ever managed in the courts, you just factually aren't good at this. Again, I don't say this just to be rude, this isn't a problem that can be solved with more experience or education. You're just innately bad at researching, understanding and applying law, in a way that cannot be fixed. If you try to sue someone again, this is all you have to look forward too, if not worse. You think I'm mean? Meaner than Skordas? No, you just got far enough for the first time in 10 for the other side to actually have to mount a substantial defense because the case wasn't immediately laughed out of court like all the others. You think these judges were mean? These judges were nicer to you than you could ever expect! If you ever got this far, in discovery, with one of your bigger targets like Taylor Swift or Lance Gilman, their legal teams would POUNCE on you much harder for EVERY. SINGLE. BLUNDER. filing for sanctions and fees every single time, the judges you get would probably be much meaner and actually grant it every single time, and getting stuck with their fee shifting would be hundreds of thousands if not over a MILLION DOLLARS! Honestly, for your own good, give up!"

Why should he? It is literally hazardous to give Russ advice, he either interprets it as a personal attack and accuses you of some outrageous crime/tort or starts stalking you because he wants to be BFF's - or sometimes both. It would also just put Hardin in a bad position if he ever has to deal with Russ again professionally.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Judges have given lolcows like these direct advice similar to the above. It doesn’t help.

They’ve even given them simple instructions on how to refile successfully, which are always ignored.

 

[Himedall All-seeing Waifu]

Judges have given lolcows like these direct advice similar to the above. It doesn’t help.

They’ve even given them simple instructions on how to refile successfully, which are always ignored.

Because they take it personally as a slight. They do not understand that they fucked up procedurally and that it does not matter who they are if they do not follow the rules.

The think plightsperging is an adequate substitute for everything in life. They want the whole championship handed to them for a trophy for the same effort of earning a praticipation trophy.