I wanted to bring it up again after the first Kino Casino crash but people quickly told me not only was it confirmed to be fake, the person who made it admitted to it or vanished, never following up. If this were a fake, it was really convincing. If not, then it's another Tardski incident we all overlooked because the retard had too much benefit of the doubt.
I took the claim it was fake at face value but the more I look into it the logic seems circular? It seems to me that Metokur swept it up for Andy regardless of whether he was guilty or not of the sins he was accused of just like he would later sweep for a guilty Flam and now guilty VTubers. I'm not saying it's 100% guaranteed to be real, but instead that I'm not seeing the obvious conclusive proof that these were fabricated that I would expect for people to be as confident in dismissing it as they are.
The last time it came up in this thread, not long after the Vegas leaks at the end of last year,
@Captain Manning pointed to the best summary of the evidence as to why it was fake here. (Nothing negative intended towards
@Captain Manning, he linked to the most substantive post I could find from poking around the contemporaneous posts in that thread myself.)
Andy did address it, long ago, and it was generally agreed Andy was almost certainly the victim of a gay op. @Secret Asshole has a good summary about what happened
here. Some of the surrounding posts are a pretty decent read too.
- Beginning: Andy secures leaked audio of gay OPs. He waits for a long time and lines his ducks in a row, making sure its legit and then release the nuke.
- Tonka has been running with the skeptics in order to destroy Andy/Ralph/Jim
- Tonka has been working with Kraut and running lots of gay OPs
- Kraut didn't 'accidentally' come on the Kumite. It was planned and the acting was gay tier
- Andy's 'conspiracy theory' about Analvape, Tonka, Kraut and the Skeptics working together to destroy Jim/Ralph was true
- Andy was a target because he suddenly got popular
- They also wanted to destroy Joachim
- Tonka was proven to offer $2k to get Jim's dox but was declined EDIT: Someone might have actually took the money and that's why Jim was doxed, enlisting the help of one of the guys on the farms. This is rumored.
- They discuss the fact that they're planning to 'ruin Andy' which basically confirms that the Snapchat stuff was a gay OP and cannot be trusted
But that logic does not seem to follow at all to me? And some of the contemporaneous complaints in the thread didn't age well, since there was later a video of scrolling through the messages (shown in Cog's video) that makes it much more difficult to fake, at that point you can't just edit images, you would have to at minimum create a fake Andy Warski account.
Beyond that Warski had the very suspicious cope that even if it wasn't fake, it was legal, there's also interesting things like the fact that the name in the screenshot changes from the display name "
andy" to "andywarski" between some of the screenshots/videos, which was supposed to be suspicious. This was explained away by saying that Warski blocked the girl in between some of the screenshots, which caused the username to revert to "andywarski".
From what I can tell, this isn't the behavior that results from blocking (in this case the chat logs would be deleted and she wouldn't have been able to find Warski's account). But this appears to be what would have happened if she had set a custom name for Warski on Snapchat and then Warski unfriended her on Snapchat without blocking her, as this would wipe the custom name she had set. Why would you do this if you were faking it and then not even have the story as to why it happened match up to reality?
I'm just gonna say, whoever supposedly "faked" the Snapchat logs got Andy's writing mannerisms down 100%. That's really wild that the person who faked the logs was able to pull that off. Super crazy.
Supposedly "fake" Snapchat logs
Texts leaked by Raven (British single mom Warski tried to e-date after KC started)
