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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Spud said:
Imagine having that luxury in the comfort of your own home, you can control when it turns on, when it turns off and what temperature it cools to. You have to ask yourself, is your comfort worth the money?
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I don't have to imagine. It's useful but not essential. Freezing a big bottle of water and putting it in front of a fan does the job with less noise. The noise from ACs give me a headache after a while.

Buy those really big bottles of water and rotate them in the freezer. It's cheaper, less noisy and doesn't require having the builders in. The thread is talking about the country struggling to make ends meet and the suggestion is to spend thousands on remodeling your home for 2 weeks of heat a year.
 
Spud said:
Imagine having that luxury in the comfort of your own home, you can control when it turns on, when it turns off and what temperature it cools to. You have to ask yourself, is your comfort worth the money?
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When I lived somewhere further south I got a quote for fitting whole house AC, or as best as they could do, and it was well over ten grand even a few years ago. Whether it’s worth it or not that’s not an amount I have for anything non essential, so suffer we do. Here isn’t so bad, we only have a few days a year where it’s hot.
@Overly Serious I propose James cook for the notes.
 
Otterly said:
When I lived somewhere further south I got a quote for fitting whole house AC, or as best as they could do, and it was well over ten grand even a few years ago. Whether it’s worth it or not that’s not an amount I have for anything non essential, so suffer we do. Here isn’t so bad, we only have a few days a year where it’s hot.
@Overly Serious I propose James cook for the notes.
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I honestly wouldn't want it. One place I worked, the management got quotes for AC for the office and took a vote amongst the staff as to whether we'd like it or not and we turned it down. There are different ratings for the AC on how much the air is recylcled back into the building and honestly we decided we'd stick with windows we could open and fresh air, even if hotter. We mostly found Air Conditioned buildings to be stuffy and less comfortable and lead to more sickness. There's nothing like a breeze from the window. I'd feel the same at home.

Though this entire conversation is reminding me of the George Alexopolous cartoon (I like his cartoons)
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Amusing but not really fair. Burgers don't really understand that our energy costs are double what they pay and our buildings are, at least the older ones, brick things with cavities and designed to moderate heat. Not so confident in newer builds though. A builder doing some work for me last year was talking about new builds they were putting up near me and saying they were extremely slipshod and he thought they wouldn't last well.

Otterly said:
Not since decimalisation
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Decimalisation was a mistake and a concession to the less intelligent.
 
A topic of small talk ("Oof, hot innit?") has been overblown into this weird non-issue
I paid 27 quid for a nice fan that does the job on the weakest setting and will serve a purpose beyond this slight bout of 25c+ heat.
 
It’s 13c and raining here and I’ve got thick woolly socks on.
What summer?
 
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£360 (plus a 10% discount on checkout atm so £324) for a 3 in 1 and costs roughly 24p an hour. I get your point if you going full house like Mrs. @Otterly was looking at but I only need to cool one room not a whole house and we have the means for that instead of needing to subject oneself to insufferable heat and humidity. I have been in buildings with air con and buildings without and I will pick air con every time. 'ate the 'eat, 'ate the 'umidity love me cool air.
 
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£360 (plus a 10% discount on checkout atm so £324) for a 3 in 1 and costs roughly 24p an hour. I get your point if you going full house like Mrs. @Otterly was looking at but I only need to cool one room not a whole house and we have the means for that instead of needing to subject oneself to insufferable heat and humidity. I have been in buildings with air con and buildings without and I will pick air con every time. 'ate the 'eat, 'ate the 'umidity love me cool air.
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They're large and noisy. The won't cool a big room and if you have a family or pets you're all stuck in the same small space together for 2 weeks. It's like a caravan holiday where it rains all week long and no one wants those family fights again.
 
Two great men, sadly under-represented by history, should be on these new banknotes:

Alexander Lambert who dived heroically into the flooded Severn Tunnel in 1880 in order to save navvies from drowning.

Albert Ball (Junior) who was a World War I fighter pilot and one of the bravest airmen of British history.

I didn't learn about either man in History, but from listening to the prog band 'Big Big Train'


 
Where were you when the Chancellor of our great country was brought to fucking tears by her own job?

This is front page on the BBC, her sour face that looks like Dot Cotton licking piss off a nettle. Being brought to tears by your own job after a humiliating week of about 5 u-turns is incredible.

Of course, the Treasury put out a statement saying it was a "private matter". How on earth is this happening when they have such a huge majority of MPs? Incredible political incompetence on show here.

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Full video, this needs to be archived:

Local archive of why women shouldn't be in these positions of intense power:
 
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I really wish we had an equivalent version of "it's so Joever".

The chancellor, one of the most powerful people in government whose decisions affect literally everything, is in bits on the frontbench. Apparently a personal issue, of course anything could be considered a personal issue, even knowing the writing is on the wall for your job (which she shouldn't have anyway considering the CV shenanigans).

Starmer can't answer questions about tax rises from another party that is completely fucked, the conservatives. Serious question, why are the conservatives still sat across from the party in power? They aren't the opposition, even the Liberal Demotwats are in a better position. Why can't we have Farage sat across from Labour bringing the whole frontbench to tears?

I only started paying attention to politics at the end of Tony Blair's reign, but I can't remember any party being as thoroughly hated by everyone so early. There wasn't this much disarray and bullshit even when the conservatives were struggling on with DUP support. Labour have a decent majority yet Starmer can't stop spinning in circles trying to decide which way to go without upsetting people. Never known such a weak willed PM.
 
Nopenopenope said:
considering the CV shenanigans)
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She lied about her past and her abilities, and now she's sat there in tears in front of millions of people in a video that will never be erased. I've done a year in a job I've hated before and I'm very glad she is suffering the consequences of her own actions. Especially when her and her job especially affects whether my grandmother can afford to heat her home this winter.

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Labour have a decent majority yet Starmer
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I believe they have a larger or equivalent majority as Tony Blair. From now on, all MPs will just rebel to get what they want after two rounds of asking for concessions.

She'll be gone before the next Budget, resigning on "personal reasons", sending a gushing letter to Sir Keith (which was actually either written by ChatGPT or a PPS).
 
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She could solve homelessness by allowing everyone to sleep under those eye-bags. I love watching PMqs everyone in that room is completely incompetent, so we just have to laugh.

Prediction: Next coming election (if there isn't a riot/something kicking off) Labour will form a coalition with the Liberal dems, SNP, Greens (take your fancy) in order to avoid a right-wing (Reform) taking control. This is similar to how Germany and other European countries have done it.
 
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