Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[RodgerDodger]

I don't think a person should even need to Google search Russel. Anyone with half a brain should have alarm bells going off after a short conversation with Greer.

The problem is many of the people in these areas have a tendency towards being polite. Even in the face of a drooling retard going on about whores. They will say things like "well that is certainly an interesting idea" to be polite and non confrontational, in the hopes the drooling retard will go happen to somebody else. But Greee takes it as a buy in to his schemes. A similar thing happened regarding the hotel owner. He was simply polite to Shitlips. With the outcome being Greee was in front of the City Council trying to rezone the guys property for whores.

 

[Irene and 22 others]

The problem is many of the people in these areas have a tendency towards being polite. Even in the face of a drooling retard going on about whores. They will say things like "well that is certainly an interesting idea" to be polite and non confrontational, in the hopes the drooling retard will go happen to somebody else.

What most people don't realize is that you can be a bit of a jerk, or at least respond with something non-committal but discouraging to similar effect. Telling someone "That sounds like a terrible idea," when they say something you believe to be stupid will usually get a drooling retard to go happen to somebody else more quickly. People avoid this so that they don't have to feel bad about themselves, but it's terribly unfair to drooling retards that can't pick up on subtle body language or vocal queues. While it's not a cure and there're limits to how much a person's behavior can be shaped, I can't help but wonder if most drooling retards would be a bit less retarded if more people were upfront with them from a younger age.

 

[lolwatagain]

They won't, but they can. In fact, any District Court could, on showing of good cause, issue something like this:

In Re Martin-Trigona, 592 F. Supp. 1566 (D. Conn. 1984).

And yet that order hasn't stopped Andy Martin from filing additional lawsuits and trying to intervene in others.

I'm sure Rusty would end up doing the same, although Andy's a very special case.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

but Greer was CCing him on the city council shit long before.

I am aware, but I don't believe Mr. Huber was keeping as close of an eye on that as he should have. Per my understanding his realization of Russ' nature happened closer to when Mr. Hardin CC'd him. That's the impression I got anyway. I'm not speaking to Mr. Huber.

Was it ever determined if "W.H." was actually Waylon Huber and whether or not he actually knew of his association with said LLC?

They had "dealings" to some extent, though to what extent is unclear to me. I don't believe he knew of the purpose of the LLC at any rate.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

I am aware, but I don't believe Mr. Huber was keeping as close of an eye on that as he should have. Per my understanding his realization of Russ' nature happened closer to when Mr. Hardin CC'd him. That's the impression I got anyway. I'm not speaking to Mr. Huber.

They had "dealings" to some extent, though to what extent is unclear to me. I don't believe he knew of the purpose of the LLC at any rate.

I also don't believe that Mr. Huber agreed to be an officer for Crusty Rusty's LLC, otherwise he would have been listed by name, as required by Nevada state law. Greer listing an officer as "W. H." is actually a serious violation of Nevada state law with regard to the filing of paperwork concerning the creation of an LLC. The law clearly states there must be no attempt to obscure or conceal the identity of anyone who is an officer of an LLC. I don't think Mr. Huber would agree to be part of an LLC where the filing of the initial paperwork for its formation was in direct contravention of the Nevada state laws of business organization. That's something an actual businessman would never do because they aren't completely retarded (usually).

 

[mitro]

Sean will be covering plights at 8pm ET

 

[Pee Cola]

Greer listing an officer as "W. H." is actually a serious violation of Nevada state law with regard to the filing of paperwork concerning the creation of an LLC. The law clearly states there must be no attempt to obscure or conceal the identity of anyone who is an officer of an LLC.

How on Earth was Greee's new LLC registered with "W. H." listed as an officer? Do the Nevada authorities not bother proofreading the application form before approving LLC registrations?

 

[AnOminous]

"Liberal construction does not, however, require the court to assume the role of advocate for the pro se plaintiff."* Tena Campbell, we miss you.

And she described exactly what this clown court has been doing for years now.

 

[TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve]

How on Earth was Greee's new LLC registered with "W. H." listed as an officer? Do the Nevada authorities not bother proofreading the application form before approving LLC registrations?

Probably. Russell definitely isn't above maliciously utilizing automated forms to further his goals of hoe-dom. I think it was in Utah he attempted to register a brothel as a business. The registration was automatically accepted through the website, then later someone actually looked at it after the fact and revoked the registration, leading to him suing the state (or at least using that as one of his arguments) because he was given his business license after being honest about his plans and obviously that meant it was legal which obviously meant it was illegal for the state to tell him no when they realized what he was trying to do

 

[That_Guy]

How on Earth was Greee's new LLC registered with "W. H." listed as an officer? Do the Nevada authorities not bother proofreading the application form before approving LLC registrations?

Totally-not-a-lawyer response: Large portions of the legal system (and gobs of other stuff) work pretty much because most people usually do things when and how they're supposed to. It mostly works and checking every little thing would be an enormous timesink. If it got looked at at all it was probably just the computer that ate that form seeing something in that field. Figuring out what is work, and mostly it's fine so why check unless there's some need?

 

[talk talk talk]

Large portions of the legal system (and gobs of other stuff) work pretty much because most people usually do things when and how they're supposed to.

And that's why the credibility of lawyers and pro-se's is really important. Hardin's pounding on Russtard's credibility isn't just trolling and a-logging; it's an intentional strategy.

 

[The Un-Clit]

Sean will be covering plights at 8pm ET
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Kc2XLlKr7AU

"We have Josh's (sub)penor, chayt! Something we thought we'd never see!".

 

[RodgerDodger]

"We have Josh's (sub)penor, chayt! Something we thought we'd never see!".

Is he offering to show it to the High Priest of Armenia?

 

[Hrothgar]

And she described exactly what this clown court has been doing for years now.

I need to find time to go back and look because maybe I'm fucking retarded and it was like half a decade ago, but I swear to Christ her dismissal was riddled with undertones of "Yeah, Russel is a fucking tard but Kiwi Farms are REALLY bad people and he should appeal" and the intervening years have granted her an unearned status.

 

[reactionary]

They had "dealings" to some extent

Intimate?

 

[DennisReynolds]

Totally-not-a-lawyer response: Large portions of the legal system (and gobs of other stuff) work pretty much because most people usually do things when and how they're supposed to. It mostly works and checking every little thing would be an enormous timesink. If it got looked at at all it was probably just the computer that ate that form seeing something in that field. Figuring out what is work, and mostly it's fine so why check unless there's some need?

Chris Chan's Sonichu copyright is a great example of this. The feds/state aren't paying people to painstakingly research the merits of every application to determine whether some retard owns his sonic OC or if GREEEEE correctly identified his "agent". Only once it's become a problem for "W.H." or the courts will Russ have to answer for that. Hence why he's been losing his goddamn mind at Hardin for actually scrutinizing these things and putting pressure on him to answer or face sanctions for his lies.

 

[Malcolm X]

I need to find time to go back and look because maybe I'm fucking retarded and it was like half a decade ago, but I swear to Christ her dismissal was riddled with undertones of "Yeah, Russel is a fucking tard but Kiwi Farms are REALLY bad people and he should appeal" and the intervening years have granted her an unearned status.

You're free to do that of course, but since I obviously just re-read it, I can give you my answer. I didn't get any such undertones at all. Not only did Judge Campbell dismiss Russ's entire case (while noting that Russ can't even sue Kiwi Farms, a website, because it's not a legal entity that can be sued, an argument Based Skordas didn't even raise), she slapped down his motions to add "Kiwi Farms bad" to his original complaint (including the famous Hitler picture), specifically noting that it had nothing to do with his case. The dismissal doesn't mention appeal. She doesn't talk about appeal until Russ motioned for her to reconsider, claiming Judge Campbell didn't know to judge properly, which she also slapped down. It's in her rejection of that motion where she says something like, "The court is sorry you're disappointed that you lost, but you're free to appeal". I definitely didn't read it as Russ "should" appeal or that Judge Campbell had any feelings about the Farms one way or the other.

And this part is pure speculation, but when Russ won his appeal and the case was sent back down to Judge Campbell, she immediately did a "lol no" and recused herself. Now she did retire a few months later, so maybe she just didn't want to take on a new case or something, I don't know how that works. But I choose to believe she thought Russ's case was completely meritless and that the appeal was bullshit and that she wasn't about to suffer through reading his poorly-written screeds about muh plights again.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Hearsay isn't admissible to court, Russell. You should've learned that after you tried suing Dennis Hof.

Not entirely true. Hearsay is admissible if it's excluded or falls into an exception. And in pretrial federal litigation, it can even be in inadmissible form (depending on circuit law) if it could fairly be presented in admissible form at trial. But this probably doesn't meet any of the qualifications to come in—whether as hearsay or otherwise. It's just irrelevant whinging.

 

[Yours Truly 2095]

I was at home Depot and I found exactly what Greer needs to win the case and wipe those goof ups off the record for good.

 

[HackerX]

Do you think Harden has a spreadsheet that keeps track of Russ's pending, anticipated, or expected actions? I imagine it's damn near necessary because it's so easy to lose track of shit Russell said he was going to do, or is supposed to do, over the course of this entire thing.

It's definitely easy for things like 'Russell is supposed to send this application on MM/DD/YY' or 'pay this sanction' because those are court ordered (even though he still ignores it LOL), but for things like threatening to sanction Harden (then didn't), file a police report (then didn't), etc, it's gotta be a mess.