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Should be a wild four years.

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I'm not "simping for Muslims," I'm pointing out the fact that Trump has been saying shit like "nuclear deal imminent" and "Bibi, don't bomb the Iranians," and none of what he said panned out. Either Trump is retarded or everything he's been saying on this issue was a play on the Iranians. Either way, my point stands.

I really don't care for the Iranians. Please refer to my previous post ITT:
Fair enough.
lol @ the idea that being a regular in the US Politics thread on a forum founded to chronicle Chris Chandler’s :briefs: gives you any sort of sway in any discussion ever
Silence. I keel you
 
I seriously wonder what you think the point of 'staying around' in the sandpits in the original foreverwars was
It was a failure to learn the right lessons from World War II and Vietnam. You can easily occupy territory if the fighting men are already disarmed and dead or wounded, and the populace is psychologically defeated or the structure of the society stays in place and existing power structures are exploited by the occupiers. If the people are still willing to fight, organized and receiving external support, the situation is much different.

Military force is largely irrelevant to the outcome. Failing to appreciate this, and aware of the obvious American military superiority, they occupied Iraq and Afghanistan because they thought they could.
 
Iran hates America for incredibly uncomplicated and petty reasons. They want us dead because we have burgers with bacon and don't have to fast once a year for a month. There is also a degree of jealousy that Iran can trace it's history back thousands of years but is still a backwater while America is 250 years old and is the police department of the world. They sincerely hate Israel as well and our alliance with them is just fuel on the fire but if Israel disappeared tomorrow Iran would still be chanting "death to America".

I certainly have my criticisms about Israel of course, but I agree with this.

Muslims are going to Muslim at the end of the day. It's literally part of their barbaric religion to conquer. Hell, they're doing it in the West right now, and they are terrorizing people in Europe just for not being goatfuckers.

As far as civilized societies go, Israel is by far the best option in the Middle East. It's not even a question.
 
Y'know if we didn't leave their countries filled with craters and ruled by random Arabs scooped up from The DC Metro area, they might not need to come get gibs from western countries and just stay in their own, right?
There's an element of truth to the invade-invite thing, but let's not pretend the entire third world hasn't been coming for the gibs, bombed or not.
 
Certainly not sway, but there's a lot of new names in here (often with old reg dates) throwing a huge bitch fit since last night. It's honestly kinda fun seeing the spaghetti hit the wall.
same on few levels. point out onist in party actions in all.yet people not liking be hit with fish thay keeped swing aruond haha.haha old say the" all the wrold a stage all actor must play there role to a tea in all. 6 party played ther role to a t for matter at hand.
 
There were always going to be gibs and foreigners thanks to liberal white women politics.
This os fucking retarded, if you want to close off all forms of migration, fine I'm with you, but until that happens, and we continue to make these people's countries unlivable, they WILL migrate here. There's one big harm reduction measure we could do to balance this equation, but apparently that's too high level for you idiots to comprehend
 
Y'know if we didn't leave their countries filled with craters and ruled by random Arabs scooped up from The DC Metro area, they might not need to come get gibs from western countries and just stay in their own, right?
like 90% of the brownoids flooding europe do not come from countries that are (or have been) war targets of america or in conflict with israel.
pakis, pajeets, moroccans, algerians, tunisians, turks, (south) sudanese, nigerians, ethiopians, eritreans, somalis, all the other sub saharan nigger states - the israel conflict is completely irrelevant to them. they come because leftoid third world lovers literally pay them to come, and pay them to stay on the taxpayers dime. that's all there is to it. israel isn't even part of the equation here, and neither is america.
 
Iran hates America for incredibly uncomplicated and petty reasons. They want us dead because we have burgers with bacon and don't have to fast once a year for a month. There is also a degree of jealousy that Iran can trace it's history back thousands of years but is still a backwater while America is 250 years old and is the police department of the world. They sincerely hate Israel as well and our alliance with them is just fuel on the fire but if Israel disappeared tomorrow Iran would still be chanting "death to America".
"They hate us because of our Freedom!"
 
The biggest question i have is why now? They seemed to be reaching a good milestone in the negotiations, if I recall correctly. Is it because Israel jumped the gun and attacked? I feel like the back is sort of against the wall in it and Trump had no choice but to play along.
 
Doesn't Iran need to coordinate with Oman for closure? If they do I imagine the UAE, Kuwait, etc. will have them on their shit list too. Not sure why they'd even float it tbh.
I imagine it will be business as usual, where terrorist groups blow things up in the strait. Everyone knows Iran is bankrolling them but Iran denies it and no one can prove it. I believe most of that strait supplies Europe with petrol, not Russia nor China (Iran and China in particular have a rail line now) so they may continue to use Iran as a sock.
 
As far as civilized societies go, Israel is by far the best option in the Middle East. It's not even a question.
And you've lost me. Literally a country that takes in Child Molesters and rapists with open arms, and rioted at a base in outrage against the military after soldiers were charged with raping prisoners of war.

Jews aren't less depraved than Arabs, they just dress it up in a different way.
 
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