🐮 Lolcow Andrew Peter Carlson / Anaiah Carlson / Tamarlover / Xtamarlover - Jewish/Christian Wannabe Cult Leader, Stalker, Ugly af, dogfucker, mayor of spitsville

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sgetti said:
Okay, wow.

Just for funsies, I found out that Tamar's in Virginia, and I looked up what sort of shit qualifies as a misdemeanor there. Turns out it includes such lovely shit as simple assault, sexual battery, brandishing or pointing a firearm, vandalism, identity fraud, trespassing, and indecent exposure. So, you admitted to her, in a courtroom, that you'd be willing to do something like that if you felt justified.

Are you maybe starting to understand why everyone thinks you're a dangerous psycho?
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I didn't admit to her in a courtroom that I might do misdemeanors. I said that on facebook, and she brought it up in court. As for what misdemeanors entailed, when I had told her I might be willing to do misdemeanor's, I did not know the full extent of what classified as a misdemeanor. I just assume the really bad stuff was all felonies.

In addition, I also made a list of rules which I would abide by and tried to show her the rules/limits of my mission. And they were as follows:

"Rules and Limitations of the Operation:

1.I will never physically attack or assault Melinda.
2.I will never steal any material object from Melinda.
3.I will never break into Melinda’s house.
4.I will not physically follow Melinda everywhere.
5.I will not constantly message her.
6.I will never kidnap her.
7.I will never commit a felony against Melinda.
8.I will not say anything to Melinda which I do not believe is true.
9.I will not do any of these things to Melinda’s children, family relatives, or friends.
10.I will not threaten Melinda to do any of these things."
 
tamarlover said:
I didn't admit to her in a courtroom that I might do misdemeanors. I said that on facebook, and she brought it up in court. As for what misdemeanors entailed, when I had told her I might be willing to do misdemeanor's, I did not know the full extent of what classified as a misdemeanor. I just assume the really bad stuff was all felonies.

In addition, I also made a list of rules which I would abide by and tried to show her the rules/limits of my mission. And they were as follows:

"Rules and Limitations of the Operation:

1.I will never physically attack or assault Melinda.
2.I will never steal any material object from Melinda.
3.I will never break into Melinda’s house.
4.I will not physically follow Melinda everywhere.
5.I will not constantly message her.
6.I will never kidnap her.
7.I will never commit a felony against Melinda.
8.I will not say anything to Melinda which I do not believe is true.
9.I will not do any of these things to Melinda’s children, family relatives, or friends.
10.I will not threaten Melinda to do any of these things."
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Romans 13:1
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.
 
MasterDisaster said:
Romans 13:1
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.
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Remember that what you quoted is the word of man and not the word of God. So it is subject to criticism. But also notice how it says "5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake." Be subject to the government for the sake of your conscience. Which means, if being subject to the government violates your conscience, you should not be subject to it.
 
tamarlover said:
In addition, I also made a list of rules which I would abide by and tried to show her the rules/limits of my mission. And they were as follows:

"Rules and Limitations of the Operation:

1.I will never physically attack or assault Melinda.
2.I will never steal any material object from Melinda.
3.I will never break into Melinda’s house.
4.I will not physically follow Melinda everywhere.
5.I will not constantly message her.
6.I will never kidnap her.
7.I will never commit a felony against Melinda.
8.I will not say anything to Melinda which I do not believe is true.
9.I will not do any of these things to Melinda’s children, family relatives, or friends.
10.I will not threaten Melinda to do any of these things."
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Somehow the fact that you've apparently written out some sort of manifesto on your lovequest is the least surprising thing I've heard from you all day.

Also, you've already violated rules 5, 8, and 10, by your own admission.

EDIT: Meant rule 8, not 7, my bad.
 
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sgetti said:
Somehow the fact that you've apparently written out some sort of manifesto on your lovequest is the least surprising thing I've heard from you all day.

Also, you've already violated rules 5, 7, and 10, by your own admission.
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Constantly messaging is unclear what exactly "constantly" means. As for felony, I did not commit any felony. I was given a protective order for stalking, which is just a misdemeanor. And if it can be proven that I violated the protective order, that also is just a misdemeanor.
 
tamarlover said:
Constantly messaging is unclear what exactly "constantly" means.
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You know, setting up moral guidelines for yourself is kind of meaningless if you then proceed to abuse loopholes in your own moral guidelines to get away with the shit you want to do.

tamarlover said:
As for felony, I did not commit any felony. I was given a protective order for stalking, which is just a misdemeanor. And if it can be proven that I violated the protective order, that also is just a misdemeanor.
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Yeah, my bad, I meant rule 8. The one about not lying to her. Whichever way you slice it, having her ask if the account she was talking to was you, and you denying that because she made a typo in your name, is a lie. Not even a lie of omission, a lie.
 
tamarlover said:
Constantly messaging is unclear what exactly "constantly" means. As for felony, I did not commit any felony. I was given a protective order for stalking, which is just a misdemeanor. And if it can be proven that I violated the protective order, that also is just a misdemeanor.
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Wait. Have you actually been charged with stalking? Do you realise that using a communications carrier to stalk someone across state lines actually changes the nature of the legal game? There's more than one jurisdiction involved here. That she sought the protective order in her home state doesn't mean she has no other options open to her.

Your weaselling about what "constantly" means is why your undertakings have no credibility and are worthless. You create the definitions and you change them when it suits you.

You're not supposed to be contacting her at all, but she could certainly argue that posting youtubes directed at her is attempting to contact her. You're not making the offer of $150,000 to anyone except her, so you're posting that offer in the hope that she will either see it or be informed of it.

I find it curious that you're so obsessed with a woman of whom you have such a low opinion. You never say anything nice at all about her. You also never do anything nice to try to win her over. It's all threats, intimidation and punishment. She's not a person to you, she's prey.
 
repentance said:
Wait. Have you actually been charged with stalking? Do you realise that using a communications carrier to stalk someone across state lines actually changes the nature of the legal game? There's more than one jurisdiction involved here. That she sought the protective order in her home state doesn't mean she has no other options open to her.

Your weaselling about what "constantly" means is why your undertakings have no credibility and are worthless. You create the definitions and you change them when it suits you.

You're not supposed to be contacting her at all, but she could certainly argue that posting youtubes directed at her is attempting to contact her. You're not making the offer of $150,000 to anyone except her, so you're posting that offer in the hope that she will either see it or be informed of it.

I find it curious that you're so obsessed with a woman of whom you have such a low opinion. You never say anything nice at all about her. You also never do anything nice to try to win her over. It's all threats, intimidation and punishment. She's not a person to you, she's prey.
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I was never criminally charged with stalking, but I was given a protective order for stalking. There is a lower threshold needed to get a protective order for stalking than there is to be criminally charged with stalking.

As for the youtube videos, I'll let the law decide on that issue if there is a trial. The videos were all made about her, not to her. It was my hope she would eventually see the videos, but they were made in such a way that they were not directly communicated to her, and the only way she could see the videos is if she actively sought them out by going to my channel.

I have a very high opinion of her. The parts of her I love i have a very high opinion of. The parts of her I don't like, I have a low opinion of. I think you are somewhat exaggerating that I say nothing nice about her, but maybe I focus on her negative qualities too much. As for doing something nice to try to win her over, what is there to do thats nice that could have won her friendship back in your estimation? All I saw was that she made it impossible to restore friendship with her and that the only way to try to restore friendship was to go extreme with her.
 
Fangsofjeff said:
@tamarlover What does project reconciliation entail and why be so secretive about it if it's not illegal or dangerous?
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I've explained the project elsewhere in this thread. Basically, if she is not willing to give me another chance to be my friend, then when her children are adults, I will make it my mission to reunite them with their biological fathers. If she gives me another chance to be my friend, then I would not do that without her permission. So the ball is in her court. She can prevent me from doing that by giving me another chance.
 
tamarlover said:
As for doing something nice to try to win her over, what is there to do thats nice that could have won her friendship back in your estimation? All I saw was that she made it impossible to restore friendship with her and that the only way to try to restore friendship was to go extreme with her.
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Let's ignore for a moment the fact that that particular boat has sailed, struck an iceberg, and sank to the bottom of the ocean. Have you done any nice things for her? Like, even before the whole taking you to court for stalking thing. Can you think of any nice things you've done for her? If so, please share.
 
tamarlover said:
"Rules and Limitations of the Operation:

1.I will never physically attack or assault Melinda.
2.I will never steal any material object from Melinda.
3.I will never break into Melinda’s house.
4.I will not physically follow Melinda everywhere.
5.I will not constantly message her.
6.I will never kidnap her.
7.I will never commit a felony against Melinda.
8.I will not say anything to Melinda which I do not believe is true.
9.I will not do any of these things to Melinda’s children, family relatives, or friends.
10.I will not threaten Melinda to do any of these things."
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The fact that you even created this list in the first place is enough of a red flag, but I can't help that notice there is no bullet point of "I will not terrorize/inflict mental anguish upon Melinda to the point of needing a psychiatrist." And while I haven't read all of your words too carefully as you are clearly an unfortunately all-too-familiar nutjob who just doesn't heed the message to piss off, any statement regarding Melinda's mental health seems rather conspicuously absent. Another deliberate loophole for you to attempt to force your way into her life?
 
sgetti said:
Let's ignore for a moment the fact that that particular boat has sailed, struck an iceberg, and sank to the bottom of the ocean. Have you done any nice things for her? Like, even before the whole taking you to court for stalking thing. Can you think of any nice things you've done for her? If so, please share.
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I actually looked for evidence of this in the stuff he's made public and found absolutely nothing. Any "nice" things were either 100% manipulative or smoke and mirrors.

She honestly needs to compile all of this shit and get a lawyer to send a dossier on it to his parents. He admits that his parents have no idea of the extremity of his obsession and them finding out might be a wake up call for them.
 
sgetti said:
Let's ignore for a moment the fact that that particular boat has sailed, struck an iceberg, and sank to the ocean floor. Have you done any nice things for her? Like, even before the whole taking you to court for stalking thing. Can you think of any nice things you've done for her? If so, please share.
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When we were best friends, I did all kinds of nice things for her. She didn't have internet access as much during our friendship, so she always asked me to help her do things for her online. And I would do them for her without being paid. I was essentially a personal assistant of hers. I also always there for her if she needed someone to talk to about whatever she was feeling or going through. I tried to help her make important decisions in her life. I helped convince her not to join the army. I defended her publicly when people attacked her character. I wrote for her a letter of recommendation at her request in order as a reference to inform the school that she should be allowed to homeschool her children. I helped her get a rental by pretending to be her employee and I made calls for her on her behalf. I let her use my personal information as if I was her boss in order to help her convince landlords that she was financially reliable enough to make rent payment even though she didn't have a job. I helped her make one of her old websites and I made a profile for her on her request so she could keep tabs on her ex. And I sent her about 100 dollars as a birthday present in late May or early June of 2015.

Fangsofjeff said:
Holy shit. Do you have any other emails like that? That was a wonderfully horrifying read.
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If i were to guess off the top of my head without double checking, there were about 15 wonderfully horrifying emails I sent in the latter portion of 2016.
 
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tamarlover said:
I didn't admit to her in a courtroom that I might do misdemeanors. I said that on facebook, and she brought it up in court. As for what misdemeanors entailed, when I had told her I might be willing to do misdemeanor's, I did not know the full extent of what classified as a misdemeanor. I just assume the really bad stuff was all felonies.

In addition, I also made a list of rules which I would abide by and tried to show her the rules/limits of my mission. And they were as follows:

"Rules and Limitations of the Operation:

1.I will never physically attack or assault Melinda.
2.I will never steal any material object from Melinda.
3.I will never break into Melinda’s house.
4.I will not physically follow Melinda everywhere.
5.I will not constantly message her.
6.I will never kidnap her.
7.I will never commit a felony against Melinda.
8.I will not say anything to Melinda which I do not believe is true.
9.I will not do any of these things to Melinda’s children, family relatives, or friends.
10.I will not threaten Melinda to do any of these things."
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Identity fraud, vandalism, indecent exposure and threatening her with violence without going through with it don't fall under those guidelines. According to those rules it would be totally kosher to point a gun at Melinda's kids in an attempt to force her to do something or to whip our your dong and rub it on her window while her whole family watches. Heck,you said you wouldn't break into her house, but you didn't say anything about not camping on her lawn. According to those rules you could totally spraypaint "I LOVE YOU TAMAR" on her car without her consent.
 
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Fangsofjeff said:
Identity fraud, vandalism, indecent exposure and threatening her with violence without going through with it don't fall under those guidelines. According to those rules it would be totally kosher to point a gun at Melinda's kids in an attempt to force her to do something or to whip our your dong and rub it on her window while her whole family watches. Heck,you said you wouldn't break into her house, but you didn't say anything about not camping on her lawn.
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I was including threatening with violence and pointing a gun within physically attacking or assaulting as something I would never do. As for indecent exposure, I didn't explicitly rule that out, because I didn't see the need to even have to mention it as its something that didn't even cross my mind.
 
tamarlover said:
I was including threatening with violence and pointing a gun within physically attacking or assaulting as something I would never do. As for indecent exposure, I didn't explicitly rule that out, because I didn't see the need to even have to mention it as its something that didn't even cross my mind.
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But vandalism that doesn't involve breaking her things and identity fraud are kosher? Ok then.
 
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