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Should be a wild four years.

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that's exactly the conditions under which losers make war, we're incredibly fortunate that Reagan, Thatcher, and Gorbachev were sane
Did you forget that the CCCP was completely bankrupt at that time? It could barely pay its cherished WW2 veterans the measly stipends they received each month to buy bread and cat food.

And remember, this was before American oil companies taught the Russkies how to efficiently drill for oil and make gobs of money.
 
If your state has good land use policies to prevent sprawl then it doesn't matter who owns it as it may still be state owned or nature preserves or timber harvest. On the other hand if you don't have good land use policies then you end up like Los Angeles or Texas.

mother fucker

So sprawl is a direct result of automobile ownership. The thinking is

The car is the solution we just need to have everything spaced out and low density, so the car can get shit done.

The way of thinking is the car is the problem so we need to have high denisty so we can have public transportation

Then you end up with places that the worst of both fucking worlds like LA. or orange county.

@WelperHelper99 its your fucking state which model do you think would work for new communties?
 
And what were the Americans doing there in the first place?

Amazing how all those mullahs and sandniggers wouldn’t have a problem with Americans, if kikes didn’t send them off to die for Israel, eh?

Shit, imagine what the world would look like, if Israel wasn’t BEST ALLY that needed Americas help and protection constantly.

* No 9/11.
* No war on terror. Thousands of lives and a trillion dollars saved.
*No security theater bullshit every time you get on a plane.
*No billions of dollars spent on Israel every year. No more yearly billions to countries like Jordan and Egypt to bribe them to be nice to Israel.
* No Moslem terror attacks in America.

Sounds kinda sweet, no?


See, here’s the problem… It doesn’t work like that. (And nevermind the blowback of American politicians getting assassinated or Americans targeted by terrorists)

You can’t just take out one ayatollah or two. It’s a whole system. If you want any chance at changing that system, unlikely as it is, you need boots on the ground.

And we get right back to the problem of Ted Cruz being a fucking moron who doesn’t know or understand the first thing about the countries he wants to bomb.

Retard take. It doesn't matter what their justification for anything was. The fact is, they've hated us for a long time, still hate us and will likely always hate us. We're not getting Persia back.

Fucking Irans day up is only beneficial to America. Like your whole post is a fanfiction essentially.
 
mother fucker

So sprawl is a direct result of automobile ownership. The thinking is

The car is the solution we just need to have everything spaced out and low density, so the car can get shit done.

The way of thinking is the car is the problem so we need to have high denisty so we can have public transportation

Then you end up with places that the worst of both fucking worlds like LA. or orange county.

@WelperHelper99 its your fucking state which model do you think would work for new communties?
It's a big state. Depends where it is. If it's in the plains or desert, you can do anything. Sprawl or low density. Mountains are a different beast.
 
The more you think like this, the worse the problem gets. And I genuinely believe that it's easier to blame the jews or the CIA because then you don't really have to do anything. What can you do? It's a conspiracy! For the sake of the argument even if you were right and it was a jew op or a CIA op, just because somebody gives you the opportunity to act like a violent animal, doesn't mean you should.
Look, I know you're trying to convince a bunch of white ethnonationalists and alt-right ppl to see your side, but let me give you a little more nuanced view as to why Jew hate seems to be a common thing among some of these schizos, because I do think you're right that Muslims are a problem, but I think what you're not getting is when you argue with these folks, they think you're not looking at *their* big picture, and I think they're half-right. Here's my take.

First off, I'm not a /pol/tard like some these other posters, but you need to understand what their argument is in order to even have a proper conversation, and I'd like to see a rational discussion about the whole thing at some point in a format better suited for this. I'm not as terribly informed about this subject because I already am focused on other political shit, but I generally get their talking points. However, when I see some of the stuff regarding "da Juice", it turns into me from going "hmm, you might have a point" to hearing "DA JOOS RULE THE WORLD" and looking at pages-long autistic infographics of the shit ((( THEY ))) said, I peace the fuck out It turns into a rabbit hole of schizoid readings and rants and "mandatory" authors with books complaining about them. The same way the left blames straight white men for all of the world's ills with "academia" backing their stupidity.

However, sorry to be an enlightened centrist about this shit... I kinda understand the other side. As I've stated way earlier in the thread, *you cannot deny* that there's a disproportionately rich and powerful population of people who have some sort of self-hatred for their originally orthodox Jewish roots that are now embedded in Western society, especially the US. They compensate for this by funding left wing faggotry while claiming to be secular yet "culturally Jewish". Many have oodles of money to give, and most of the 'secular' Jews here in the US come from long family lines of "old money". They're in all kinds of positions of power, from government, to banking, to finance, to law, etc.

People have an in-group preference,;tribalism happens, it's in our lizard brains as humans. However, I see a lot of whites unfortunately had that socially "trained" out of them, but you can bet all the other races didn't. I don't give a fuck if Jews are a race or not, but they are their own 'group', and part of the reason why they are as successful as they are is because a lot of the ones from the Ashkenazi tribe have disproportionately high IQ and stick together and help each other out. All groups of people do this - whether it's along racial, ethnic, religious, etc. lines, but the Jews are REALLY good at collectivizing and helping each other to grow successful.

The fact of the matter is, I don't buy into the theory that it was done intentionally by some higher secret cabal of Jewish people meeting in a little room to brandish their large schnozzes together while rubbing their hands about how they will help bring on the downfall of society. Rather, I think it is a standalone complex. Secular left wing Jews of today don't form together that often (unless they're the ADL) and often benefit from the massive amounts of money that their parents and lineage has earned for them. For a lot of zoomer, millennial, and Gen X Jews, they have nothing left to do because they already have everything because of their parents' wealth and power.

What happens to a person who is hedonistic that had life handed to them on a silver platter? They try to fill the empty vacuum of their lives by being activists. That bitch from the 1960's the alt-right quotes that prothletizes the downfall of Western Society is a good example and product of that.

I think the reason why people see so many younger Jews founding and supporting far left wing causes is because they have the time and money and social power to do it, because their parents stuck to their "community" through nepotism and in-group preferences to hand down that money to the next generation. The Jews spread that woke self-hating disease quickly to themselves due to their in-group mentality and a lot of the kids of these fucks are more or less foot soldiers for the downfall of the West. Not because there is some overarching movement to destroy it, but because people are really that fucking stupid and are easily swayed by propaganda.

That doesn't spare them in any way whatsoever from being responsible for it though.

Oh by the way, another reason why people think like this is because every time someone brings up a question about ((( THEM ))) other people try to shame them for it. They get banned, they get shut down, cancelled, or ironically enough, have their bank accounts shut down (remember Kanye?).

We know Muslims are a problem, the issue here is a lot of us are tired of the United States being the "dad" that has to bail the Jew out whenever the Jew wants to wave his circumscized cock around to fight the assholes around them. The problem here is we have right wingers who are supposedly pro-Trump demanding we help Israel out of a war that has been ongoing for THOUSANDS of fucking years. The problem is the West had this hoisted upon them over 80 years ago because some morons in Britain decided to divvy up land in such a stupid manner because of their loyalty to "da Jews". And I'm sure a lot of that "loyalty" was pushed by Jews here in the West lobbying their governments to support Israel.

It's fine that you're a moderate or whatever, but you are not *them*. You can only speak for yourself. I do think some /pol/tard brained individuals in this thread have gotten so lost in the sauce that they see Jews everywhere, but the fact of the matter is a lot of people simply want nothing to do with Israel. We already have a problem with our own "home grown" Jews who are intentionally/unintentionally undermining Western civilization through their money, politics, and activism. And I think if we had a proper discussion about it in the mainstream, outside of shitposty sites like here, it would be beneficial for the success of the country I was born in - the US.

I'm of the opinion th at we pull our asses out of that shithole and stop enabling that fucking country to attack the enemies around them. We have so many problems to deal with here our administration would be spending way too much time and energy fighting wars on two "fronts".

So yes, Muslims will rape your children, stab you from the front, outbreed you like the cockroaches they are, and take over your communities from the most obvious position, straight at you from the front. But completely ignoring the fact that there is a "soft" but equally as terrifying threat from a bunch of people who think they can "improve" the world funding left wing causes and they come DISPROPORTIONATELY from one group should be something you should also be worried about. They're not at the castle gates, they already figured out how to get UNDERNEATH your gates (through them tunnels, heh heh) and sabotage you from within. It's subtle, and ignoring that comes at our own peril. It's done through subterfuge by a bunch of NPCs and activists who think they're doing a "global good" (hence the term globalists).

Anyway I'm done writing an essay. I'm gonna go find some hummus to eat.
 
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No. And his fake “Star Wars” nonsense didn’t hasten the CCCR’s demise. The Soviet Union was a hollowed out husk of a nation by the time Saint Reagan got into office. It produced almost nothing the rest of the world wanted to buy other than some inferior military equipment at cut rate prices. Meanwhile, it had to financially prop up all of its communist satellite countries as if it had the wealth of a great empire. It was essentially bankrupt and rotten at its core and it collapsed on its own.
Their war in Afghanistan probably exaturbated their problems with how many people and money they were sending to prop up their failing puppet regime there against the Mujhaideen.
 
I do blame them, but I don’t close my eyes to who opened the borders to them.
We didn't keep the borders opened we just never had real borders. It's not exactly the same thing. This means that we were never equipped to deal with mass-immigration, especially from muslim countries (but this also applies to jeets and africans). It's very complicated and very expensive to have actual borders, that actually work as borders that actually stop people from entering your country. In the past, we could just rely on the fact that we were far away from these people and coming over was complicated and expensive. The improvement in technology, in particular transportation and the rise of low costs flying meant that we closed the distance between us and them. A flight between Alger and Paris takes about two hours and cost as little as 20 euros. That's not a conspiracy, that's just how it is nowadays.

It's not specifically the jews that prevented us from acting to fix the situation, it's just that fixing the situation would have been long, difficult and expensive and it would have required a lot of logistics. Historically, the more pro-immigration people in Europe, at least in Western European countries, have been the socialists. It is true that a lot of jews are liberals and communists, however, I have lived here long enough to know that the primary people responsible for not addressing the border issue are my own people. And that's because they are retarded faggots. For decades they have argued that we simply have to let the migrants in for some vague humanitarian reason and because we owe them something because of colonization.

I think we lost our country because we didn't do anything. It was just easier to pretend we were good people trying to be helpful and that the muslims would just live with us and not cause any problems. The few people who spoke about this issue at the time when this started (in the 70's and the 80's) were branded by the entire country as nazis and bigotted idiots. That wasn't the jews telling us to think that. It was convenient to think that and so we deceived ourselves. I think trying to assign the blame to someone else or worse, blaming our own military operations for this, is a further distraction. We had a war with Vietnam and Vietnamese migrants were never as problematic as the muslims. They don't mass-rape, they don't stab old people. They don't force their dumb religion on us. This is a problem with the muslims specifically. I don't think every liberal in the country has had his mind poisoned by the jews in that regards I think they are just self destructive cowards.
 
It's not baffling at all, he's a grifter. Also he's an Indian and you've got to be wary of the rise of the Indian professional class because they look out for their own

People in America literally just don't believe the level of in-group preference Indians exhibit and how much nepotism and corruption they can bring. It's so wildly different from our norms that it seems to just short-circuit people. They can't believe the person would be so blatant so they kind of assume there must be some other reason, that the people they hire in are actually talented or something. By the time they realize it's exactly what it looks like, it's too late and the jeets are firing you.

I have only seen this stopped in its tracks once and it required someone taking the issue to HR when the virus hadn't spread too far yet.
 
Yeah, I agree with pretty much everything you said except that I would personally support any military operation against any muslim country. I don't think these people should exist because even in perfect conditions, they will fuck themselves over and then fuck shit up for everybody else. I don't think they can be contained. They are just too stupid and too dangerous. I also believe there needs to be retribution for the people they killed here but that's not your problem. I understand you feel differently because they are not constantly mass migrating to your country and raping your women. To me this is an existantial threat and it must be ended or we are finished. I get you though, you don't have to be involved in the world's affair. If I were in your position, I would probably say and think the same thing.

I sorta addressed some of the things you said in my response to the other guy.
 
Something I've noticed about people is they doom and gloom when Trump does one thing they don't like or fumbles something they throw in the towel completely while ignoring all the monumental achievements he's doing. Criticism is completely fine but Jesus have a fucking backbone.

>USAID was raped.
>Illegals being deported (imo anything above the number 0 is net good)
>Rioters getting their heads dented by the military
>Faggots and troons diving from buildings to cope
You win some and you loose some but when you win you win.
Defeatist outlooks on life is something nihilists have and nihilists belong in unmarked graves.
 
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