Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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If Via were the self-insert, we'd be seeing more of her and she'd be the one always in the right. But, with the direction of how things are going, I'm confident Via would be the one portrayed as wrong even if she was right to call her father out on being more obsessed with Blitzo than trying to make amends with her and being a responsible individual, even to a degree.

I'm betting it's Blitzo or Stolas.






Don't forget Asmodeus because Viv's humor consists mostly of sexual jokes.







This one is interesting, considering how Viv is most likely not the one making the background characters, because there seems to be a Muslim-looking imp among the Ozzie's background characters and she's even in a LITERAL HIJAB.

I am wondering if this is someone's self-insert OC that Viv included because she does that.
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I think it's best she doesn't do this to Islam. A lot of people, Muslim or not, would react violently to including Islamic stuff in there.
Yes, a lot of the people who work on this show put their "sona" in here. I don't think this one is though. Just someone wanted to make an imp wear a hijab because....diversity or something. We could have a discussion on why hellborn include Earth culture in their daily lives, but I don't think any of the people who work on this show thought deeply on it, so why should I?
 
This one is interesting, considering how Viv is most likely not the one making the background characters, because there seems to be a Muslim-looking imp among the Ozzie's background characters and she's even in a LITERAL HIJAB.
This implies there are imp Muftis who will condemn her to death for homosexual relations.
 
If Via were the self-insert, we'd be seeing more of her and she'd be the one always in the right. But, with the direction of how things are going, I'm confident Via would be the one portrayed as wrong even if she was right to call her father out on being more obsessed with Blitzo than trying to make amends with her and being a responsible individual, even to a degree.

I'm betting it's Blitzo or Stolas.






Don't forget Asmodeus because Viv's humor consists mostly of sexual jokes.







This one is interesting, considering how Viv is most likely not the one making the background characters, because there seems to be a Muslim-looking imp among the Ozzie's background characters and she's even in a LITERAL HIJAB.

I am wondering if this is someone's self-insert OC that Viv included because she does that.
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I think it's best she doesn't do this to Islam. A lot of people, Muslim or not, would react violently to including Islamic stuff in there.
>Be muslim
>Live in hell
 
At this rate, I outta question why Viv didn't pitch Hazbin to a children's network. Most of her audience are literal juveniles, she could've gotten more of a broader audience, and she might've gotten more episodes for Season 1.
Because then she can’t push in funnie swearing and sex jokes, and the pearl clutchers would actually have a point about her trying to indoctrinate their children…it might be getting to that point, actually.
 
Because then she can’t push in funnie swearing and sex jokes, and the pearl clutchers would actually have a point about her trying to indoctrinate their children…it might be getting to that point, actually.
True. I mean, Viv's 32, and she had Hazbin around for approximately a decade give or take, so if she made it a kid's show back in her early years, the stipulations and restrictions could've turn her for the better in the long run.

I mainly suggested that pondering for the last part I mentioned due to the constant "point of consideration" for Season 1's pacing being the result of it only having 8 episodes, even though majority of adult cartoons tend to have 13 episodes or less for their first seasons, where as kid shows typically get 20+ish. As I mentioned in the Viv thread, while she didn't clarify who, she was asked if she wanted to use the pilot or remake it. Understandably, she didn't want to sacrifice an episode remaking it, but I don't recall her explaining why she didn't do the former, since I doubt A24 would've deduct an episode from her. Rick and Morty has 11 episodes for Season 1 compared to subsequent seasons' 10 episodes. I presume Smiling Friends got to make the Brazil episode because the pilot didn't count despite being Episode 1. Given A24 didn't have any involvement with the pilot, I'm sure they would've let Viv make 8 new episodes, making Season 1 having 9 episodes, 4 less than the common maximum of episodes first seasons of adult cartoons usually get.
 
I think it's best she doesn't do this to Islam. A lot of people, Muslim or not, would react violently to including Islamic stuff in there.
>Be vivzie
>Hate Christianity
>put Islam into my super duper edgy indie animation series to own the christchuds
>"Heh, this'll show em' :smug: "

Later
>Loud noises outside, look out
>Mob of angry goat fuckers storming the studio like it's Constantinople
>O fuggg
>Get beheaded


The circle of life
 
Muslim-looking imp among the Ozzie's background characters and she's even in a LITERAL HIJAB.
Since it's an imp it's like "oh no see it's a hellborn they were born in hell" alongside shit like "wholesome out of place deaf child demon" but like I haven't seen any other demons with devout religious iconography. I'm guessing the reason they're in hell and not sent to heaven is "lesbian gf" therefore furthering the "only gay people go to hell" thing that's been forming.
 
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This really confirms my theory that these shows are intentionally a pied piper for confused kids. It's all over YouTube, and when it was at its peak on Amazon Prime it was just advertised ALL over the place- with a style that screams "WOW EDGY KIDS CLICK THIS".

Personally know a pre-teen cousin that one day started talking in a weird way... then it dawned on me when I was talking to her that she's trying to talk like Blitz. I talked to her parents about Helluva Boss and they were very dismissive like 'oh she wouldn't watch that'
But she had unrestricted access to YouTube...
One day I straight up said 'Do you like Blitz?' and she then rambled ON and On about Helluva. Her parents didn't seem to care at all.
Now she's barely a teen and she's telling people she's fucking pansexual. Gee where the fuck could she have picked that up?

I tried to give the benefit of the doubt that MAYBE she was digging for edgy stuff for the longest time but then I saw a SHIT TON of merch at Hot Topic. That all looked like tween/teen slop. They know what they're doing.

edit: oh yeah and she told me 'all of her friends' watched it too
 
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Vivzie's shows aren't for adults. They're for wannabe edgy kids that think being an adult is all about swearing and sex jokes.
The pilot episodes of both shows were clearly made for the newgrounds types with hazbin literally being made by them before vivzie threw everyone under the bus.
 
This really confirms my theory that these shows are intentionally a pied piper for confused kids. It's all over YouTube, and when it was at its peak on Amazon Prime it was just advertised ALL over the place- with a style that screams "WOW EDGY KIDS CLICK THIS".

Personally know a pre-teen cousin that one day started talking in a weird way... then it dawned on me when I was talking to her that she's trying to talk like Blitz. I talked to her parents about Helluva Boss and they were very dismissive like 'oh she wouldn't watch that'
But she had unrestricted access to YouTube...
One day I straight up said 'Do you like Blitz?' and she then rambled ON and On about Helluva. Her parents didn't seem to care at all.
Now she's barely a teen and she's telling people she's fucking pansexual. Gee where the fuck could she have picked that up?

I tried to give the benefit of the doubt that MAYBE she was digging for edgy stuff for the longest time but then I saw a SHIT TON of merch at Hot Topic. That all looked like tween/teen slop. They know what they're doing.

edit: oh yeah and she told me 'all of her friends' watched it too
I hope for your sack your cousin hasn't gone full theater kid like Viv yet. Also it took you until now to realize kids watch inappropriate shit online?
 
Also it took you until now to realize kids watch inappropriate shit online?
No but I think there's a difference between finding inappropriate shit online as a kid vs we have algorithms that seem to target kids has really gone mainstream
I feel like inappropriate shit finds kids rather than kids finding inappropriate shit
 
This really confirms my theory that these shows are intentionally a pied piper for confused kids. It's all over YouTube, and when it was at its peak on Amazon Prime it was just advertised ALL over the place- with a style that screams "WOW EDGY KIDS CLICK THIS".

Personally know a pre-teen cousin that one day started talking in a weird way... then it dawned on me when I was talking to her that she's trying to talk like Blitz. I talked to her parents about Helluva Boss and they were very dismissive like 'oh she wouldn't watch that'
But she had unrestricted access to YouTube...
One day I straight up said 'Do you like Blitz?' and she then rambled ON and On about Helluva. Her parents didn't seem to care at all.
Now she's barely a teen and she's telling people she's fucking pansexual. Gee where the fuck could she have picked that up?

I tried to give the benefit of the doubt that MAYBE she was digging for edgy stuff for the longest time but then I saw a SHIT TON of merch at Hot Topic. That all looked like tween/teen slop. They know what they're doing.

edit: oh yeah and she told me 'all of her friends' watched it too
Imogine moy shawk, that edgy teens would like it. Yeah, all the colours and even the "flow" of how things go would attract them. Contrary to South Park that was crass and didn't make it seem pretentious that it was to be taken seriously; hell, even the fucking disclaimer of the show says so, dating back years ago:
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No but I think there's a difference between finding inappropriate shit online as a kid vs we have algorithms that seem to target kids has really gone mainstream
I feel like inappropriate shit finds kids rather than kids finding inappropriate shit
Precisely. Reusing South Park, I never saw it as being used as a tool for "EPI" or anything like that - because it is crass and "poorly made", and the intention is the message, not to get people to think in a manner. I probably should commend Trey and Matt for at least being sensible enough.
 
Vivzie's shows aren't for adults. They're for wannabe edgy kids that think being an adult is all about swearing and sex jokes.
I'd say it's a problem with a lot of "adult" cartoons. Even shows like Final Space or Star Trek: Lower Decks needed to disguise themselves as raunchy comedies at first before they got into more serious content.
 
I'd say it's a problem with a lot of "adult" cartoons. Even shows like Final Space or Star Trek: Lower Decks needed to disguise themselves as raunchy comedies at first before they got into more serious content.
Thing is both of these shows' entire premise is a genuinely good comedy show pitch and they were blatantly intended as comedy shows before getting sucked into the badly done melodrama hole.

Hazbin hotel was blatantly meant initially as what Smiling friends ended up being of "guy of the week to help" but instead of making people smile it's "help the eternally damned reform and find jesus"
After people waited for it for years after the amazon greenlight and everyone not getting to be in it that worked on the original thing it just became "uhhh heaven... BAD? Also war criminals and real life bad guys.... Never existed? because erased instead of going to hell? Why is hell only gay rapists and drug addicts now? Fuck you! Buy our pride flag merch!

We already talked about like all the shit with hellova boss but like why the fuck is it even called hellova boss now? It's not even about the fucking goofy antics and of a dysfunctional goofy assasinate humans to send them to hell thing anymore? Does blitzo even count as a fucking boss at this point?

EDIT: Using this retread as an excuse to post this shit again
 
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