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Should be a wild four years.

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LORD IMPERATOR said:
Exactly. It makes them easier to control, as opposed to native citizen workers who can unionize.
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Just like Elon, all "business of America is business" Republicans are true believers in the myth that normal white men are unfit for work.

Contractor guy and factory floor manager dude may have unconscious motivations that are more rational, but anyone who has to listen to them go on about it every time they open their mouths can tell you that they fully buy into their own bullshit. White people are too lazy and entitled and wrecked on meth and fent to hire. They know this.

Propaganda works. Lib propaganda works on conservatives (especially).
 
The best and greatest said:
Technically we did, the people who lost the least but gained the most from the war's conclusion.
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The Russians gained the most. They took over most of Eastern Europe. Stalin got exactly what he wanted, which was worldwide communist revolution. The loss of men didn't bother him, because he was a sociopath
 
CaliforniaRaisin said:
The US forces were ejected from the area and the enemy took control of the disputed territory. Does that sound like winning to you?
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The VC waited until we left the war before making their move just like in Afghanistan. To clarify I'm not saying we won the war, just that we didn't get our asses kicked and there wasn't the will to finish it through

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Dr J said:
Russians lost 3-5 million more men than the Nazis did during the Eastern Front of WWII. Remind me who won that war again?
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Same way the N. Vietnamese where able to keep throwing bodies in the meat grinder, they had foreign support to help prop them up and be a perpetual nuisance.
 
Catgirl Tyranid said:
This is dumb, no they're not. The people bitching about their illegal workers getting deported are not same as the people advocating deportation.
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Trump and Musk are both billionaires; their biggest supporters are the rich, hence why Trump aimed to give the rich trillion-dollar tax breaks.

The rich are also the biggest employers of illegals; that is, when they're not shipping American jobs to China.

The rich shipped off many jobs to China and foreign lands, and they also hired illegals the most. They even started the practice decades ago, using illegals typically as strikebreakers to counter the growing power of unionized labor. Then Trump gives them a trillion-dollar tax break.

This is why Trump bitching about migrants is a joke. Him letting Stephen Miller run ICE is a distraction. When things start calming down, they'll bring those same illegals back into the country, because it's cheaper than hiring God-fearing American citizens who wish to be paid $15 or more per hour of labor.

Search your feelings. You know it to be true.

No-Eyed Square Guy said:
Just like Elon, all "business of America is business" Republicans are true believers in the myth that normal white men are unfit for work.

Contractor guy and factory floor manager dude may have unconscious motivations that are more rational, but anyone who has to listen to them go on about it every time they open their mouths can tell you that they fully buy into their own bullshit. White people are too lazy and entitled and wrecked on meth and fent to hire. They know this.

Propaganda works. Lib propaganda works on conservatives (especially).
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It's not that they're unfit for work; they are fit for work. It's just that their asking price is $15 or more per hour, which is something most rich assholes are unwilling to pay.
 
CaliforniaRaisin said:
The US forces were ejected from the area and the enemy took control of the disputed territory. Does that sound like winning to you?
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>Ejected

No, we facilitated a peace treaty between the South and North and left afterwards. The North, like all communist scum, went back on their word and invaded after the US had already left country and political will was too low to send US forces back to help them. The NVA never controlled the board at any point.
 
Hermann von Salsa said:
The VC waited until we left the war before making their move just like in Afghanistan. To clarify I'm not saying we won the war, just that we didn't get our asses kicked and there wasn't the will to finish it through
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I guess we're at the point where we are trying to convince ourselves that "The USA actually won in Vietnam, we just got bored". Fuckin amazing.
 
inetsone said:
Why are you posting this? Whitney Webb wrote how there was considerable evidence the administration was planning to create a "Constitution Free" zone using the 100 mile border zone to issue a state of emergency, effectively suspending the Constitution for most Americans.
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Fuck, you are retarded.

Just put your keyboard in the microwave, set it for 99:99 and press Cook, ok?
 
LORD IMPERATOR said:
Trump and Musk are both billionaires; their biggest supporters are the rich, hence why Trump aimed to give the rich trillion-dollar tax breaks.
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You what mate? Pretty much every Fortune 500 company and large institution has donated to and fundraised for Trump's opponents. His biggest supporters are not the rich, his biggest supporters are the small donor, Blue collar workers. Trump has almost no institutional support. This is why people thought, in 2016, that he couldn't possibly win the Presidency
 
CaliforniaRaisin said:
The US forces were ejected from the area and the enemy took control of the disputed territory. Does that sound like winning to you?
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there's a difference between "getting our asses kicked" and losing. The US dominated the hot war part of Vietnam it was the political nature of it (specifically the lack of will to continue it here at home) that lead to us abandoning the fight. If the US had had the political will to continue we would've won sooner rather than later.
 
Dr J said:
You what mate? Pretty much every Fortune 500 company and large institution has donated to and fundraised for Trump's opponents. His biggest supporters are not the rich, his biggest supporters are the small donor, Blue collar workers. Trump has almost no institutional support. This is why people thought, in 2016, that he couldn't possibly win the Presidency
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It really underlines what Trump said in his X interview with Elon Musk, "It's not me they are after, it's all of you. I am just in their way".
 
Dr J said:
You what mate? Pretty much every Fortune 500 company and large institution has donated to and fundraised for Trump's opponents. His biggest supporters are not the rich, his biggest supporters are the small donor, Blue collar workers. Trump has almost no institutional support. This is why people thought, in 2016, that he couldn't possibly win the Presidency
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And yet Trump gave them trillion-dollar tax breaks as opposed to actually punishing them for decimating the American working-class economy.

Again I tell you, whose candidate is Trump? Because between decimating the economies of the Red States and giving trillion-dollar tax breaks to the same people who replaced American workers with illegals and overseas Chinese sweatshop labor, it seems that Trump is rewarding those same rich fucks that you say supported the Democrats.

What message does that give? "Support my enemies, and I'll gut my own supporters while giving you a trillion-dollar tax break." No wonder both Putin and Bibi think they can walk all over Trump. The American rich are already doing the same. They funded SJW ideology and wokeness in entertainment for years, and Trump rewards them with trillion-dollar tax cuts.
 
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