Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[shinto minto]

I hope it's the latter, as such I'm not going to spoil it.

Can we just agree that Jordon picked a very cutesy font for his signature?

 

[Disgruntled Pupper]

But as we all know, by his own admission, Russel has no witnesses and no evidence.

Do people still honestly think the judge isn't going to hand-hold Rat Mouth and when it comes time say "well, obviously he didn't mean to do this" and give him ample do-overs and extensions of time to submit at least something.

On top of that, if you think judges aren't bound by the rule of law and the appropriate application of civil procedure, boy, you're not going to like juries. There are a lot of people, even in Utah, who would gladly cast a guilty vote for Josh simply because of Shit Lip's plight sperging.

 

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I assume it would be a bench trial but Russ requested a jury trial. Let's say he gets one, just for a thought experiment.
Wouldn't it be really embarrassing for the court if they had to send a bunch of jurors into their little deliberation room and they had literally fucking nothing to deliberate about? I've never been a juror before, but I assume that they have to deliberate on evidence and witness testimonies, and that docket blogposts are not admissible. But as we all know, by his own admission, Russel has no witnesses and no evidence. So what the fuck would they even do in there? If I was a juror in this situation I would be thinking why the fuck did this retard judge even bothered summoning me here for this bullshit nothingburger of a case.

• His opening statement would be a 3 hour plightsperg that has nothing to do with copyright
• Hardin would point out that this is a copyright case, not a "The retard's feelings were hurt" case, and that the dipshit will bring no evidence, no witnesses, nothing to the table. It'll be a 5 minute speech and the Jury will be relieved to not be stuck hearing another longwinded speech they'll want to find in favor of Null right then and there.
• King Coomer's big hope would be that some juror knows the name, Kiwi Farms, and wants to Punish Null for our existence. Nullification (heh) would literally be his only hope.
• Hardin probably wouldn't put forth any evidence or bring forth any witnesses, although it might be fun to bait Russ into trying to "EXPLAIN" to Null (Bonus: Hardin could object to relevancy every single time Gimpface tries to go off topic -- the only topic allowed being copyright violations -- and watch him slowly explode in spittle-rage.)
• His closing statement would be another 3 hour plightsperg that again has nothing to do with copyright
• Hardin would rightfully point out that King Coomer hasn't actually made a case for anything, and if they DO find Null guilty, that means they'll have to spend WEEKS listening to King Coomer EXPLAIN what damages are warranted for what.
• The Jury wouldn't even have to leave the courtroom to reach a verdict.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

His opening statement would be a 3 hour plightsperg that has nothing to do with copyright
Hardin would point out that this is a copyright case, not a "The retard's feelings were hurt" case, and that the dipshit will bring no evidence, no witnesses, nothing to the table. It'll be a 5 minute speech and the Jury will be relieved to not be stuck hearing another longwinded speech they'll want to find in favor of Null right then and there.
King Coomer's big hope would be that some juror knows the name, Kiwi Farms, and wants to Punish Null for our existence. Nullification (heh) would literally be his only hope.
Hardin probably wouldn't put forth any evidence or bring forth any witnesses, although it might be fun to bait Russ into trying to "EXPLAIN" to Null
His closing statement would be another 3 hour plightsperg that again has nothing to do with copyright
Hardin would rightfully point out that King Coomer hasn't actually made a case for anything, and if they DO find Null guilty, that means they'll have to spend WEEKS listening to King Coomer EXPLAIN what damages are warranted for what.
The Jury wouldn't even have to leave the courtroom to reach a verdict.

The best thing anyone can do is listen to Russ. He’s such an obnoxious little goblin. There’s something about his body language that’s really off-putting, he always comes across as having a lot of pent-up anger, and if Hardin could just let him speak for as long as he wanted to, I’m pretty sure Russ would turn a jury against himself entirely in less than half an hour.

That’s assuming they only understand half of what the idiot says.

 

[Swole McPole]

ing Coomer's big hope would be that some juror knows the name, Kiwi Farms, and wants to Punish Null for our existence. Nullification (heh) would literally be his only hope.

I'm pretty sure that any jury that heard Russell explaining his case against Kiwifarms would be signing up as members as soon as they got home from court.

 

[FamicomGorby]

Do people still honestly think the judge isn't going to hand-hold Rat Mouth and when it comes time say "well, obviously he didn't mean to do this" and give him ample do-overs and extensions of time to submit at least something.

On top of that, if you think judges aren't bound by the rule of law and the appropriate application of civil procedure, boy, you're not going to like juries. There are a lot of people, even in Utah, who would gladly cast a guilty vote for Josh simply because of Shit Lip's plight sperging.

Since Greer can't call any witnesses and can't himself testify, by agreement with Hardin, I'm pretty sure Greer would just have to immediately rest his case since he wouldn't be able to introduce any evidence without witnesses of some kind.

I would guess if it gets past discovery, if the case isn't dismissed before the stay on it is lifted, that Hardin would again file a motion to dismiss on the basis that Greer has no evidence or testimony that he could present at a trial.

 

[Ed Craven]

Is Greer even able to travel to Utah for the trial? Could he even afford the gas or a plane ticket?

 

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Is Greer even able to travel to Utah for the trial? Could he even afford the gas or a plane ticket?

Depends, if he doesn't pay extra for the whores to tickle his balls or finger his anus this week, he can probably swing it.

 

[FamicomGorby]

Is Greer even able to travel to Utah for the trial? Could he even afford the gas or a plane ticket?

He drove 14 hours to get told to fuck off by the Winnemucca city council. Vegas to Salt Lake is only a twelve hour round trip, so he could handle that

 

[.iota.]

Upcoming Deadlines

• June 4. “Attorney’s Eyes Only” email will be automatically de-designated if Plaintiff does not provide Defendants with an explanation of why the designation is appropriate under the SPO.

this is incorrect. do not expect to see this email any time soon.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

this is incorrect. do not expect to see this email any time soon.

How is it incorrect? This is exactly what Hardin said would happen in his supplemental filing.

 

[Sneedfully and Peacefully]

here are my notes on the issues pending before the Court.

June 3. Plaintiff must produce a copy of the restraining order to Defendants, who will update the Court within seven days.

So close. Before U_M stomps your ass for it, once again to remind everyone, he has to just produce his request/application for it. As far as any sleuthing goes and all facts show Greer never successfully got a RO in 2018.

That and some conflating of plaintiff/defendant and saying with the RO in particular that it's against Greer, but I understand it's a lot to compile and it's not like Hardin hasn't flubbed that himself a few times.

 

[Supplemental Authority]

this is incorrect. do not expect to see this email any time soon.

iota, I’m a bit confused about this. Mr. Hardin said this would happen in his email to Mr. Greer, but I couldn’t find any info in the SPO about automatic ‘de-designation’. Can you help me out?

once again to remind everyone, [Greer] has to just produce his request/application for [the RO]. As far as any sleuthing goes and all facts show Greer never successfully got a RO in 2018.

S&P, thanks for this clarification. I understand that Mr. Greer likely did not actually obtain a RO in 2018. However, I thought the Court ordered Mr. Greer to turn over an RO, not an RO application. Is this incorrect? I am summarizing the Court filings, not adjudicating the truth of them.

Thank you both for pointing out potential mistakes. Given how long and complicated this case is, I'm sure my notes have more. Please let me know about any mistakes (and why they are mistakes), and I'll fix them in a repost down the line. Thanks!

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

I assume it would be a bench trial but Russ requested a jury trial. Let's say he gets one, just for a thought experiment.
Wouldn't it be really embarrassing for the court if they had to send a bunch of jurors into their little deliberation room and they had literally fucking nothing to deliberate about? I've never been a juror before, but I assume that they have to deliberate on evidence and witness testimonies, and that docket blogposts are not admissible. But as we all know, by his own admission, Russel has no witnesses and no evidence. So what the fuck would they even do in there? If I was a juror in this situation I would be thinking why the fuck did this retard judge even bothered summoning me here for this bullshit nothingburger of a case.

You're not retarded enough to understand why Russ is going for the jury trial. Russ thinks if he can get in front of a jury, show them his disabled face, and explain his plights about how that poopy head Joshua Moon hosts his history of misconduct, the jury will feel sympathy for him and give him what he wants. It's a very hamhanded attempt at manipulating people into giving him what he wants.

What Russell doesn't understand, or refuses to understand, is that he has such a repulsive personality that it won't work. Josh can produce, with very little effort, evidence of him threatening to kill himself because Erica wouldn't leave Chad and be his girlfriend, of him getting assblasted at Taylor Swift because he thought he could sue her into dating him, of how he sued prostitutes who wouldn't sleep with him, of how he violated his arbitration agreement with Freemantle because he wasn't allowed to woo Heidi Klum. It would not take much effort to paint him as a vile little sex goblin.

Of course, we're talking about Joshua Connor Moon, the Internet's personal nigger. Who knows how a jury trial would go?

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Is Greer even able to travel to Utah for the trial? Could he even afford the gas or a plane ticket?

Apparently Greer is batshit scared of planes and refuses to fly; it was in his plightsperging about Florida, but has collaborating evidence elsewhere. He drives, walks, or takes the train. I don't know if we've seen Greer on a bike, but we assume mormons are always on bikes.

.iota., I’m a bit confused about this. Mr. Hardin said this would happen in his email to Mr. Greer, but I couldn’t find any info in the SPO about automatic ‘de-designation’. Can you help me out?

I think the timer is a Hardin invention; he can't just "violate" the SPO on his own accord, but if Greer doesn't respond he can then produce ANOTHER motion saying "see? Nothing. Let me post this shit."

A jury trial could result in subpoenas issued to Fatrick. Hilarity would result.

 

[filthypenguin]

S&P, thanks for this clarification. I understand that Mr. Greer likely did not actually obtain a RO in 2018. However, I thought the Court ordered Mr. Greer to turn over an RO, not an RO application. Is this incorrect? I am summarizing the Court filings, not adjudicating the truth of them.

I believe the Judge said "application" verbally, and then made the mistake in the filing. So I think you're technically correct, but I also think the Judge is expecting the application not the actual RO.

 

[DavidS877]

iota, I’m a bit confused about this. Mr. Hardin said this would happen in his email to Mr. Greer, but I couldn’t find any info in the SPO about automatic ‘de-designation’. Can you help me out?

The material in question would not be covered by the Standard Protective Order as it's not a discovery item, and discovery is stayed. Hardin is just being polite and saying "Hey, I'll accept you marking this, but you have 7 days to tell me why I shouldn't share it with my client and possibly the court."

And even if it did fall under the SPO, it still doesn't apply as it's not one of the 5 items covered. Ok, maybe 'e' when the court gets wind of the extortion request.

 

[a hapless toad]

I think iota is conflating the threatening email Greer sent Hardin with the RO application which is due tomorrow and will not be appearing here under threat of US Marshalls.

 

[Lian Xing]

For anyone else struggling to follow along, here are my notes on the issues pending before the Court.

No wonder the judges want nothing to do with this.

 

[.iota.]

iota, I’m a bit confused about this. Mr. Hardin said this would happen in his email to Mr. Greer, but I couldn’t find any info in the SPO about automatic ‘de-designation’. Can you help me out?

i can't; not yet. or at least, i can't without possibly assisting greer.

I think iota is conflating the threatening email Greer sent Hardin with the RO application which is due tomorrow and will not be appearing here under threat of US Marshalls.

i am not.