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Dawg I was down by the Best Buy yesterday and I saw something amazing.
Imagine a typical nerdy, skinny, White, permed Zoomer. Now imagine that this dude is like five seconds away from falling into conniptions because his gal, who I am not lying looked like if Gogo Tomago from Big Hero 6 was a punk in a leather and chain skirt with those boots they like, pulled him in and kissed his cheek.
My man was in a state, go him there’s hope out there me boys.
Some men drown while others die of thirst.

For those of you who are older, I ask you what is a Zoomie supposed to do in the current job market? Is the solution to go into debt for a degree and become an autist for the sake of improving shareholder value or to just put the fries in the bag? Blue collar work is an option that'll probably get oversaturated in a few years if AI cuts some more jobs, unless demand can compensate for it.
 
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For those of you who are older, I ask you what is a Zoomie supposed to do in the current job market?
2001 wagie, I had to do this advice:
Unironically the only way is through connections and hitting the pavement
I've hopped between jobs for the past few years, physically going to places and basically exhausting dialogue options from the local NPCs until they're comfortable with me, then I ask if there's work to do and the success rate is much higher than applying online. Not that online is impossible, you just need:
Don't know he exactly told what mattered or not, but he actually faked his way in by inserting those words and they didn't look over his application, despite having none of what the application asked for. He got in anyways lol.
Copy the job description/requirements, paste it in small white font so that it's invisible without highlighting it, and the computer will say you're a match. Once it gets past that, you're up to the HR game of chance, but at least you don't get filtered immediately.
Also, companies put up fake job postings all the time, so I see no moral issues with lying on a resume. If so many people less qualified than me have jobs which pay more than mine, clearly I'm playing too fairly. That's how I see it, anyway.
 
Also, companies put up fake job postings all the time, so I see no moral issues with lying on a resume. If so many people less qualified than me have jobs which pay more than mine, clearly I'm playing too fairly. That's how I see it, anyway.
I don't blame that attitude either. If companies can fib about every little thing when hiring, why can't we? Those recruiters are paid high wages to lie and waste our time with something that doesn't have to do with the job. Many of my friends have had their time wasted with phone interviews going nowhere, or when they get to an in-person interview, they get told "We'll get back to you in a few days," get ghosted and told a month later (if lucky) that they weren't the right fit. It's like cheating a bit with bullshit electives, it's all a crock of shit and they know it as well. Play their game back, and try to win at it.
 
An atheist celebrating anti natalism. I am not surprised
I am neither atheist nor antinatalist, but this ties into the post I was just about to make, so it's fine.

Zoomies of the thread, what would your ideal world order look like? Mine would focus on human health (increasing the lifespan), environmental protection, and research. Here is what should be done to this end:
Health measures:
-Make vaccine refusal illegal if you do not have a pre-existing condition. Thanks to anti-vax movements, measles is making a comeback, and other viruses will soon.
-Abolish apartments and ensure that everyone can live alone in a freestanding house. This will eliminate risk factors like contaminated air, public washing machines, and bed bugs.
-Abolish public transit save for taxis and airplanes. This is self-explanatory.
-Ban GMOs, pesticides, and herbicides. Return crops like wheat, corn, and canola to their non-modified states.
-Ban MSG, trans fat, and artificial colours and sweeteners.
-Abolish restaurants. All restaurants, from high-end local restaurants to fast food chains, use the cheapest (and often very unhealthy) ingredients available. The food having to pass through so many hands and the way the food is stored are also risk factors.
-Only allow food processing for things like nuts, beans, soups, frozen fruits and vegetables, and certain meats.
-Limit the amount of sugar beverages and pastries can have.
-Ban drinking, smoking, and drugs.
-Ensure all healthcare is publicly funded.
-Restrict psychology/psychiatry to those with truly severe conditions.
Environmental protection:
-Reduce the Earth's population to 2 billion. This will eliminate the need for EVs, which are even more unsustainable than fossil fuels.
-Make wind, water, and solar energy more accessible and ban all other forms of power plants.
-Limit space launches for the time being to prevent the atmosphere from being damaged, but launch all non-renewable waste into space (preferably into Venus).
-Tear down most public shopping spaces and build new houses and/or natural areas, and convert historical buildings into research labs. This will also combat urban sprawl.
Research:
-Abolish business departments in universities and heavily limit psychology and education departments.
-Heavily invest in all kinds of scientific research, not just engineering and medicine.
-Focus on automation, space colonization, eradicating illness, and harnessing heat energy.
 
For those of you who are older, I ask you what is a Zoomie supposed to do in the current job market? Is the solution to go into debt for a degree and become an autist for the sake of improving shareholder value or to just put the fries in the bag? Blue collar work is an option that'll probably get oversaturated in a few years if AI cuts some more jobs, unless demand can compensate for it.
Job market sucks. If you're in a blue state go for entry level public sector and work your way up. You can get somewhere and get some experience that you can then use to jump into the private sector if you want once it picks up, or you can keep working your way up if you manage to get a comfy position. Public sector jobs will probably be more resistant to AI due to laws about safeguarding PII. If you're in a red state it's going to be a grind.

One field, if you're up for physical work outside, is horticulture/landscaping. Literally every landscaping company does the same boring shit (cookie cutter shrubs and dyed mulch), so if you can get some experience and do something even a little bit different you can establish a client base and even work freelance for some very wealthy clientele who won't mind paying $30+/hour to keep up with the Joneses. Join local garden clubs/horticultural societies - many of them are just a bunch of old folks and are dying out, but they are a wealth of knowledge. Learn to identify local weeds. Find sources for rare or uncommon plants. There are a lot of free/cheap seminars at public gardens and arboretums.

Zoomies in general suck at networking. Learn to excel at it and you'll find a lot of doors opening that are closed to your peers. Spamming online applications is often pointless now that every opening (many of which are fake) is spammed by 10,000 jeet CVs. Speaking of networking, getting a gig at a country club and not acting like a sperg can be a great way to make connections with potential wealthy clientele/mentors. Church can also serve the same purpose.
 
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Zoomies of the thread, what would your ideal world order look like?
I truly have no idea anymore. Probably a time frozen in the 1890s and 1900s. I always liked the look of it, my family lived really well off back then like now. Felt like there was more adventure in that time period than what we have in the present. Maybe when pigs fly I can get a time machine. I don't try to focus on an ideal world, or a fantasyland unless I'm truly bored. It's always interesting to think about, but to obsess over it never bodes well.
 
Yeah sorry to break it to you but the only declining birth rates are those of developed western countries and countries like Japan and South Korea, meanwhile you have rampant birth rates among niggers in Africa and arabs in the Middle East. Celebrating declining birth rates as they are now is fucking retarded, unless you want to be overrun by shitskins.
Also 'convert to organic agriculture' and 'shrinking population is good' are contradictory. Organic agriculture is much more labor-intensive - you need young bodies in the field and more family farms which typically rely on large families working the land. What we should do is hermetically seal off India and Africa, let them starve or kill each other or be enslaved by the Chinese and Arabs, but they cannot leave. Deport every single foreigner back to their benighted shores - maybe we could sell them to the Arabs like the good old days. Then rebuild a real farming culture in the West using our own people. This would of course require a political sea change that I don't see happening, as the reason that we drench our food in poison and literally destroy the surplus crops or dump them in Africa to fuel an unsustainable population boom is because industrial agriculture at scale is easily subjected to corporate control by moneyed interests, while organic, local food supply chains are not.

Every antinatalist that I've met is either a sperg or a shitskin. It's just not a belief that well-adjusted white people hold. Kids don't just continue society, they also give renewed purpose to their parents and form the mortar that holds communities together. You'd have to be an antisocial sperg or jeet (but I repeat myself) to not recognize that.
-Make vaccine refusal illegal if you do not have a pre-existing condition. Thanks to anti-vax movements, measles is making a comeback, and other viruses will soon.
Another FYI for zoomies: measles is not a serious disease. The scary news stories about it are comical to anyone from older generations. This is how people talked about the measles back when everyone got them:


The idea that the measles is some hellish murder-plague straining at failing constraints, just waiting to consume us all is ridiculous and, if you believe it you just look retarded to most people. The cited CDC death rate of 1 in 1,000 is arrived at by taking that amount of reported cases back in the day and comparing it to the number of deaths due to complications, even though it's well-known that the vast majority of measles cases went unreported. Real number is basically on par with influenza with pneumonia complications factored in, with the difference being that you get measles once in your life but can get the flu every few years. The most dangerous ages for measles are also younger than 5 and older than 20 - back in the day most kids caught it at school, during the age range when it caused the least concern. Edited to avoid double-post.
 
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I just wonder how some of my former students are doing. My first years of teaching were millennials and some of them I see every so often on Facebook. I have no idea what's going on with my zoomies after I started a different career since they're on different platforms. Even though teens have always been retarded, lazy, and stupid, my zoom zooms were so...pitiable? Like, I was genuinely worried about what they were going to do next after walking across the stage to get their diplomas. So fragile. Actually beyond lazy, so lazy that doing things looked like it hurt. Attention spans of 30 seconds or less. A student would call me over to help, I'd say three words and they were already twitching, looking elsewhere, and then nodding uh huh uh huh but what do I write in the blank? It was really bad. I can't imagine how they function as adults. On the other hand, the zoomers who were raised right and gen alpha who have savvier parents (it's still bad out there I know) are going to have very little competition.
 
as the reason that we drench our food in poison and literally destroy the surplus crops or dump them in Africa to fuel an unsustainable population boom is because industrial agriculture at scale is easily subjected to corporate control by moneyed interests, while organic, local food supply chains are not.
You said that decreasing the population would make organic agriculture impossible, but that industrial agriculture developed in part to fuel an unsustainable population boom. A global population of 2 billion could be fed from family farms alone. Automation could also help make organic agriculture more feasible, combined with the fact that a smaller population means fewer farmhands are necessary.
Every antinatalist that I've met is either a sperg or a shitskin. It's just not a belief that well-adjusted white people hold. Kids don't just continue society, they also give renewed purpose to their parents and form the mortar that holds communities together. You'd have to be an antisocial sperg or jeet (but I repeat myself) to not recognize that.
Yes, but do you understand the consequences of sustaining 8 billion people? How do you think 10 billion people could be sustained? I'm not speaking at a social level; I'm speaking in terms of preserving and allocating natural resources. Good luck forging communities and having purpose when most habitable land is either flooded or too hot for humans and we all have to live in mega apartments or dense slums like in China and India, two countries with wildly out-of-control populations.
 
You said that decreasing the population would make organic agriculture impossible, but that industrial agriculture developed in part to fuel an unsustainable population boom. A global population of 2 billion could be fed from family farms alone. Automation could also help make organic agriculture more feasible, combined with the fact that a smaller population means fewer farmhands are necessary.
It didn't. We produce far too much food, to the point where we actively subsidize its destruction. Food is transported in ways that are highly fuel inefficient and make no sense. Food policy/industrialization has zero to do with feeding people, it has to do with control. Whatever mode of agriculture can be subjected to corporate control is the one which is pushed. We could have continued feeding our population healthy, locally grown food easily.

You look at photos of the area I grew up in just 50-60 years ago and it was around 80% farmland that fed local people. Most of that farmland was allowed to go fallow, and what was left is now planted to soy that gets shipped to China and feed corn that gets shipped to Texas. When my parents were growing up local restaurants were selling two-inch-thick ribeyes for a pittance made from cows pasture-raised a mile from the local inn and processed at the local butchershop, now all our meat is raised in feed lots on the other side of the country and processed in giant hellish abattoirs before being sold to super markets. Everyone I know who was alive back then paid less as a portion of their paycheck for food and had large families. The difference is that a million local butchershops, a million local cattle farms, and a million local markets cannot be owned by absentee investors who extract dividends from them because they are tuned to local markets and operate in different ways. In order for these spheres of commerce to fuel investor profits instead of local business profits, they need to be scaled up and standardized and the local outfits need to be choked out like weeds. That process is what drove agricultural consolidation while poisoning our food and increasing production to levels which were actually so unsustainable that we use the glut of corn to make ethanol to keep the price high enough for farming to even be profitable.

Anyone who has tried to do organic farming knows that it is more challenging to automate. It specifically requires a human to be observing the crops and exercising their judgment to replace things like broad spectrum fungicides, herbicides, and insecticides. It often requires specifically tailored interventions that are anathema to automation, as mechanization requires a standardized approach to be economical. Airflow in an orchard/vineyard, for example, is extremely important for managing disease pressure, which means that you need to plant in a way which prioritizes those considerations over accessibility to mechanized pickers. Organic formulations need more complex rotations to avoid things like copper buildup in the soils, and these more frequent interventions also mean that mechanized spraying becomes problematic - a big concern is subsoil compaction due to frequent machine passages during rainy weather - when things like silica need to be sprayed to combat fungal outbreaks. A feedlot is easily mechanized - pasture feeding is very difficult to mechanize. There are a hundred little ways in which organic farming requires more hands on deck overall.

Yes, but do you understand the consequences of sustaining 8 billion people? How do you think 10 billion people could be sustained? I'm not speaking at a social level; I'm speaking in terms of preserving and allocating natural resources. Good luck forging communities and having purpose when most habitable land is either flooded or too hot for humans and we all have to live in mega apartments or dense slums like in China and India, two countries with wildly out-of-control populations.
I'm sure it will cause huge dysfunction in dysfunctional cultures. Let them squabble. Let them starve. Let them die. White people are a tiny fraction of the global population and that fraction has been shrinking for decades. Europe is by no means overpopulated if you eliminate the recent influx of genetic dross. The same applies to America to an even larger degree. We're an enormous continent with plenty of land. The vast majority of land in North America will not be underwater even if every speck of ice on earth melts. Global warming isn't really something I'm concerned about - it's a double-edged sword that will also see extended growing seasons in cooler areas to offset other issues like desertification. It is a slow-moving disaster which can be adapted to. Indians leaving India is not. If your idea of population control is nuking the subcontinent, I'm all for it. If it's white people not having kids, I'll pass.
 
I just wonder how some of my former students are doing. My first years of teaching were millennials and some of them I see every so often on Facebook. I have no idea what's going on with my zoomies after I started a different career since they're on different platforms. Even though teens have always been retarded, lazy, and stupid, my zoom zooms were so...pitiable? Like, I was genuinely worried about what they were going to do next after walking across the stage to get their diplomas. So fragile. Actually beyond lazy, so lazy that doing things looked like it hurt. Attention spans of 30 seconds or less. A student would call me over to help, I'd say three words and they were already twitching, looking elsewhere, and then nodding uh huh uh huh but what do I write in the blank? It was really bad. I can't imagine how they function as adults. On the other hand, the zoomers who were raised right and gen alpha who have savvier parents (it's still bad out there I know) are going to have very little competition.
It truly depends, some get by on dumb luck, or trustfunds, the latter especially being me. I am also worried about how other zoomers will do when learned helplessness is ingrained in them. The local public schools aren't helping either when they are bumping failing grades to passing grades, and banning giving zeros, and the disastrous inclusion policies where elementary school aged gen alpha are scared of attending when a violent tard wrecks the classroom. A kindergartener should not be scared of attending school because of one or two disruptive classmates. For your students, it will be split in half. The ones who didn't give a shit and wouldn't motivate themselves for anything are working somewhere dead end, or never bothered to do anything. The ones who actually tried and were willing to learn are hopefully somewhere better.

For any of the most successful zoomers where I live, they try to leave fast as possible and head to other states, but many always wind up returning because of the cost of living being that bad over there too. The ones who weren't successful yet are self-motivated are doing their best, and I can see them doing better. For anyone who didn't try and are not successful? Well, they are probably snorting pills. I try to be careful about the snorting pills part, because I sadly knew a few successful zoomers and younger millennials getting hooked and/or overdosing.
 
I was born in 2007, I just turned 18 a few months ago and my god, I'm so fucking scared of the future...
Why are you scared?
@Space Police
My ideal world would be one where we are not bothered for the way we live, and it's one based on honesty and sincerity. There would still be laws of course, but it would be for the common man and not for the average Jew. I would be allowed to say "fuck niggers" and wouldn't get punished for it by the police.
 
>More and more brownskins on the cities i'm usually in, even some small towns
>Degeneracy is becoming more and more normalized
>Faggotry and troonism are becoming more and more normalized
>People are getting more and more dumber
>Entertainment (cinema, tv shows, music, videogames) are becoming more gayer and retarded
>Almost everything is becoming more and more expensive.
>I can't afford renting a home at least where I live
>New cars and even used cars are becoming more expensive, a fully functioning shitbox from 20 years ago or even older doesn't go down from the 2000 euros.
>Having a job is becoming more and more harder, most of the jobs i'm interested in are becoming replaced by Indians and AI.

Idk, maybe I'm just too pessimistic but the future or at least from what i'm seeing in my life doesn't look too bright.
 
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I see no moral issues with lying on a resume.
Im in the same boat. For me its fair game.
Theres so many hoops and personality tests and games to APPLY for a fucking internship these days I don't understand how people get jobs applying cold.

You lie on your job board requirements? Im gonna lie on my resume.
You use AI to screen your candidates and conduct interviews? Im using Cluely and ChatGPT in my interviews.

I had a job interview that used HireVue where you don't even speak with a human first, it gives you questions and then you record yourself answering them like a fuckin' tiktok. Fortunately, they had jeets write the code so I could see the questions ahead of time if I just opened up inspect element. I got the position but damn was it humiliating and demoralizing.
 
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