Mass Effect Andromeda: Shitstorm Edition - RIP Biowear

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People have been wanting to make their own Asari/Turian/Krogan/Quarian (hey, you might even get to see those lazy fucks model it!) Since before 3 came out. It really was the next logical step. You didn't really need 5 different voice actors. You just needed 2 and you could modulate them. But that would have required more than the what, C-team, to do it. And it would have made tons more money and be praised by everyone for being new.

Shit, you could even make it 'progressive' but nerds would be too busy staring at Asari tits to complain. But nope, gotta make it shitty as well.
 
Secret Asshole said:
People have been wanting to make their own Asari/Turian/Krogan/Quarian (hey, you might even get to see those lazy fucks model it!) Since before 3 came out. It really was the next logical step. You didn't really need 5 different voice actors. You just needed 2 and you could modulate them. But that would have required more than the what, C-team, to do it. And it would have made tons more money and be praised by everyone for being new.

Shit, you could even make it 'progressive' but nerds would be too busy staring at Asari tits to complain. But nope, gotta make it shitty as well.
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It is not like nerds love girl on girl, riiiiight?


Here is the quest where you play Sherlock Holmes's autistic replacement.
 
You know what the most grand representation of the awful writing is for me? Ryder wearing the fucking N7 emblem. N7 is the Systems Alliance designation for the highest grade of Special Forces, and it's intimately associated with Shepard because he's the most legendary N7. EA even blew it up into a logo for the series. But my understanding is that the Andromeda effort was funded by some crazy billionaire and that Ryder is just a random idiot who couldn't be less qualified to wear it.

It's amazing that they botched such a small and important piece of lore. They were obviously trying to crib Shepard's image to promote the game, but it has the hilariously ironic effect of making Ryder look less like Shep and more like Conrad Verner (who by the way is a character that Shepard could fucking shoot for prancing around in imitation N7 gear.)

Ryder is literally stolen valour. :jaceknife:
 
RJ MacReady said:
You know what the most grand representation of the awful writing is for me? Ryder wearing the fucking N7 emblem. N7 is the Systems Alliance designation for the highest grade of Special Forces, and it's intimately associated with Shepard because he's the most legendary N7. EA even blew it up into a logo for the series. But my understanding is that the Andromeda effort was funded by some crazy billionaire and that Ryder is just a random idiot who couldn't be less qualified to wear it.

It's amazing that they botched such a small and important piece of lore. They were obviously trying to crib Shepard's image to promote the game, but it has the hilariously ironic effect of making Ryder look less like Shep and more like Conrad Verner (who by the way is a character that Shepard could fucking shoot for prancing around in imitation N7 gear.)

Ryder is literally stolen valour. :jaceknife:
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Especially as it was Alec Ryder (the father) who attained an N7 rank. Did Scott, Sara or Shaun earn it too? As far as I know, no. They just took it after Daddy died.
 
RJ MacReady said:
but it has the hilariously ironic effect of making Ryder look less like Shep and more like Conrad Verner (who by the way is a character that Shepard could fucking shoot for prancing around in imitation N7 gear.)
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As an aside, Conrad Verner's sister crops up in andromeda. The brief interaction with her is everything you'd expect.
 
In their effort of trying to please everyone, Bioware ended up pleasing no one.

CWCissey said:
You know how stupid that article is?

:autism:The Turians are the most powerful military force in the Milky Way:autism:
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Wasn't the Asari world one of the planets that fell to the Reapers in ME3?
 
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Honeybunny said:
I guess even asari aren't exempt from being shitlord'd (http://archive.is/l65Nw)
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[[transcript since holo-Jien insisted on talking over them:
asari: Yes, the gender binary of other races is irrelevant to us.
angara: I’ve been using feminine pronouns this entire time. Should I-
asari: In my case it’s fine to continue. Thank you for asking, I appreciate it. Some asari prefer male pronouns, while others gravitate toward gender-neutral where language allows.
angara: My people have several pronouns to identify themselves with. Perhaps I should prepare a document.
asari: Please do.]]
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This boils down to a power fantasy for genderspecial snowflakes. The "perhaps I should prepare a document" line sounds like a direct reference to people who list a million bullshit terms on their tumblr profile in a desperate attempt to be interesting.
 
Isn't this wole pronoun nonsense regarding Asari actually pretty anthropocentric itself? Why would the single-sex species even worry about such things as gender identity.
 
Mater Lachrymarum said:
Isn't this wole pronoun nonsense regarding Asari actually pretty anthropocentric itself? Why would the single-sex species even worry about such things as gender identity.
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They wouldn't. Asari wouldn't really have the concept of a male gender. Because, you know, it doesn't even exist for them. Like, at all. Technically, the 'father' of the Asari could be female, but then they probably wouldn't even think of it in that fashion. Technically, species that reproduce by parthenogenesis are asexual (budding, bacterial fission, etc.). In fact, the asari are much like bacteria in this respect. Asari on Asari = Asexual splitting in bacteria, Asari on other Species = Bacterial Conjugation (Still no gender, but an exchange of genetic material).

Its even likely that Asari wouldn't even have the concept of gender in their culture, let alone giving two shits about pronouns. The only way they would get the concept of male and female is by meeting other species, and even then them using it would only be for the benefit of other species to try and understand them.

Lazuli said:
"uhhhh the reapers ate everyone else" - Mac Walters
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Mac Walters is so fucking terrible as well as fucking retarded. He was completely willing to burn a setting to the ground for no apparent reason.
 
Mater Lachrymarum said:
Isn't this wole pronoun nonsense regarding Asari actually pretty anthropocentric itself? Why would the single-sex species even worry about such things as gender identity.
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Let alone the fact that the pronouns being used are human terms.

I mean, I'm all for inclusion in games, but this sort of subtle-as-a-sledgehammer approach is laughable. They're not trying to build on the universe with a cool bit of fluff dialogue, it's borderline fourth wall breaking.
 
Yeah, gender for Asari does not even make sense. Heck I'm just a regular human from Hungary and we do not have gender pronouns, but three pronouns for second person "you" that give different shades of politeness and familiarity.

Why the heck would the Asari, a genderless alien race, even bother with it? I would think they would go along with "she" because that's what most other races percieve them to be.

So basically I'm more alien than Asari? Good to know , ayyy lmao.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genderless_language

So Japanese and Chinese are more alien than Asari too? The more you know!
 
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