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Among Us Gaming said:
As an example, the Spinosaurus in Jurassic Park 3 was based on 2 fossils, 1 of which was destroyed in WWII, and one of which was a skull fragment. Spino is actually a fantastic example of this issue, as you can see how its been through like 5 different iterations of "this is what we think it was like" in the past decade.
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When you educate thousands of paleontologists each year then they have the option of becoming educators themselves, internet clowns, or writing academic papers where you just make shit up.
 
Übertroon said:
writing academic papers where you just make shit up.
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Not quite.
In paleontology, its either writing papers (legit or not, mostly legit) or, describing fossils.
Papers vary, but typically their content is describing what species/family/phylla/etc a creature belongs to, guessing at a size, investigating feeding habits, etc. (For example in a recent study, those therein studied a bunch of white shark skeletons to develop a vertebrae-to-size-ratio and then applied it to megladon)
A fossil description is where a paleontologist looks at a given fossil, and formally and scientifically describes it (it has these bones it in this condition, we think it was [x] age, died in [x] way, etc.)

The problem with paleontology, is that at the end of the day, its guesswork. Talented and educated guesswork maybe, but guesswork. When you account for the fact that most fossils consist of very few bones (that previously mentioned spino fossil is like 20 bones of 200 some total), and that there is no flesh, the discipline of paleontology is a lot more guesswork than they're willing to admit. Things change so often, not because the field is full of hacks, but becuase its just a bunch of educated guesses. What complicates things is that dinosaurs have no real living analogs; even crocodiles are more distant cousins than anything close. Whereas we can look at elephants to get an idea as to how mammoths may have lived, or modern day monitor lizards to understand how megalainia may have lived, we have nothing to guess at dinosaurs.
 
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KingLiberty76 said:
Around 9/11 I will always read forums from the day it happened such as SA and Newgrounds even though you cant hear the voices while reading you just know the people typing are both confused and terrified.

edit: found the newgrounds thread. and the SA thread too
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Seeing the forums shows how terrified people can be but also how they could come together in solidarity. I do wish we see a return to the old watermarks like "Demon Love Army" and "Black Science Institute", those were fun.
 
KingLiberty76 said:
Around 9/11 I will always read forums from the day it happened such as SA and Newgrounds even though you cant hear the voices while reading you just know the people typing are both confused and terrified.

edit: found the newgrounds thread. and the SA thread too
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I am now in a real rabbit hole when it comes to 9/11.
I remember seeing the amazing "9/11" documntery that is from 2002.
Containts the only clear footage of when the north tower is hit.
 
>IMPLYING said:
Speaking of Christianity, here's Wendigoon covering the cult/Christian sect led by Jan van Leiden
https://youtube.com/watch?v=F-8TMhbKAuA
Jack Rackham has also done a video on them. Much shorter and simplifies the cult's whole deal as being proto-Communists.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mP8hyAv50i8
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I wonder, does anyone think it’s possible these type of anabaptists could have survived until modern day had things gone differently? I’m more inclined to think no but I’m curious to hear you all think

(less then 10 minutes in and he is doing the Voltaire meme)
 
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Justsomecicada said:
I wonder, does anyone think it’s possible these type of anabaptists could have survived until modern day had things gone differently? I’m more inclined to think no but I’m curious to hear you all think
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As is, I sincerely doubt that revolutionary Anabaptists had much hope of enduring beyond the first century of peasant revolts. The fact that they actively revolted against both Catholic and Protestant rulers meant that nobody would tolerate them and worked to suppress them hard, which is why the moderates fled to the Americas. From there, they have only survived so long due to the government not caring to force them to join society until the last century, and at this point they risk falling apart due to their insular nature making them as genetically fucked as Muslims.
 
Flaming Insignias said:
As is, I sincerely doubt that revolutionary Anabaptists had much hope of enduring beyond the first century of peasant revolts. The fact that they actively revolted against both Catholic and Protestant rulers meant that nobody would tolerate them and worked to suppress them hard, which is why the moderates fled to the Americas. From there, they have only survived so long due to the government not caring to force them to join society until the last century, and at this point they risk falling apart due to their insular nature making them as genetically fucked as Muslims.
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That's really only the Old Order Amish and Mennonite communities however. Most Amish and Mennonites and up to date with technology but still adhere to their Anabaptist origins. Also, Amish-made goods are great.

There's a neat little story behind some obscure colored Pearl Harbor footage. The actual footage itself doesn't show much, but it helped illustrate to me how terrifying it must have been in person a lot better than all the black-and-white photos ever have. Probably the moment in US History after 9/11 that can be considered a SHTF moment.
 
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Rome's rightful successor said:
I remember @Corpun brought up this subject once before.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RpWN_CsuiRc
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A lot of museums are falling for this madness of hiding human remains too. It's all done with 'respect' in mind but none of this existed before 2020. The Penn Museum used to showcase this crushed skull of a Babylonian male, shit was totally flat, now they just show a shitty image where it was displayed. They had a few others and I am wondering what they plan to do when the new Egyptian Wing opens up in about a year considering they have one of the most extensive collections of mummies on the East Coast.

As for archaeology, I've heard a lot of horror stories of some of the people who have graduated and gone into the field I can share. Most of it relates to all the laws surrounding Native American sites and how those are exploited.
 
Corpun said:
As for archaeology, I've heard a lot of horror stories of some of the people who have graduated and gone into the field I can share. Most of it relates to all the laws surrounding Native American sites and how those are exploited.
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As a Native American, a lot of those strict laws, like taking rocks from federally designated lands deemed "Native burial grounds" are used by the feds to essentially shake institutions down for fine money, mafia style.

Heck, the movie the Maze Runner got fined millions, due its set not properly behaving on what I believe were Pueblo ancient burial grounds (although in that case an actor allegedly stole an arrowhead...than got into an accident & suffered from severe brain damage. So um, maybe some real misconduct went down if folks were getting cursed...)
 
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