US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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So yeah, they really really really want to either figure out the livestreaming, youtuber personality model (and you'll see an increasing attempt at artificial soy based corporate friendly vtuber-like corptubers going forward) or failing that, turn your vidya into a goyslop indoctrination machine so when it's time for you to heckin' recongnize stunning and brave pedo rights or what batshit insane thing they'll demand we accept next, your video games will be how they convince you to agree with it.
I don't know if that'll work. I think we're already seeing backlashes against this sort of thing in the vtubing sphere (not to mention culture in general). Not to mention, there is probably a pretty big overlap between gamers and vtuber fans
 
I don't drink soda so maybe my perspective is skewed but why is it so critically important that we continue to fund America's crippling landwhale epidemic via subsidized sugar water?

I keep seeing people fucking whine about that more than anything else in the big beautiful bill.
I haven't had a soda since 2014. Even then I only drank like half of one when I ate dinner. I switched over to black cherry seltzer a year or two later. I mostly drank water before giving up the soda. Once in a while I will get some Ocean Spray strawberry and white cranberry juice.

The problem isn't the soda and fat people. It's the political impact of it. It will cost the Republicans the midterms and depending on the damage done it could mean they will lose in 2028. People voted against the Dems because they went overboard now the Republicans are doing the same shit. Cutting medicaid and trying to tell people what they can do in the privacy of their own homes. It didn't take the Republicans long to fuck up. They can't help themselves. They are basically doing shit that didn't really need to be done. It's not going to stop people from getting the unhealthy junk food. It doesn't stop people from buying cigarettes with SNAP bennies it won't stop someone from getting a soda and bag of chips.
Was this post an attempt to make some avant-garde art? I mean you have distilled the pure essence of retardation into a post. It's beautiful.
Ok faggot.
 
Your knowledge of PC's and hardware is about as Boomer tier as your takes on politics.

Yes it has a Ryzen 3700X. It's still functions. Why would I need a new CPU when the one I have still works fine?

No dumbass my motherboard has PCIe 4.0. Go learn about PC hardware instead of looking like a newb retard.
A 3700 in the day of our lord? The ryzen 3000 series was mid at best and is bottlenecking your entire build. But what do I know? I've only built 3 PC'S in the last year alone.
 
A 3700 in the day of our lord? The ryzen 3000 series was mid at best and is bottlenecking your entire build. But what do I know? I've only built 3 PC'S in the last year alone.
Yes, Boomer please tell me about how my PC runs. It isn't bottlenecking anything. All my games run fine. Just not the ones with shit optimization. Looking at you STALKER 2.

It's a CPU from 2020. It's only 4 years old. It's not a CPU from a decade ago. Like I said learn something about PC's and PC hardware. You sound like a fucking moron. LOL
 
They see that the federation is a post-scarcity post-capitalism society and because they cannot separate fiction from reality they think no conservative can enjoy it, whether just reading on a surface level and enjoyinh the cool spacefights or just seeing the scenario of star trek for what it is, a fantasy future akin to lord of the rings. Star Trek is not an ideological thesis on the shape of society and anytime someone starts looking at it too closely it starts falling apart. What exactly makes everyone start pursuing enlightenment among the stars instead of abusing drugs and substances? What's the incentive for people to train in the naval academy, enroll in mundane work like administration when doing nothing gets you the same result? You have people now that have all their needs met and still engage in destructive tendencies. As much as the later star treks suck, they will end up bringing in modern day problems because that's the only way to visualize what that society would look like.
Star Trek was kino when it actually tackled issues with frightening accuracy.
When the writers understood the setting and then "looked back" into "our world", it made those episodes timeless. Modern writers can only write about what they see around them, not hypotheticals.
 
They see that the federation is a post-scarcity post-capitalism society and because they cannot separate fiction from reality they think no conservative can enjoy it, whether just reading on a surface level and enjoyinh the cool spacefights or just seeing the scenario of star trek for what it is, a fantasy future akin to lord of the rings. Star Trek is not an ideological thesis on the shape of society and anytime someone starts looking at it too closely it starts falling apart. What exactly makes everyone start pursuing enlightenment among the stars instead of abusing drugs and substances? What's the incentive for people to train in the naval academy, enroll in mundane work like administration when doing nothing gets you the same result? You have people now that have all their needs met and still engage in destructive tendencies. As much as the later star treks suck, they will end up bringing in modern day problems because that's the only way to visualize what that society would look like.
The point of Star Trek wasn't really to show how to solve all those problems, it was to show how nice it would be if we did solve them. The sci-fi premise it examines is deliberately utopian which gives people a future to strive for. The in universe answer to how we get there was by having genocidal nuclear world wars led by transhuman warlords. It wasn't trying to get us to try that out.

Why do conservatives like it? Well, it imagined the military positively as a force for peace, defense, and progress. It depicted the military as staffed with people of high character, intelligence, professionalism, and strength. It depicted characters standing up for reason and law and order. It promoted educating and taking care of children and teaching them to try and follow a code of morality. It encouraged kids to be interested in science and engineering and the military. The assumption that a conservative couldn't like a non-capitalist society when it is a society with nearly limitless resources and energy springs from an assumption that conservatives are too dim to understand the entire concept of science fiction is to examine a "What if?" Capitalism can't value things when everything really is free. It didn't cease to exist ideologically, it ceased to exist practically. Why would heaven need a stock market?

The woke on the other hand really can't grasp a "What if?" scenario. Every show has to be depiction of right here and right now in the America they imagine no matter when and where it's set. Anyway, this whole conversation is just an unnecessary derail away from Captain Planet.
 
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They see that the federation is a post-scarcity post-capitalism society and because they cannot separate fiction from reality they think no conservative can enjoy it, whether just reading on a surface level and enjoyinh the cool spacefights or just seeing the scenario of star trek for what it is, a fantasy future akin to lord of the rings. Star Trek is not an ideological thesis on the shape of society and anytime someone starts looking at it too closely it starts falling apart. What exactly makes everyone start pursuing enlightenment among the stars instead of abusing drugs and substances? What's the incentive for people to train in the naval academy, enroll in mundane work like administration when doing nothing gets you the same result? You have people now that have all their needs met and still engage in destructive tendencies. As much as the later star treks suck, they will end up bringing in modern day problems because that's the only way to visualize what that society would look like.
I genuinely don’t understand how someone can think “post scarcity” is within the realm of possibility.

Scarcity existed before us, it’ll exist after us, shit it probably exists in heaven too. It’s universal. A fact of life. Natural law.
 
Maybe you can build him a shiny new Threadripper rig then. Those are like ten bucks, right? :story:
>glances at my 2700x/1660 build that still works well enough for everything I play

No sense upgrading if it works for what you do. No way I can justify an upgrade, especially when I'm still gaming at 1080p lol
 
I'm often reminded of the arrogance of a lot of modern Star Trek fans who legitimately think that Conservatives in general can not be a fan of this franchise. It's really fucking weird.
that's like saying you can't be a fan of the lord of the rings unless you're a monarchist
 
What exactly makes everyone start pursuing enlightenment among the stars instead of abusing drugs and substances? What's the incentive for people to train in the naval academy, enroll in mundane work like administration when doing nothing gets you the same result?

The world of star trek has always been schizo about this. The polite has dr crusher saying "charge it to the crusher account" at the farpoint station.

Riker does a trade offering some kinda bio gell.

Trade happens.

That butch lesbian tasha yar comes from a planet whose goverment collapsed and had drug fuel rap gangs.

As for the answer to your other question. its easy alien pussy
 
The world of star trek has always been schizo about this. The polite has dr crusher saying "charge it to the crusher account" at the farpoint station.

Riker does a trade offering some kinda bio gell.

Trade happens.

That butch lesbian tasha yar comes from a planet whose goverment collapsed and had drug fuel rap gangs.

As for the answer to your other question. its easy alien pussy
DS9 has entire episodes based around trade, both legal and otherwise. Post-scarcity doesn't magically mean everyone HAS everything easily, it means everyone can GET everything easily. Anything can be manufactured but it still needs delivered.
 
"They're not owed an argument"

And this is why the left will lose. They refuse to actually explain their position to outsiders; they refuse to convert people. If you're not already part of the club, you're not taken seriously; you're condescended to, or ignored.

Well I hope the 'you can't sit with us' strategy works for them because meanwhile Trump is like 'hey you can sit with me if you want.'
It isn't that they refuse to explain, more so they want to (for lack of a better word) preach to outsiders without any sort of push back. Which is why they are so determined to hold onto their control of education at all levels. Children aren't equipped to either reason why leftism is bad, or to have the life experience if they can't reason it out. Where else but the school house are they going to be able to have access to other people's children for several hours a day without the parents around? Forcing tele school from home during covid really fucked them up once enough parents started hearing just what was being taught.

What would you do if you found out you were 1% Jewish?
Nothing, it would change absolutely nothing about me, and to me at least, the important bit on the "I'm not white, I'm jewish" bullshit is how you perceive yourself. Those kikes being called out see themselves as jews first, white second. As if being "white" is a group they can opt into and out as is convenient. Which frankly speaks to their leftist beliefs that "white" is a social construct, and not a racial reality.

Part of the problem we have with, and had historically with, who is and isn't white is more a matter of who is American, non-American, and brown. Like its funny to joke Italians aren't white, but they clearly are. I think because America is a product of so many different Europeans, its hard to have really distinct idea of being English or being French, or so on. Like when the Italians, Germans, Poles, various Slavs came over in the late 1800s, there was already a steady mixing of English, Scots, Irish, Welsh and some French. That ESIWF was "white" whereas everyone else that wasn't strictly Germanic was "not-white" but clearly not "brown." It would have been better if the people of that time made the distinction between people of the British Isles and continentals. However, I can see how a bunch of Americans would prefer not to call themselves "British", but there isn't a better word (that I know of) for it.

I think the problem of solving who is and isn't "white" is really a matter of making American into a proper ethnic identity as English, Irish, Welsh or Scots is. That easily could have been done over a 100 years ago to today if we hadn't tried to import everyone we could find via 1965 act. It is something that despite current ethnic flux could be done if we closed the border for the next 100 years. Close the Border.

What I'm trying to say is these "I'm jewish types" will be ground under, and their children (if they ever have any) will see themselves as White American, or simply American if we close the border. Their children, and grandchildren will say "I'm American, but my ancestors were English, Scots, Irish, Welsh, French, and Jewish" like everyone else might rattle off their mixed European ancestry. Which for the current "I'm jewish" coward is more terrifying than any gas chamber. They fear not being "God's chosen" more than they do being prosecuted for it. Which is why they're so opposed to closing the border, and not worshipping the brown alien.

Close the Border.

Dems have had decades to fix the fraud problem and all they do is squeal and whine that the Republicans are going to demolish Medicaid, so they have zero leg to stand on here.
What if I told you fraud is the point. They can't get enough of taking money from White men, that would have paid for White children, and giving it to browns. Anything that causes more of this racial wealth transfer is good in their eyes.

Do any of you know about the French Revolution or the late 1800s Russia? I’ve seen parallels about today drawn between those times and late 1960s America, but I know a decent amount about that time.
Neither of those are comparable to current United States. History rhymes, it does not repeat. Which is one of the reason marxist analysis is worthless. Take France on the eve of the revolution. France wasn't a multi-ethnic, multi-religious nation ruled by what amounts to an occupying force. Instead it was nearly all French, and nearly all catholic. The insanity that resulted was a product of people tossing away tradition as a way to over come horrible leadership. America's current problems come from an abandonment of tradition on the part of current leadership. Or put another the causes and insanity of the French revolution was a search for solutions to bad management. Whereas current problems are a vocal minority being too loud, and aggressive trying to force on the majority a new order.
 
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