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Should be a wild four years.

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SpergioLeonne said:
I feel like I was promised that today would be the apocalypse because America had its credit rating downgraded
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It's no big thing - the downgrade was done by Moody's only, was only a single notch (from Aa1 to Aaa), and brought the agency in line with the ratings of its peers.
SpergioLeonne said:
Also cute that they waited to do it for trump though they’ve been floating it since Obama
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Not exactly. Various CRAs cut their ratings in 2011 (from AAA), and then again in 2012, in 2013, in 2023, and now in 2025. Fitch actually upgraded US debt in 2014, lol.
 
I'm curious about the DC judge's ruling on the US Institute of Peace, the do nothing home for good black Democrats that Elon and Co gutted and shut down back in March.

DODGE shut it down completely, fired everyone and locked up the building. So what's his order mean? Does he just say "hire everyone back, give them back pay, open dem doors and let the grifting continue"?

I'm curious as to how yet another DC judge massively over stepping his authority will play out.

edit: oooohhh it was our old favorite DC Judge Beryl Howell who made this ruling. I should have guess when the order was 143 pages long. Yah I ain't reading 100+ pages of anti-Trump ranting by a crazy wine aunt who hates everything and anything Trump does.
 
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Haloperidol said:
The thread has focused very little on this which suggests to me it is an unmistakable L. I like the idea of the gov backing off on things it doesn’t need to control, and we’re all kind of fucked and full of plastic anyway, but most people aren’t living the self-sufficient dream to make up for it yet.
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I don't really know what you mean by this. The people for whom this is an L is, well, everyone. Including DuPont executives who have pumped industrial quantities of this stuff into the environment. It will affect them and their families the same as anyone else. Tetraethyllead was widely used as an additive for gasoline to boost the octane rating. It took literally more than fifty years for people to agree that spewing lead fumes into the residential atmosphere is a bad idea, because lead is a neurotoxin. What exactly is your opinion on this? Do you think the government should have backed off on it? Because then you would be in line with DuPont's army of lobbyists.

Robert Bilott is already 20 years into investigating the effects of C8 chemicals on the human body. I imagine it will be many more before people come to a conclusion similar to the one that was reached regarding tetraethyllead. Namely that is is literal poison. Change does take time, and it would be easier if people like you did not insist on simply giving up and letting gigantic chemical companies get away with whatever they want.
 
Wodanaz said:
I don't really know what you mean by this. The people for whom this is an L is, well, everyone. Including DuPont executives who have pumped industrial quantities of this stuff into the environment. It will affect them and their families the same as anyone else. Tetraethyllead was widely used as an additive for gasoline to boost the octane rating. It took literally more than fifty years for people to agree that spewing lead fumes into the residential atmosphere is a bad idea, because lead is a neurotoxin. What exactly is your opinion on this? Do you think the government should have backed off on it? Because then you would be in line with DuPont's army of lobbyists.

Robert Bilott is already 20 years into investigating the effects of C8 chemicals on the human body. I imagine it will be many more before people come to a conclusion similar to the one that was reached regarding tetraethyllead. Namely that is is literal poison. Change does take time, and it would be easier if people like you did not insist on simply giving up and letting gigantic chemical companies get away with whatever they want.
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I guess my meaning wasn’t clear. This thread (me included) is overall pleased with this administration and tends to focus on the good decisions being made. I don’t mind that, it’s just a fact. So it’s telling to me that nobody is talking about this decision. It reinforces that it’s quite a big mistake. I’m not sure how you got the impression I think rolling regulations like this back is a good thing at all, it’s the complete opposite.
 
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Sekirodiealot said:
Trump did react to the diagnosis hoping Biden for the best and of course people are going "he didn't write it" or "an intern wrote it". Just because trump doesn't like to speak with big words like a 17th century aristocrat doesn't make him dumb.
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I mean, a staffer did write it. Same could be said for the majority of Trump's social media posts tbh, but this somehow never comes up when these people choose to flip their shit over the ones with typos or all-caps shit talking. What gets me about these faggots is how they still insist on Trump being some kind of unhinged sociopathic retard based on shit that is entirely happening in their head at this point. Trump has done or said literally nothing about Biden being ill besides, at most, asking his staffers to post a tasteful PR-friendly acknowledgement, because if he didn't, the retarded public would either read into his silence and bash him for that, or assume he didn't know. But no, TDS demands that Trump needs to be shat on anyway, so we get "yeah he's demonstrating a degree of grace, class, respect, or at least restraint befitting his office. But fuck him anyway, I bet he WANTS to publicly be a dick about it or MIGHT be in the future. Unlike us, who are good compassionate individuals above such behavior. What a fucking deranged, evil, sociopathic retard, I hope he dies painfully of cancer."

Absolutely fucking unhinged behavior. If TDS can't be considered some kind of novel mental illness borne of some specific culture-bound social contagion, it sure as all hell is a manifestation of some already-existing ones.

I do find it funny that Trump Jr. didn't bother to censor himself the same way lol
 
Haloperidol said:
I guess my meaning wasn’t clear. This thread and subforum are overall pleased with this administration and tend to focus on the good decisions being made. I don’t mind that, it’s just a fact. So it stands out that nobody is talking about this decision. It reinforces that it’s quite a big mistake.
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I see... Yes I would prefer if more people especially on the left actually cared about this as opposed to being against "oil", which is a far greater stretch for the average person. I am also generally for the idea of government backing off on things they don't need to control, but generally means generally. There are some things that basically require government intervention.

The payment processor question is one such example. If things get much worse then I think bankers are going to have a bad time. The purpose of government is basically to avoid having a bad time. The 3500 people who had a bad time with medical complications arising from C8 in their bloodstream had a very bad time. I choose to talk about this issue in particular because it is easy to point to that study, the cancers, the birth defects, and the settlements, to show the average person exactly what happened. For a lot of environmental stuff, it'd harder to do that - there is less hard physical evidence. Hence the contempt and humor most people treat the "just stop oil" activists with.

In my ideal world, we would cut bennies from welfare massively and redirect some of that money into filtering C8 from the water so that hard working proles wouldn't have to suffer to keep the darkies and lazies in line.
 
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