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Ellen in mid-April, using a beach wheelchair (which is apparently funded by a charity for children with cancer and other serious illness) because she's supposedly unable to walk with her family otherwise:
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Ellen today, miraculously cured:
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As a side note, I always forget how ridiculously short she is.

Are munchies usually really uwu smol and widdle and super skinny? Aside from being unsettlingly child-like. It's a pattern I've noticed. It's like they are competing with literal children for attention. How pathetic.
 
Are munchies usually really uwu smol and widdle and super skinny? Aside from being unsettlingly child-like. It's a pattern I've noticed. It's like they are competing with literal children for attention. How pathetic.
I think it's more common for them to be overweight - the photos of service dog meetups in this thread are usually mostly pudgy chicks.
 
What about munchie horse girl Abrea?

(Not a gotcha, it's an honest question. I know fuck all about horses but from what @Kate Farms Shill learned about them and horse girls in her Abrea posts, it seems like she's both a dedicated munchie and a horse girl, although to the detriment of the animals in both cases...)

That one was crazy for sure, but not a Horse Girl. A Horse Girl will spend herself 70k in debt to take pay for her stupid goddamn horses. With Abrea, it was like having a very large dog to show off, not some psycho identity.; a great dane would have sufficed if she sat down and thought about it. She clearly didn't and the mini horse was her way of being special. Stay the hell away from Horse Girls. It ain't worth it. Trust me.
 
That one was crazy for sure, but not a Horse Girl. A Horse Girl will spend herself 70k in debt to take pay for her stupid goddamn horses. With Abrea, it was like having a very large dog to show off, not some psycho identity.; a great dane would have sufficed if she sat down and thought about it. She clearly didn't and the mini horse was her way of being special. Stay the hell away from Horse Girls. It ain't worth it. Trust me.
Lies, horse girls are awesome, it's the barn witches you need to be afraid of
 
Are munchies usually really uwu smol and widdle and super skinny? Aside from being unsettlingly child-like. It's a pattern I've noticed. It's like they are competing with literal children for attention. How pathetic.

I think it's more common for them to be overweight - the photos of service dog meetups in this thread are usually mostly pudgy chicks.
From what I’ve noticed, a lot of them start out as uwu smol most delicate anachans, and many use the munching to hide and continue their eating disorders. Some manage to stay that way, but for the others, once they’re deep into the munch, they tend to pile on the weight. This especially happens with the ones who munch their way to the wheelchair/feeding tube combo, where they get plenty of calories and almost no movement in their day. The ones that munch their way to steroid abuse get even worse, with that horrid moon face overuse of steroids gives you. And since so many of them come from these intense sports backgrounds, I think it doesn’t even occur to them that they CAN get fat, since they’ve been so thin and smol their whole lives and that’s just how they see themselves in their mind’s eye. But I do feel like a lot of the mentality is similar to eating disorders in that they are refusing to grow up and engage with the adult world and all the responsibilities that come along with it, and munching is just their chosen way to do that.
 
Agree with @Alamo basement dweller that they seem to always fall in the too thin or too fat variety. Unsurprisingly, being under or over weight makes you feel like utter crap. Instead of doing the hard work on their mental health and making lifestyle changes they latch on to often incurable, difficult to treat, or refractory health conditions that give them a free pass to not making any progress at all and continuing to complain about how sick they are without actually addressing the root cause. Medical interventions never work because they don’t want to get better, meanwhile they are getting fatter or thinner and feeling even worse than when they started due to iatrogenic harm (unnecessary surgeries, medication overuse) and increasingly sedentary lifestyle. Eventually most of them actually succeed in making themselves sick. Even just a few days of bed rest can have dramatic impact on your overall health: Functional impact of 10 days of bed rest in healthy older adults

Meanwhile, I was pondering @Polychromos comment about how doctors who treat these girls are seen and came across an interesting article in Pro Publica:

This researcher warned of unnecessary, risky vascular procedures. She was called a “nazi” and accused of “fratricide”

The tldr for those who don’t have the time/desire to read is that Dr. Caitlin Hicks looked closely at peers who seemed to be overusing lucrative vascular procedures on patients who did not need them. Nothing so severe as our MALS butchers, the surgery in question is atherectomies (to remove fatty deposits from leg arteries). Hicks and team disclosed the names of the suspect doctors to the Centre for Medicare and Medicaid Services and to the Society for Vascular Surgery only to have a “vocal contingent of doctors willing to fight for their freedom to perform the vascular surgeries as they saw fit”.

ProPublica cites an experience at the annual meeting for the Outpatient Endovascular and Interventional Society (amusingly at Disney of course) where an interventional radiologist stated: “That clinic patient, how well are you […] converting them into the codes that you can bill for them? [… ] [if that patient says] ‘I don’t want any more procedures,’ now that’s maybe something that you may not be able to bill for. So when I have a patient captured and captive on my table, I try to maximize how much I’m able to get.”

Well worth reading, and not behind a paywall, it provides links for further reading too. I’ll see what more I can dig up that speaks more directly to the surgeries we see most often.

In other news, I am having serious lactose withdrawal symptoms now that I am up to date on this thread. My morning coffee is just not the same. Any recommendations on other amusing threads with similar flavour to entertain me?
 
That one was crazy for sure, but not a Horse Girl. A Horse Girl will spend herself 70k in debt to take pay for her stupid goddamn horses. With Abrea, it was like having a very large dog to show off, not some psycho identity.; a great dane would have sufficed if she sat down and thought about it. She clearly didn't and the mini horse was her way of being special. Stay the hell away from Horse Girls. It ain't worth it. Trust me.
She was into horses other than Flirty. There's pics of her massive bulk riding a regular horse and supposedly working in the barn or whatever.
 
Re: Anachan to chubby.

A huge part of the munchie dynamic is that these girls are using it as a way to avoid expectations.

They're thin, kind of pretty, dancers, high achievers, whatever. And they don't want to be. But they don't have the strength of character to just say, look, I'm going to be mediocre. I'm going to eat cheetoes and watch TV and drop out of college. Munching is a built-in excuse. I'm not insufficiently talented. I'm sick. I'm not flaking out on obligations because I want to stay in and watch TV. I'm sick. I'm not dropping out of college because I'm unmotivated. I'm sick. I'm not slacking on exercise and deconditioning. I'm sick.

Ironically they get wedded to the "sick" role, and they trade a few years of parental disapproval as they bum around post-high school or post-college for a lifetime of playing sick.

Thinness is another expectation they shrug off. I'm not eating like crap and gaining weight. I'm sick.
 
In other news, I am having serious lactose withdrawal symptoms now that I am up to date on this thread. My morning coffee is just not the same. Any recommendations on other amusing threads with similar flavour to entertain me?
I recommend Victoria/Victor Markhoff’s thread in the Stinkditch for a wonderful mix of munching and gender speshuls. Also, for a nice long read that mixes delusion, extreme obesity, and recently a lovely chronic illness arc check out Anna O’Brien AKA Glitter and Lasers in the Deathfats forum. While not quite the same as the munchies, both feature women who have had every opportunity to lead a perfectly privileged life but instead have chosen to make complete assholes of themselves on the internet while spiraling downward and blaming everyone but themselves for their very solvable problems. It’s glorious. Both are absolutely wonderful cows. Top notch lactose.
 
Late to the discussion about OCD vs OCPD, but for what it's worth, the classic keyword for the distinction is that OCD is ego-dystonic while OCPD is ego-syntonic.

That is to say, in OCD the obsession/compulsion cycle does not align with one's view of themselves or the world. Like "what if my friend dies because of me, so I have to text him every hour on the hour", which is distressing because you hope your friend doesn't die and here you have to desperately do your best to keep him alive.

Meanwhile, in OCPD, the obsessions and actions of control don't involve the same kind of distress because they're seen as an extension of the personality. E.g., "I have to be slim and perfect so I never eat even a morsel of bread, and this is just how I am". There can be some distress but one is not being driven to do things to avoid distressing obsessions; instead the obsessions align with one's moral beliefs and values ("I should strive to be slim and perfect").

OCD is more akin to an anxiety disorder (while uniquely characterised by the obsession/compulsion cycle), and OCPD is a personality disorder, i.e. pervasive across a person's life and affecting their interfacing with the world. Both can entail poor insight.
 
@The Jewel of the Nile @Alamo basement dweller and @Oracular Slug thanks for the recommendations. I think the Tard Baby one would make me too sad and angry to provide suitable early morning entertainment, the GRS surgery doctors would involve looking at too many mangled pictures of assorted genitalia and that stuff is ugly as fuck to look at even when it hasn’t been out through a meat grinder. I think the deathfats are a good place to go and will provide adequate motivation for me to get off my own fat ass and do some exercise.

@tipsy otter that is a perfect summation of the difference between OCD and OCPD. Could not have put it any better.

I’m afraid I am not going to be very useful in providing fresh meat for the thread as I don’t have any social media or frequent Reddit. I do like to take a look at some of the more ridiculous subreddits from time to time (chronic illness, EDS, rare disease <<< because it is full of EDSers and not a single person with an actual rare disease) and came across this entertaining detour.

Chances of getting MAID . Took a pic but can’t post it so here is the text:

What are the chances of getting MAID (esp. in Europe)? My MCS symptoms got a lot worse - I react to everything and have trouble just getting through the day. I live in hell! I read about a woman who got medical assistance in dying in Canada. I rely on donations and can‘t even afford MAID on my own but I wanted to know whether that‘s even possible or doctors will just gaslight me. THANKS!

The user in question (morelov33) aka Laura / Lori has been posting this across various reddits, most of which have removed the post (took some pics for posterity but can’t post from iPad) but did succeed in schilling her Go Fund Me. She is seriously looking into MAID for MCS which she calls“a rare, incurable chronic illness that is associated with unbearable, daily pain”. Here is an excerpt of her sob story for those not wanting to click through. Get the tissues out for the river of tears you will cry:

“Unfortunately, there is no prospect of healing or relief, and the pain increases over time. It’s a horrifying feeling when you can no longer endure it in your body due to physical limitations and can do nothing about it. Every second is filled with immense suffering […] I am seriously ill, bedridden, and forced to live in isolation from the outside world. Breathing pain and neurological symptoms from my illness are especially troubling. I am severely restricted, and my health is in an extremely bad state. The physical and emotional pain is so overwhelming that I now feel compelled to take the final step – the decision for euthanasia.”

Immediately made me think of Bart’s frog-prince: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h80ZlYQtpg

Unsurprisingly, her family does not support this decision! She also wants money to get her own place. Not sure why she needs it if she just wants to go get MAID and shuffle off thus mortal coil?

As you probably already know, MCS is not seen as a valid diagnosis among most medical professionals who don’t have the word “integrative” in their title.

John Hopkins: Multiple Chemical Sensitivities

NIH Paper: Multiple Chemical Sensitivities

I feel for the future genuinely terminally ill people who have made the painful decision to end their life who will undoubtedly be waiting on lists to die while special snowflakes like our friend Laura clog up the referrals process. Recently we read that our beloved Sad Walrus has also succeeded in obtaining the right to die (we presume, although sounds like she just wants to starve for attention and not take the quicker less attention seeking route) and we’ve had idiots like Hope Otto claim they are going through VSED. I can just see MAID becoming another resource that these vapid malingerers will use it as just another way to seek attention.

Oh, and if you hadn’t already guessed, she has BPD too! Who would have thunk it!

I’ve tried to sleuth her out but as I don’t have any of the toks, books, or grams I’ve hit a dead end. If anyone can link me through to her I’m happy to continue searching for entertaining nuggets before she catches wind of any mockery of her utter ridiculousness on our part.

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Talking about MAID when you have a functional pair of arms that can fashion a noose and a perfectly sturdy door in your home is hillarious.

I happened on someone in a city sub presumably sympathy farming by asking what the best things to do were before they sought assisted suicide. Detecting a whiff of the munch I went to their profile and they had many posts where they casually mentioned their plans for assisted suicide due to "chronic pain" but seemed to be entirely able bodied. You may want to argue the bit with me on this but they were also a tranny. Had to stop myself from pointing out that sleeping tablets and vodka are widely available and affordable. The country they live in doesn't even have assisted suicide.
 
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