Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Pim Fortuyn]

Do you guys think Russ took notes? I kinda doubt he'll remember everything he needs to do, I sure as hell wouldn't, and I'm slightly less retarded than he is.

Ever met Amish or Hasids? Ugly men have the highest fertility rate of anyone.

They might have shitty haircuts, but something about devout men with physiques shaped by manual labor and raw milk does it for women, I bet amish guys could just lay pipe endlessly in any nightclub.

 

[HackerX]

Await Russell's motion tomorrow in which, even though he stewed silently in the hearing, he's since had a shower argument about it and must state for that record that what he SHOULD HAVE SAID is: The jerk store called, and they say they're runnin outta you!

He's beating himself up over the IFP mishap for sure.

I'm rereading the pseudo-transcripts and I don't think he understood why the judge was asking him if he could afford the filing fee. It seems like he didn't connect the dots that answering "yes" would lead to "pay $400". He preplanned the "IFP has nothing to do with copyright" as his retard defense and didn't realize the questions that came before and after were asked for specific reasons. I legitimately don't believe he knew what the IFP review motion was about, and he assumed Schrodinger's copyright negated whatever it was. It would not shock me at all if he files a motion to undo the thing that already happened over the IFP. No idea if that's even possible in this circumstance, but that hasn't stopped him before.

It's one of those where I wish I could have seen or heard it because of the tone mannerisms. On paper, it looked like it was a disaster any time he had to veer away from "not relevant", "this is a copyright case", or his standard plight sperging. Those were his verbal "excusable neglects".

 

[ScooterL]

why would he feel the need to do that

To demonstrate impartiality.

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

He's beating himself up over the IFP mishap for sure.

I'm rereading the pseudo-transcripts and I don't think he understood why the judge was asking him if he could afford the filing fee. It seems like he didn't connect the dots that answering "yes" would lead to "pay $400". He preplanned the "IFP has nothing to do with copyright" as his retard defense and didn't realize the questions that came before and after were asked for specific reasons. I legitimately don't believe he knew what the IFP review motion was about, and he assumed Schrodinger's copyright negate whatever it was.

It's one of those where I wish I could have seen or heard it because of the tone mannerisms. On paper, it looked like it was a disaster any time he had to veer away from "not relevant", "this is a copyright case", or his standard plight sperging.

He had rehearsed his answers beforehand and when he knew the question that was going to be asked, he had a stock standard Greer response locked and loaded. But when the conversation veered into places he wasn't expecting, such as when the judge magistrate said something I'm shocked at how you haven't done X in relation to not producing his records when pressed to and his reply, which is always, my phone doesnt have the space to maintain my litigation records on them, Hardin has the same info I do so why cant he do it? and the judge, in turn, said this is your litigation and those are your records, all you had to do was go to a court and request them. You didn't. Make me understand why. And all he could do was stammer, apologize and offer ' I didn't knows and I didn't understand'.
He also got himself worked up when they grilled him about witnesses, district transfer, and his conduct regarding the two. All he could do was seethe about how Josh doesn't live where I think he lives so none of this is my problem.
He immediately took the bait Hardin laid out about killing his IFP status, because he always has to mouth off to Hardin in his emails, I CAN pay but I WON'T pay. So the judge asked him point blank, can you pay? Russ said yeah of course I can. The judge figured Russ didn't understand the gravity of what he just said and gave him one last out: can you pay this and not have your bills and rent affected? Again, Russ, not understanding what was actually being asked, replied affirmatively. So the judge had no choice but order the filing fee be paid, and Russ, after a long pause, sounded completely defeated and just numbly mumbled out that he would do so.
At the end of the meeting it was clear Mr. Greer was completely out of his depth and no longer has any clue what he's doing, he wants all the burden of work and proof shifted to Hardin and Josh because he has no idea how to produce it himself though he directly stated 'I have evidence he (Josh) has directly infringed mine and other's copyrights' while seething about Josh. I'm interested to see if he just sullenly completes the death march this case is on or files complaint after complaint about how he's sorry, he doesn't understand, please district judge the magistrate is bullying me, all the while reminding everyone that the 10th declared him the winner years ago so why are we still here?

 

[SCV]

Correct, and I seriously doubt he will provide anything.

As @jerkstore conjectured, and with which I concur, I think there is something in that application that is a major problem for him. My best bet is that it contains a false statement of such magnitude that it would potentially expose him to perjury (or filing a false document? not sure how those kinds of situations work in criminal law) charges, if he is required, as part of the application, to sign that all statements made, to the best of his knowledge, are true and honest (like troons...), and there is no possible way that he would not know if the statement he made was not true and honest.

I think you are seriously overestimating shitlips here and being wildly optimistic that there's even a possibility he could catch a perjury charge no matter what is in the restraining order application. He's like an insect or a communist. Smell shit? Move to shit (even if there's a waiting flyswatter over it). The hardship wants this document? I won't give it to him (even if I said I would be happy to). Food prices too high because collectivizing farm didn't work? Make high prices illegal (even if that just means there will be no food). And so on.

As to perjury people without tard cards (lawyers even!) lie about shit and get away with it all the time. Thinking rusty can put together the logical chain of future events (send RO application to hardin -> contains falsehoods -> possible perjury charges) is insanity. Literally hours ago he proved he could not connect "Can you pay the 402$ filing fee" to the impending decision on his IFP status mere minutes in the future... twice!

 

[Pedophobe]

Like that's the fuck around and find out line, but the burden is on the farms, not Shitmouth.

I think that's a misunderstanding. We'll have to wait for the recording to be released by the court to get the judge's exact words but I think he said something like "whoever uploads this to a web site, such as Kiwi Farms, will be pursued by the US Marshall Service". So the burden is naturally on the perpetrator.

 

[Quioui]

Greer was fumbling an excuse close to "I can't possibly provide the RO to Hardin, yah honuh, it will end up on Kiwi Farms!" and Magistrate Bennett retorted "Mark it SPO, you know how do it now [], if the SPO is broken the person responsible will meet the Marshalls"

I had to do a double take, wondering if he was implying "I sure hope none of the 150+ Kiwi Farms observers intent to record this present meeting", but I think it was just a generic reassurance that anyone messing around would be punished.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

I'm just happy Russell was able to reschedule that urgent meeting! It sure seemed like he wouldn't be able to, but I guess he worked that Greer charisma and got it taken care of, how lucky!

 

[Counterfeit Obol]

Alright, so if I'm reading this right, Hardin and the judge managed to corner Russ regarding his IFP status, putting his whole lolsuit in jeopardy if he doesn't cough up the cash (and he probably can't because there's strong evidence he's living out of a car).

Kudos to @Rattus Ebrius summarizing the whole thing here. I was fast asleep when the meeting was live.

 

[Lapsus of the bepsus]

Alright, so if I'm reading this right, Hardin and the judge managed to corner Russ regarding his IFP status, putting his whole lolsuit in jeopardy if he doesn't cough up the cash (and he probably can't because there's strong evidence he's living out of a car).

Kudos to @Rattus Ebrius summarizing the whole thing here. I was fast asleep when the meeting was live.

theres also the $1000 sanction. the time is ticking. pay up russhole! wheres the fucking money?

 

[Swole McPole]

That was my first thought, but I didn't want to say anything lest Russhole get any ideas. Especially given how insistent Judge Bennett is that publishing this document on KF will lead to serious consequences.

OK, I get that the judge has said that this document has been marked attorneys eyes only and shouldn't be posted on here, but is there a reason why that should be the case? What's it going to contain other than an allegation that nasty Josh Moon lets people post discussions about Russell's folly on his nasty website? An allegation that police/courts didn't think were credible.

Surely that's not something that should be ruled as confidential? Also, if there was really any substantive allegations in there, wouldn't they have to make it into the courts deliberations, so surely they'd have to come out eventually anyway?

Lastly, I've forgotten why this is even important in a copyright case anyway? It's about Russell's hurt fee-fees about people discussing his bullshit on here. I get that Hardin is bringing it up because it's another example of Russell wasting everybody's time with spurious allegations, but again, why should that make it a confidential document?

Is there something I'm missing or is this the judge just giving the tard another taste of the courtroom GFE?

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Surely that's not something that should be ruled as confidential? Also, if there was really any substantive allegations in there, wouldn't they have to make it into the courts deliberations, so surely they'd have to come out eventually anyway?

The judge is hoisting him on his own russtard. Russ claimed it was a RO, and that it was materially important to the case.

Hardin asked for it, Russ never even tried to produce it, or admit that it was just a request for one, not a granted one. The farms did the research to discover that (just like apparently Steve being daid is a farms discovery).

Russ claimed he couldn't produce it because it would cause undue suffering, judge said why not use the SPO, that's what it is for, and Russ insinuated that Hardin and Null leak to the farms and to Jimmy John's Hitler Potatoes.

So the judge reiterated that them doing so would be serious violations and cause a shitstorm, so produce it in 14 days under the SPO or suffer the consequences.

Now Russ is in a shitty position. He's too stupid to figure out how to get a copy of it, probably has his own copy somewhere, and knows that it's lame and gay and gay and lame. It may also contain entirely embarrassing (at best) or completely case-ending (at worst) admissions made under penalty of purjury.

No matter what happens he's fucked. He produces it, the SPO doesn't cover the judge, who reads it and is like "what the fuck is this shit and why did you think it applies", or he doesn't produce it and gets reamed.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

OK, I get that the judge has said that this document has been marked attorneys eyes only and shouldn't be posted on here, but is there a reason why that should be the case? What's it going to contain other than an allegation that nasty Josh Moon lets people post discussions about Russell's folly on his nasty website? An allegation that police/courts didn't think were credible.

Surely that's not something that should be ruled as confidential? Also, if there was really any substantive allegations in there, wouldn't they have to make it into the courts deliberations, so surely they'd have to come out eventually anyway?

Lastly, I've forgotten why this is even important in a copyright case anyway? It's about Russell's hurt fee-fees about people discussing his bullshit on here. I get that Hardin is bringing it up because it's another example of Russell wasting everybody's time with spurious allegations, but again, why should that make it a confidential document?

Is there something I'm missing or is this the judge just giving the tard another taste of the courtroom GFE?

The real answer is Russ lied through his gimpfaced teeth on the Restraining Order application, assuming it would just go through without any scrutiny at all -- no doubt he's had this experience from the other direction with various whores and female celebrities getting TROs against him -- and he does not want the farms seeing it (and sharing it), showing yet more evidence that Russ lied. Or perhaps that he doesn't want Null seeing it, cause Null and his legal team would immediately go "that's a lie, that's a lie, that's a lie, wait he's telling people that I did what? That's defamation..."

 

[Useful_Mistake]

It's going to be a rough next few weeks for Russ. He needs to figure out how to get a copy of his application from the police,

Once again, the application was made to the judge. Russ talking to "detectives" about arresting Null is a completely different discovery abuse topic that wasn't part of the hearing (though Russ did mention it)

He preplanned the "IFP has nothing to do with copyright" as his retard defense and didn't realize the questions that came before and after were asked for specific reasons. I legitimately don't believe he knew what the IFP review motion was about, and he assumed Schrodinger's copyright negated whatever it was. It would not shock me at all if he files a motion to undo the thing that already happened over the IFP. No idea if that's even possible in this circumstance, but that hasn't stopped him before.

The Magistrate did explain to him the relevance in very clear words before asking if he really could afford the filing fee. But I doubt Russ listened

 

[Dyn]

Or perhaps that he doesn't want Null seeing it, cause Null and his legal team would immediately go "that's a lie, that's a lie, that's a lie, wait he's telling people that I did what? That's defamation..."

Pretty sure you can't defame somebody in a TRO application. It would be perjury.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

I can't believe this has to be stated AGAIN.

STOP POSTING YOUR RETARD-ASS THEORIES ON THE BEST WAYS FOR RUSS TO GET NULL INTO TROUBLE. STOP GIVING RUSS IDEAS. FUCKING HELL.

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

Rusty himself stated at 219-9 that the RO [application] is relevant.

Now he's swearing up and down that it isn't. The Magistrate rightly told him you don't get to protest the relevance of something by just refusing to produce when compelled.

Even though we won't get to see the documents (if he's even competent or wealthy enough to get hold of them), I'm sure Mr Hardin will find an extremely funny way to use it for Jersh's defence. Especially if South Twain avenue or whatever fictitious address is conspicuously absent from the application.

 

[Irene and 22 others]

I can't believe this has to be stated AGAIN.

STOP POSTING YOUR RETARD-ASS THEORIES ON THE BEST WAYS FOR RUSS TO GET NULL INTO TROUBLE. STOP GIVING RUSS IDEAS. FUCKING HELL.

Can we put them into spoiler tags so that Greer can't read them?

Spoiler: Detailed legal speculation as to how Greer could win the case

Get fucked shitlips.

 

[Swole McPole]

Russ claimed he couldn't produce it because it would cause undue suffering, judge said why not use the SPO, that's what it is for

OK, this was the bit that I'd missed. I'm not grasping why it would cause undue suffering, but I understand why Greer would make the claim -- to try and avoid having his bullshit allegations subjected to scrutiny.

Assuming Greer actually files something with the court, can Hardin move to have it unsealed, assuming that there's no real reason why it should be sealed?

 

[Allied-Mastercomputer]

Dang, these meetings are productive. Hope the
magistrate learns that and schedules a couple more of these. The case might finish by 2026 at this point.