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Should be a wild four years.

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The Minnesota mom is the latest litmus test for conservatives, especially with it happening not long after the fatal stabbing in Austin. You have the likes of Mark Dice who bring up how some white people are getting tired of blacks not being held accountable for what they do. And then you have ones like Steven Crowder who say, "Please don't call black people the n-word. We don't want a race war."
 
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The Nothingness said:
The Minnesota mom is the latest litmus test for conservatives, especially with it happening not long after the fatal stabbing in Austin. You have the likes of Mark Dice who bring up how some white people are tired of blacks not being held accountable for what they do. And then you ones like Steven Crowder who say, "Please don't call black people the n-word, we don't want a race war."
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The smart ones are treating it as a matter of free speech and the final pushback against cancel culture. The stupid ones are bringing race into it. I'm more than positive Trump and his team will ignore it completely if they can
 
WelperHelper99 said:
It's WW1-WW2 shit. Lots of steel, oil, and grit. Different than steampunk which is all airships and brass and shit. Atompunk is the 50s nuclear shit; fallout basically
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And so are there a lot of shitty bands in these settings that use like 3 5th chords per song in all of these? I think prior to the 70’s, you’d be executed for misrepresenting yourselves as musicians
 
"Woke right" is anybody who's right wing and doesn't care for Jews, niggers or feminism. So Ulysses S Grant, basically.
 
Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0 said:
We're probably going to find out in the next year or so. We're pretty close to a Constitutional crisis. It's also on the table in these court cases if the Executive Branch and the heads of agencies it appoints have any actual power to fire agency staff, redirect operations, choose how to spend budgets, or basically run them at all.

The stance of the anti-Trump lawfarists is that the agencies and their lower staff members are beholden only to Congress (if even that) and have their jobs for life. They are effectively trying to being the Deep State out of the shadows and make it an official 4th Branch of government, and reduce the Executive to a figurehead like the British King.
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This is so interesting because the role of the executive branch is a debate that never seems to go away in America. The Jeffersonian political tradition (and by extension the legacy of Andrew Jackson and the very existence of the party system stems from this debate). Hamilton’s plan to empower the executive could only be checked by congress, but congress could only mount effective opposition through unity, stemming from a party apparatus. At least this is what I understood from my coursework. Feel free to correct
Non-delegation (the doctrine that one branch of government can’t delegate its constitutional prerogative to another) was the gold standard of “separation of power” jurisprudence all the way until the new deal. The only reason why the Supreme Court stopped upholding this was because FDR threatened to stack the court.
In the absence of non-delegation you Americans find yourself with this horrible bureaucratic Frankenstein. The executive agencies have the lawmaking ability of congress, the enforcement authority of the office of the president and the ability to determine policy directions as if it were an elected popular body.

The biggest nightmare of all of this is precisely because of the delegation of power, the only way to check the bureaucracy is through a unity of all three branches and a lot of patience. You lose a mid term? You’re done. No chance of reforming the government. A court case doesn’t go your way at the SC? Done. If the president doesn’t prioritise shrinking the government? Done.
 
The Ugly One said:
"Woke right" is anybody who's right wing and doesn't care for Jews, niggers or feminism. So Ulysses S Grant, basically.
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Sherman was better because war crimes.
Cromwell said:
This is so interesting because the role of the executive branch is a debate that never seems to go away in America. The Jeffersonian political tradition (and by extension the legacy of Andrew Jackson and the very existence of the party system stems from this debate). Hamilton’s plan to empower the executive could only be checked by congress, but congress could only mount effective opposition through unity, stemming from a party apparatus.
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The whole idea that the founders had was that the mice are safe when the elephants are fighting. Our government is naturally supposed to be adversarial. Pit ambition against ambition.
Cromwell said:
In the absence of non-delegation you Americans find yourself with this horrible bureaucratic Frankenstein. The executive agencies have the lawmaking ability of congress, the enforcement authority of the office of the president and the ability to determine policy directions as if it were an elected popular body.
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Hate to admit it but you're right, the founders did not anticipate that we would essentially gain a fourth branch through bureaucracy and if they did well they did a shit job preparing us for it. This is why it's so important that the bureaucracy is held to account by the executive since they are de facto a part of that branch.
Cromwell said:
The biggest nightmare of all of this is precisely because of the delegation of power, the only way to check the bureaucracy is through a unity of all three branches and a lot of patience. You lose a mid term? You’re done. No chance of reforming the government. A court case doesn’t go your way at the SC? Done. If the president doesn’t prioritise shrinking the government? Done.
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It's not that bad, I think you're black pilling a bit. But it is true that everyone has to be on board to utterly gut what is essentially a fourth branch of government. The problem is that people have been very concerned about the growth of the executive, and rightfully so, and as a result it is hard to get SCOTUS or Congress on board to put the bureaucracy back in its place because that would just be giving the executive branch too much power in their eyes.
 
Cromwell said:
As a follow up question, what legal tool/mechanism do the federal judges use to block the orders and what legal precedent can be found in the case law and the constitutional that allows this behaviour?
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The short answer is no. The powers aren't SPECIFICALLY laid out. It's kept vague on purpose. So it's not technically laid out. What is laid out is a separation of powers and states rights.

What the Democrat Judges are doing is using something called Universal Injunctions which means, a ruling from a different district or sect of the Judicial System tries to establish ruling over what the Federal government or other states do. It's been done maybe once or twice in the past and there was just never any reason to fight it. The reality though is that it's a relatively new thing to be used in this way. The answer is, it is Unconstitutional. Its taking away the rights of other states to govern. A judge in California has no legal right to have any control over what Texas does. It's a direct violation of the Constitution and the entire Spirit of the country in general. It's a flat usurpation of power by the courts over the federal government and the fact it's been allowed to stand this long should tell you something about the Supreme Court.


The big problem we're having is Chief Justice of the Supreme Court John Roberts. No matter what the media tells you, Roberts is NOT ON TRUMP'S SIDE. He is NOT a Republican. He is NOT a conservative. He is a 1000% swamp creature and he ALLOWED this. He also ruled it's illegal to challenge an election when Trump lost to Biden. He's a complete piece of garbage. Earlier in Trump's term, he had a chance to stop these universal injunctions and he REFUSED to issue a ruling. He smacked down the specific law that was challenged and refused to hear on the matter any further. He is directly allowing these things to happen. He could end this bullshit at any second and he is actively choosing not to. I don't know WHY he is allowing this to continue. Trump's only move at this point is to force Roberts to rule against it, pack the court, or just ignore the rulings because they can't enforce it. If anything what Roberts is doing is forcing Trump to destroy the Judicial Branch in its entirety and that's ultimately what's going to have to happen if he doesn't rule on it.

The other problem is that all of what I've said above is largely esoteric. Normies are dumb and don't remember what happened when Trump challenged the election. They don't know about universal injunctions. They don't understand the Constitution and why what the judges are doing is insane. If you've ever heard Null bitch about lawsuits, that's exactly what the Democrats are doing. They're hurling any insane ruling they can think of at Trump and his team HAVE to answer it, preventing them from working on other things. It's bankrupting time and resources and they're just flinging shit at the wall so Trump can't clean house because he's focused on cleaning his wall. The courts also can't enforce these things. Trump can wipe his ass with the rulings and there's nothing they can do about it. Nobody can enforce it but Americans don't get that so expect the media to screech like harpies. The general average American does not understand this stuff and it's largely something you only know if you pay attention like we do on the Farms. The reality is, just by reading this you're now more knowledgeable about the situation than a solid 70% of Americans.
 
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WelperHelper99 said:
It's a artstyle, not music. Though Sabaton MIGHT qualify.
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Oh, then it’s really gay that they took a stupid word like punk and applied it to a foreign context

I hope they get beer bottle glass shards in their backs from the floor of the vfw basement that was the only place dumb enough to let them appear in public
 
SpergioLeonne said:
Oh, then it’s really gay that they took a stupid word like punk and applied it to a foreign context

I hope they get beer bottle glass shards in their backs from the floor of the vfw basement that was the only place dumb enough to let them appear in public
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Lol. But yeah. Think WH40K Imperial Guard. That's Diseslpunk. The aesthetic, style, all that, very World War style.
 
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