US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Levitcus prime24 said:
but I ask why do these people think fascism is evil?
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Because the Nazis held that, as the Master Race chosen by the Will of History, they had the moral right to conquer any territory holding natural resources the Fuehrer deemed necessary to sustain the Folkish State, enslaving any people living there who were deemed useful, and either expelling or exterminating the rest. The Germans killed between 11 and 13 million civilians as part of their campaign to cleanse their Lebensraum. When Soviet troops rolled westward after Operation Bagration, they found countless towns and villages that had been completely depopulated by the Nazis, some of them resettled with Germans. In some case, the inhabitants had been moved to slave camps, and in others, they had been murdered.

I don't understand why modern Nazi sympathizers don't seem to have any awareness of the Lebensraum program at all, let alone how foundational slavery and genocide were to it. It's like being a hard core internet tradcath who's never heard about papal infallibility. They seem to think Hitler was a liberal with nationalistic tendencies who was just a bit too based for his own day.
 
Potatoherder said:
Trump just did a death blow to hollywood and did it by claiming to protect them. Disney films so much shit overseas.
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I pirate all my anime, am I being patriotic for stealing from other nations or am I un-American for not watching (let alone paying for) American slop?
 
George Lucas said:
The desire to restore the monarchy is more popular outside of Russia than in it. While the Orthodox Church made a comeback, the Church was barely able to canonize the murdered family. If it’s that dicey in the Church itself, no way the public at large is going to have a favorable opinion on it.
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People think it would be neat for European monarchies to come back forget that the whole reason they're gone is they had no problem herding millions upon millions upon millions of teenage boys into trenches to be turned into meat chunks for basically no real reason other than a pissing match. They had no more care for the lives of the people they governed than the modern globohomo states. Fundamentally, Europeans do not really understand the concept of government of the people, by the people, for the people. No matter who's in charge, the people are seen as a resource for the government to consume to achieve its own aims.
 
Levitcus prime24 said:
I could just post these images for us to laugh at I usually do but I want to use these images as a way to elaborate on an idea that I've had for a good minute, that being WW2 is the modern creation myth, it is the bedrock in which the modern religion of democracy was built on. Why is ww2 considered a just war to these people, well its because ww2 is when the allies fought the nazis and defeated facism, but I ask why do these people think fascism is evil? Oh because it bombed innocent civilians, but wait the allies bombed Germany and its allies, yes the germans bombed London but London was the capital of Britain, and Berlin was also bombed, both were viable military targets, and yet one is demonized and the other glorified. Because the nazis subjugated millions, once again the allies also did that, remember for decades after the war, the common American thought that all germans were nazis. What became of Poland and East Germany after ww2 were they free? No when one imperialistic power left another came by and took them over, this one just barring a different flag. Oh and how did ww2 start? Oh that's right when nazi Germany and soviet union sign a nonaggression pact and both jointly invaded Poland, later on the nazis betrayed the ussr and that allowed them to frame themselves as the poor innocents trying to the evil fascist machine. Ww2 is the modern creation myth of the world and any and all criticism of it or critique of it is heresy worthy of death. We have allowed ourselves to become culltury stagnet in fears that we “will become the new nazis”.
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Oh and fun fact this guy is a “former cia contracter” make of that what you will
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WWII could be looked at as evil fights evil, I guess. None of the major participants came out with clean hands.

Go read The Bad War by Mike King. Or that one book Churchill, Hitler And The Unnecessary War by Pat Buchanan.
Or this Ron Untz collection
 
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trent said:
Alcatraz is pretty much a museum now so this motherfucker deciding to be like "fuck these guys, regular prison is fake and gay. let's put them on an island again" is hilarious because you know he'll really do it.
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'They told me it was a museum, I like those, my garden of heros will be a kind of museum.'

'So I thought; Where can we find an island, in cold water, the cold water is an important aspect historically, that we could build a prison on?'

'That's when I called the Danish.'
 
The Ugly One said:
People think it would be neat for European monarchies to come back forget that the whole reason they're gone is they had no problem herding millions upon millions upon millions of teenage boys into trenches to be turned into meat chunks for basically no real reason other than a pissing match. They had no more care for the lives of the people they governed than the modern globohomo states. Fundamentally, Europeans do not really understand the concept of government of the people, by the people, for the people. No matter who's in charge, the people are seen as a resource for the government to consume to achieve its own aims.
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In the run up to the war, It was the politicians and generals who led the charge to escalation in Germany, Austria, and Russia. The Emperors at the time, judging by their correspondence with each other and their supposed subordinates, did what they could to prevent the spiral to war. In Russia, the Tsar wasn't deposed because of "anti-war protests", that's Bolshevik propaganda, but instead by pro-war protestors that accused him and his wife of being German sympathizers. Hell, even in Imperial Japan, it was the Emperor that made the call to throw in the towel while his own generals tried to stop the broadcast.

If you compared the actions of the old monarchies to the "populist" governments that replaced them, you'd find that those who claim a divine mandate to rule tend to rule much more fairly than those who claim to rule in the name of "the people".
 
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Rogue AI said:
How is something like this even enforceable? People who are privately boycotting things aren't going to be saying shit about it all over social media under their legal names if something like this passes into law. Though it would be funny to see if the troons who are running homebrew sites because they realized most of their hormones came from Israel will get caught in something like this.
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H.R.867 - IGO Anti-Boycott Act
This bill expands an existing anti-boycott law to include certain boycotts imposed by international governmental organizations (IGOs).

Current law prohibits various actions by U.S. persons (individuals or entities) in relation to boycotts imposed by foreign governments on a country which is friendly to the United States and that is not itself the object of a U.S. boycott. This bill applies those prohibitions to similar boycotts imposed by IGOs.

Prohibited actions include (1) refusing to do business with companies organized under the laws of the boycotted country, if the refusal is pursuant to an agreement with or request from the country or IGO imposing the boycott; (2) refusing to employ any U.S. person on the basis of race, religion, sex, or national origin; and (3) furnishing information about whether someone is associated with charitable or fraternal organizations that support the boycotted country.

The bill also requires the President to annually submit to Congress and make available to the public a report describing these boycotts and listing the foreign countries and international organizations involved in fostering or imposing them.
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The bill expands an existing law which prohibits US persons or businesses from participating in boycotts imposed by foreign countries against allies of the United States. The proposal expands it to also include boycotts by IGOs like the UN or the Council of Europe, or the Arab League. So, US businesses can't participate in boycotts imposed by foreign powers against US allied countries or refuse to employ US citizens who are originally from those countries. It does not ban US citizens from having their own private boycotts on their own initiative.
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Cromwell said:
What industries would ADULTS be proud to work manufacturing in?
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Manufacturing big, expensive things is always prestigious. Think oil field stuff, heavy equipment.

I'd be happy to work in any well-paying manufacturing industry, as long as it wasn't something degenerate. Maybe some men wouldn't want to manufacture tampons or size XXXXXXL lingerie?

But no one wants to show up at their kid's career day and say they manufacture butt plugs. Actually...I'm sure a few would. But normal people anyway.
 
Cromwell said:
The tsars played no small part in squandering things I feel.
500 million people is only useful to the extent that you can arm and supply the military you recruit from it. But to do that you need some serious industry. It’s hard to industrialise when the society you set up is mainly made out of dirt poor farmers. And when you do introduce industry to the cities, half of the workers there become members of a dangerous third column just waiting to chimp out at a moments notice.
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Good thing Russia had the fastest growing industrial base in the world prior to WW1. If it weren't for that traitor Kerensky then Russia likely lasts another year and leaves WW1 with an exploding population and as the hegemon of Europe with both Germany and Austria humbled or outright dismantled.

If anything, the Tsars were far too lenient when it came to liberals and socialists running around. It's clear that the secret police, which only numbered 17,000 compared to the nearly 2,000,000 at the height of the NKVD/KGB, was not enough to uproot insane revolutionaries that would go on to preform unspeakable evils.
 
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