Canada is a failed state

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Chandelier said:
You cannot save people like her. If she's willing to forgive her attacker, she's going to end up like that Leftist guy who got stabbed in the heart. They're physically unable to learn from their mistakes and she's Literally Asking For It at this point. They will walk through life with the attitude of, "Yeah I got raped and put my fellow women at risk, but at least I'm not a racist." Vancouver is deeply liberal, and makes New York shitlibs look like rednecks. Shitlib feminists are just something else.

I posted this in the Happenings thread. Canada's foreign born population is 33%, including non permanent residents like international students (Jeets).
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White pill: despite their fumbled loss, Conservatives increased their vote share for the first time in 40 years.
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We should thank Jesus Christ for the minority.
 
etcetcetc said:
Canada needs to get a great deal worse before it can ever begin to have a revolution or any sort of change for the better. Think Argentina before Milei got in.
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I just don't see revolution is Canada's future. Canadians are far too passive and too lazy (they are the least productive of the G7 nations and have been for decades) too fight for their children futures and the massive Jeet infestation is fully on board with the Liberal agenda.

Not what I think/hope will happen is that Alberta votes to separate, which Ottawa would never allow under ANY circumstances as Alberta is the cash cow of Canada and without those sweet sweet transfer payment the whole Liberal Bribe set up falls apart. Suddenly Ontario and Quebec would be on tap for money rather then getting it and you could guess how well that would go over with the Frogs.

What happens when Albertans vote to leave the Federation and it passes but Ottawa throws up an impossible barrier is anyone guess. I hope I live long enough to see it though, I've been part of the WSM for decades and I would dearly love to see all my time and effort come to fruition.

What most people don't know is that many many UCP reps are part of the Sepertist movement but keep it quiet due to not wanting to split the party again and give the NDP another term. Quite a few Wild Rose and other rural members are part of it but the urban reps are not so doing a Bloq thing wasn't really feasible in Alberta as any splitting of the Con vote ends up with a NDP government and massive infigting.

But now the NDP are buck broken, people are pissed about the Liberal win and time are going to get pretty damn hard and soon so the time may be ripe to start the push for real this time.

The real problem will come from the cities, whose population has exploded with Eastern transplants and Jeets imported into the West. They will fight and vote to stay on the gravy train because Blue is Bad!! I can tell you for sure the current Priemer is open to seperation although she is more interested using it to threaten Ottawa then the actual act but it's a start.
 
Just Another Anon said:
I could see Northern and Eastern BC leaving and joining Alberta with separation if it happens. Alot of people in those areas are unhappy due to the fact the only place that seems to matter in BC is the Fraser Valley with Vancouver and other cities, and the Victoria area. The BC capital is not only physically far away, the BC government basically acts like BC is literally just the 2 main population areas. Alot of the Eastern BC is actually closer to Calgary or the Alberta capital Edmonton not just in terms of location but also in politics and economics.
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Can confirm. I live in south east BC(the kootenays) and generally things are a lot closer to nearby Alberta than our own province.
 
Sweeter and Savoury said:
What happens when Albertans vote to leave the Federation and it passes but Ottawa throws up an impossible barrier is anyone guess. I hope I live long enough to see it though, I've been part of the WSM for decades and I would dearly love to see all my time and effort come to fruition.
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This may be where the US comes in. Alberta would be an incredible pickup for us so backing a succession movement that we can support/hijack would be in our best interest
 
Just Another Anon said:
Liberal White Women are the most retarded people since Hellen Keller.
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Ser Prize said:
Can confirm. I live in south east BC(the kootenays) and generally things are a lot closer to nearby Alberta than our own province.
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I was thinking about moving to that area but I think I might just go for broke and move to south west Alberta. BC housing is not affordable any where really now and if Alberta separates BC will probably be on the hook for the lost money that Ottawa wants. Would rather contribute to a society that has a future.
 
Just Another Anon said:
I was thinking about moving to that area but I think I might just go for broke and move to south west Alberta. BC housing is not affordable any where really now and if Alberta separates BC will probably be on the hook for the lost money that Ottawa wants. Would rather contribute to a society that has a future.
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Fuck no, stay out of here. Area is beautiful but industry is pretty much fucked, everything is turbo expensive and we're somehow getting jeeted still. In my small town jeets have been rolling in buying up businesses and family farms. It's really predatory given how broke people are, but what can you do I guess?
 
Herman Throwaway said:
the feds would, according to their own laws, be required to pay us hundreds of billions of dollars when we leave.
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I wish I possessed your unbridled optimism. The instant Ottawa realized that they owed Alberta money, they would quickly remove that clause. In America, Maryland passed a law removing the statute of limitations on suing for child sexual abuse. This law was intended to break the Catholic Church in Maryland, and it did. However, it was discovered that Maryland would be sued for billions of dollars in damages as well- so the state amended the law to limit their liability. This amendment was passed and signed in two days. I see no reason why Ottawa would act differently. They also may also spitefully demand money before allowing Alberta to leave- assuming they don't just say "lmao no" and send in the army (or whatever passes for it these days).
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Sweeter and Savoury said:
The real problem will come from the cities, whose population has exploded with Eastern transplants and Jeets imported into the West. They will fight and vote to stay on the gravy train because Blue is Bad!! I can tell you for sure the current Priemer is open to seperation although she is more interested using it to threaten Ottawa then the actual act but it's a start.
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That is why it has to get far, far worse. It needs to get so bad as for the gov't to be unable to fulfill the gravy train. There needs to be a crash that makes the Great Depression look like a cake walk, unfortunately it'll just be a very slow crash that seems as if it'll tip into a big crash at any moment. Only to just continually be this slow and gradual crash, always getting worse and never getting better.
 
etcetcetc said:
That is why it has to get far, far worse. It needs to get so bad as for the gov't to be unable to fulfill the gravy train. There needs to be a crash that makes the Great Depression look like a cake walk, unfortunately it'll just be a very slow crash that seems as if it'll tip into a big crash at any moment. Only to just continually be this slow and gradual crash, always getting worse and never getting better.
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With Carney running the show, not just advising or governing a federal bank? I give it 6 months.
 
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Sweeter and Savoury said:
What happens when Albertans vote to leave the Federation and it passes but Ottawa throws up an impossible barrier is anyone guess.
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My take on this is that Ottawa would have no real teeth if Alberta erected the fabled wall to ensure its own autonomy. What are they going to do? Invade us with a demoralized and chronically underfunded/equipped military to force back in. Even if that happened, would the US stand to have that happen in their back yard? One possibility would be for the Yanks to use their diplomatic clout to force Ottawa to the negotiation table and act as mediator, utterly humiliating Canada in the process. Some spergs are screaming "b-b-but, treaty lands!" Again, they need to have the ability to back it up. Minority rights are highly abstract in nature and only exist with the consent of the majority. Take that away and they have nothing. Additionally, why not offer them a better deal? Ottawa screwed over First Nations enough that they should consider going along for the ride.
 
Jetpack Himmler said:
My take on this is that Ottawa would have no real teeth if Alberta erected the fabled wall to ensure its own autonomy. What are they going to do? Invade us with a demoralized and chronically underfunded/equipped military to force back in. Even if that happened, would the US stand to have that happen in their back yard? One possibility would be for the Yanks to use their diplomatic clout to force Ottawa to the negotiation table and act as mediator, utterly humiliating Canada in the process. Some spergs are screaming "b-b-but, treaty lands!" Again, they need to have the ability to back it up. Minority rights are highly abstract in nature and only exist with the consent of the majority. Take that away and they have nothing. Additionally, why not offer them a better deal? Ottawa screwed over First Nations enough that they should consider going along for the ride.
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Alberta actually already has a memo of understanding that the US would provide protection for us in the event of an attack upon declaring independence, but I am not the one who told you.

Also, as to the native issue, the Indian Act was frozen in carbonite by Pierre Trudeau, creating the current apartheid and handout system. All Treaties were to be completed with the reserve lands of each band divided among their members, who would become normalized subjects of the Crown. When Pierre realized how easily their votes could be bought by keeping them poor and ignorant, he put through an amendment that stopped the clock on it and branded anyone who opposed preserving the whole warped system as racist. Essentially, Alberta would have to renegotiate things with each Treaty, but would also be in a position of offering them far greater freedom and opportunity than the feds allow them now.
 
Jetpack Himmler said:
My take on this is that Ottawa would have no real teeth if Alberta erected the fabled wall to ensure its own autonomy. What are they going to do? Invade us with a demoralized and chronically underfunded/equipped military to force back in. Even if that happened, would the US stand to have that happen in their back yard? One possibility would be for the Yanks to use their diplomatic clout to force Ottawa to the negotiation table and act as mediator, utterly humiliating Canada in the process. Some spergs are screaming "b-b-but, treaty lands!" Again, they need to have the ability to back it up. Minority rights are highly abstract in nature and only exist with the consent of the majority. Take that away and they have nothing. Additionally, why not offer them a better deal? Ottawa screwed over First Nations enough that they should consider going along for the ride.
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Ottawa will have to do something. They just couldn't stand by and let the whole prymid scheme that is Canada come crashing down. The elites will not let the cash cow go easily, they will do whatever they have to to keep the grift flowing.

I do think a Liberal PM wouldn't have much of an issue threaten and then sending in the CAF to enforce his will. Trudy set a really bad precedent when he used the War Act to deal with some protesters and lets be honest most Liberal voters would cheer on Ottawa tackling those dirty oily rednecks at long last. If it happens soon do you think Mr Bank of Canada, Mr Laurtine Elite himself would have any moral qualms about bringing the boot down on Western Canada if push came to shove?

The East/West divide is much harsher then people think just because it doesn't come up a lot but ask someone from Ontario what they really think of Alberta and you'd probably be surprised at the venom.

Remember the weaker their hand the more overt and aggressive the stance a Liberal will take. Just look at the tariff thing and how aggressive Trudy was with Trump. Canada doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to fighting the US tariff's but the Liberals were and still are cheering on "striking back" at the US even though it will cripple the Canadian economy overnight and destroy them personally but yet they keep pushing for it because they are that far gone into TDS.

Never ever ever underestimate the lengths the average Liberal supporter will go to to prove he's right. They will cut off their own noses just to spite their face and then cheer about how brave and stunning they are.
 
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