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The pedo friend being cut is 100% legit. iirc Olivia Munn was responsible for the guy getting cut.
Alien: Covenant/Alien Series thoughts.
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Oh yeah, this was confirmed. As well as a BTS photo of Predators riding a tank and working alongside the heroes. Plus an alternate ending where it was revealed to be an adult Newt in the pod at the end (an interview with the actress confirms this) and Shane Black confirmed that the 3rd act had to be reshot but his excuse was "It wasn't scary"
All of that has been confirmed but I think that other dude likes to take some truth and sprinkle in his own batshit retarded ideas.
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There's a whole scene where the dude is rolling animal bones and telling how the killer is from another world. I mean, I like the actor hamming it up like it's his farewell performance, but you cannot ask me to take it seriously.
I maintain in spite of all protests and behind-the-scenes tales that the movie is just dumb fun and not much different from the original two. In fact, all the stories about chaos behind the scene make me think it is even more dumb fun. I'm blown away that the director managed to make a coherent movie at all given what I now learn he was dealing with.
Someone somersaulting out of tree branches and fighting down four armed French trappers is already putting it in the realm of action-fantasy whether it's a man or a woman doing it so I wont judge one case more or harshly than the other. Again, if Arnie can throw a machete through a man's chest from 5m away pinning the guy to a wall behind him, then she can kill a few French dudes. My position isn't that what you say isn't true, it's that people are inconsistent with their expectations of realism and I think in the main they are so either because they see the film as "woke" because it has a female lead or because they have nostalgia for the old movies and discriminate against the new. Prey is more realistic than Predator 1 or 2, so damning it for lacking realism comes across to me as a double standard.
I wont contest @Adamska 's points because he plainly knows more about Native American society than I do. I'll just say that the tribe in the movie are shown as patriarchal, but clearly not to the degree you feel they should be. Her getting punched in the face by a male warrior and beaten and losing to him must not count. Still, given the Comanche's brutal and tough reputation, I can see why the director would pick them for the people to use for his plot.
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"Another world" doesn't mean aliens. He also said "Another world... From THE OTHER SIDE." Come on, man.
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He still knew it wasn't human somehow. Anyway, my point is that it's over the top and you can't convince me it wasn't.
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Everyone in Predator 2 plays it over the top. So your opinion is invalidated.
Case closed.
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Yes. That's my point. Get your own.
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THE OTHER SIDE of the galaxy
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Or the dark side? We need a Predator/Darth Vader crossover to truly know.
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The issue is that she wouldn't be trained to do much more than push out kids and slap fight with the other squaws. There is no way she's going to be trained because the Native Tribes largely didn't have resources to waste on women warriors. So the whole premise is completely ludicrious, more so than some Voodoo Gangleader using his non-visual senses to realize there's a 8-foot tall alien trying to kill him.
It is in zero way, shape, or form "more realistic" unless you are a fart-huffing liberal slurping down the "Two Spirit" lies.
Arnie is a trained merc. Glover is street-tough 80s cop show detective. Their actions are at, to be charitable, the extreme upper end of feasibility. But they are also trained and its realistic that they are trained as such. There is zero chance the protagonist of Prey was trained or really had any opportunity to learn any of the actions demonstrated in the film.
Honestly another human on a Machiko-arc wouldn't be the worst twist to throw in. The movie was already such hot garbage.
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Well lets leave it here. Some people find throwing a machete through someone's chest and pinning them to the wall less suspension-of-disbelief breaking than the chieftan's daughter learning to hunt, and I am the other way around.
This is the Alien thread so lets just get back to that. I've made my case, I believe I've supported it. Not my mission on Earth to make others agree.
This is the Alien thread so lets just get back to that. I've made my case, I believe I've supported it. Not my mission on Earth to make others agree.
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I would like to note that just by changing the tribe to the Apache or Crow, you'd solve the majority of these problems. Several clans and tribes among the Apache allowed and in some cases encouraged women to hunt things like small game for example. Hell, there's even a case where a woman among their tribes fucking murking a Comanche chief out of vengeance for killing her husband (via deception and seduction but still), and escaped with her own horse and spurs out of the camp. She later joined her second husband in Geronimo's warband, fighting among them.
And the Crow is one of the tribes that genuinely did have two spirit as a concept to provide roles to those who didn't fit the gender norms. And that'd still fit more for French trappers given they're located among the same reaches you'd see the Metis.
Fine with that, since I'm more a fan of this series anyways.
Will virulently disagree with 2018's Predator being good though, since there's too much bad comedy for it to be good to me. I was out just from the tourettes guy being a more painful version of Shane Black's character from the first film.
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Well I'll meet you half-way on that as I only saw it the once when it came out and both the autism sub-plot and the actual ending with the suit was absurd. As was the Predator's escape from the facility - they're tough, they're not Superman. The disconnect here may in part simply be that I don't think Predator 1 or 2 are good movies either so I'm not hailing The Predator as a masterpiece. I just don't see it as much different to the first two which other people seem to like and I don't really get. I'm at risk of re-opening the topic so I'll leave it there - just occurred to me that might explain things better.
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Predator 1's first hour doesn't hold up well at all. It also begins by showing the Predator ship land on Earth so that retards in the audience are immediately clued in that this is a film with an alien monster in it. The action sequences are so over the top as are the 'badass' quotes. But this was the style of nearly every action movie. Stuff like Terminator, James Bond, and Die Hard are filled with characters throwing out stuff for the audience to quote that are fourth wall breaking. Predator lets you know pretty quickly it's more of a satirical film when one of the leads is carrying an 85lbs mini-gun through the jungles.
Predator 2 is a joke of a movie like Alien 4 where it's clearly aimed at an immature and unsophisticated audience. But the series has always been campy and ridiculous. Less horror and more comedy. So fans of 80s and 90s actions movie embrace that stuff. The cocaine filled gangsters acting like Scarface fighting with Predators. An old lady just oblivious to a giant space alien destroying her apartment. Cringe lines for 12-year-olds like "pussy mouth". The audience is supposed to be laughing at these films and characters. When El Scorpio inhales a mountain of cocaine into his nose then gets mowed down by a Predator it's not meant to be serious. Too many Alien fans want the Predator franchise to be as serious not realizing it has always leaned into comedy.
Predator 1 and 2 fans usually lose their minds over any criticism of the films. Because they feel like you are attacking the 80s and 90s actions films that they like. And they take it personally.
The second hour of Predator is a more serious film. It's closer to stuff like Alien or Event Horizon in that the main character is trying to survive and not goofing around and throwing out quips for the audience. But everything else sets the tone for the franchise as being for the less serious minded. Most likely why the Alien franchise tends to attract the more serious teams of filmmakers and performs better at the box office.
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I think that was added at the last minute or something. When I first saw the movie(rental, probably) I must have missed that part because for me the movie had that genuine wtf moment.
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Yeah, because you're wrong and there will be no disparaging Predator 2.
Opinion (including ALL opinions past and future) instantly fucking discarded.
If this isn't quality cinema then you're a god damn moron. End of story.
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The cheeks and forehead look too smooth and blurry, hopefully the effects aren't finished yet
Pure insanity. Predator's first hour, like its second hour, is kino af
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When in doubt (and there's Ayylmaos about), check AVPgalaxy: Predator 4 Deleted Scenes:
Human-allied Predators:
(boatload of concept art for the "emissary" Predators and Predator dog)
Ripley or Newt (interview) :
Not filmed: Dutch showing up at the end (see attached pdf).
Olivia Munn getting hit on by a pedophile:
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Right, that's all the shit I already mentioned. None of what the other insane shit the dweeb sperged about has been mentioned. Also, it was confirmed that it was Newt.
Schwarzenegger was offered the cameo but he turned it down because the script was horrible. Plus he probably wanted more money.
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I feel robbed. We could have had something gloriously retarded. A military predator buddy cop aliens movie with Arnold.