US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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We need to get back to this. That's why I think we need to copy the soviet system of handing out medals left right and center. I wanna see deportation speedruns for medals. 100 mexicans deported
I'm not sure how medals would work, but bringing in a bounty system would be pretty neat. Get your bounty hunter license (yes, I know it's primarily aimed at bail escapees), follow the law and then have people go at it...

How much do Farmers think is a fair reward for bringing in a person who is confirmed to be an illegal and deported?
for a modern audience
I can't wait for a time when people are unable to understand/relate to images unless they are in Ghibli format.
 
A bit late but I'm fine with the government being "pretty sure" an illegal foreigner is a gang member and acting on it. Fuck I'd be fine if an ICE agent had it revealed to him in a dream. They invaded the country. They decided to completely avoid any due process getting in, they shouldn't expect any going out.
 
Man, everyone thinks I'm a nazi just because I tattooed hitlers face on my face and got a kick-ass eagle holding up the buddist luck symbol on my chest. I swear, people are so judgmental!
A Hitler tattoo? At this time of day? In this part of the country? During the post-war period? Localized entirely on your face!!?

 
I still don't understand why this guy in particular is the person the entire left has decided to rally around.

He's fat
He's not good looking
He's covered in gang tattoos

He is not a very sympathetic person. Was literally everyone else unavailable? They couldn't find one woman or child to use as propaganda?
 
Hot take but anyone with knuckle or face tattoos should be deported regardless of their legal status in the country. Uncivilized savages and ghetto gangbangers shouldn't be welcome in the Western world
 
The fact that the Trump Administration also has the balls to post Fauci's preemptive pardon from Biden is just fantastic.

Would be nice if this website wasn't performative and we finally start seeing some of these people face the music ...
That all depends on how the pardon fight is going. So far has Trump called out the last day pardons (which includes Fauci's) as being fraudulent and there for null and void. Biden hasn't challenged the accusations at all even though it would be an easy dunk against Trump. I think they waiting till Biden dies or is totally lost to dementia so he can't retroactively claim he signed the pardons and complicate things.

I have to laugh at how stupidly fake this picture is. First of all El Salvador is incredibly hot right now, and the Senator is dressed up in a suit. They probably have a giant fan following his ass around to keep him from collapsing. They are drinking coffee, hot coffee, in a place where it’s over ninety. Yeah okay. Then you have this stage of them having a heartfelt conversation as if these two people have anything genuine to say to each other.
Also it is always photos. Does the dude not speak English? Why haven't we had a heartfelt speech from him yet?
 
I'm not sure how medals would work, but bringing in a bounty system would be pretty neat. Get your bounty hunter license (yes, I know it's primarily aimed at bail escapees), follow the law and then have people go at it...

How much do Farmers think is a fair reward for bringing in a person who is confirmed to be an illegal and deported?

I can't wait for a time when people are unable to understand/relate to images unless they are in Ghibli format.
They should have to cook you a specific ethnic food of your choice and if they do not satisfy then they are deported. After all according to leftoids every illegal is a 5 star michellin chef.
 
I still don't understand why this guy in particular is the person the entire left has decided to rally around.

He's fat
He's not good looking
He's covered in gang tattoos

He is not a very sympathetic person. Was literally everyone else unavailable? They couldn't find one woman or child to use as propaganda?
You have no idea how retarded and hated the local government is in maryland. Our governor and mayor turned off the ability to view the amount of reactions on their facebook posts.

-Edit: Oh! And the key bridge had a few workers stationed on it who died when it collapsed, if you go through the names every single one is more than likely an illegal. The mayor keeps calling them brave, patriotic, and outstanding dead US citizens. Telling people to donate to a fundraiser for their families. He had already done one fundraiser for hundreds of thousands of dollars and the families said they never received a penny from 'em.
 
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It hasn't been 100 days yet and news outlets are already scraping the bottom of the barrel...
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For anyone OOL: ChatGPT is not designed to KNOW facts. It's just a very sophisticated engine that tries to guess what words should be strung together to answer your query.

They decided to completely avoid any due process getting in, they shouldn't expect any going out.
Even if they are white/european/"le hekking based". Did you enter the country illegally? OK, cool, now kindly get out.

I still don't understand why this guy in particular is the person the entire left has decided to rally around.
For the same reason the left circled their wagons around George Floyd: Garcia is a "social pariah". And if you are going to have a social revolution of any kind then you need exactly these kinds of people (the criminals, the freaks, and the outcasts) who have nothing to lose to be in your front ranks.
 
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It hasn't been 100 days yet and news outlets are already scraping the bottom of the barrel...
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For anyone OOL: ChatGPT is not designed to KNOW facts. It's just a very sophisticated engine that tries to guess what words should be strung together to answer your query.


Even if they are white/european/"le hekking based". Did you enter the country illegally? OK, cool, now kindly get out.


For the same reason the left circled their wagons around George Floyd: Garcia is a "social pariah". And if you are going to have a social revolution of any kind then you need exactly these kinds of people (the criminals, the freaks, and the outcasts) who have nothing to lose to be in your front ranks.
They don't know that Trump, always being a oneupsman is doing FIVE SCOOPS. Five beautiful scoops, can you believe if folks?
 
How much do Farmers think
I know you're new here and getting settled in, but the preferred endonym is Kikes.

Edit: also sorry I didn't mention this before, but you're a nigger; post archive links, I'm not fucking clicking on the latin times again
 
It hasn't been 100 days yet and news outlets are already scraping the bottom of the barrel...
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For anyone OOL: ChatGPT is not designed to KNOW facts. It's just a very sophisticated engine that tries to guess what words should be strung together to answer your query.


Even if they are white/european/"le hekking based". Did you enter the country illegally? OK, cool, now kindly get out.


For the same reason the left circled their wagons around George Floyd: Garcia is a "social pariah". And if you are going to have a social revolution of any kind then you need exactly these kinds of people (the criminals, the freaks, and the outcasts) who have nothing to lose to be in your front ranks.
The only problems you should ever attempt to have AI solve for you is problems you can solve for your self but don't feel like doing yourself and even then only as a jumping off point, if you want to be right you should double check everything and keep in mind that the biggest problem with LLM's is that telling a compelling enough lie is identical to solving the problem as far as the math is concerned.
 
I still don't understand why this guy in particular is the person the entire left has decided to rally around.
I saw a post that explained this phenomenon very well imo.

To paraphrase, whenever a leftist comes to a crossroads, they will always choose the most damaging option to society. They could pick from hundreds of deportees, but they specifically choose to champion the violent gangbanger BECAUSE he is a violent gangbanger. It's no coincidence, the fact he is absolute scum makes him more valuable in the eyes of the leftist.

You see the exact same phenomenon when nogs get shot by police. There are legitimate cases of cops brutalizing innocent people, even an innocent nog on occasion as hard as it may be to believe. Yet somehow, not once have they ever championed a legitimately good nog. It is always without exception violent thugs like saint floyd they put on a pedestal.

This is no accident. Leftists make a lot more sense when you understood that their one true principle is hatred of the west and all it entails (freedom, whites, Christianity, stable families, capitalism, meritocracy, etc). Once you filter their actions through that lens, their behavior makes perfect sense.
 
I have to laugh at how stupidly fake this picture is. First of all El Salvador is incredibly hot right now, and the Senator is dressed up in a suit. They probably have a giant fan following his ass around to keep him from collapsing. They are drinking coffee, hot coffee, in a place where it’s over ninety. Yeah okay. Then you have this stage of them having a heartfelt conversation as if these two people have anything genuine to say to each other.
The wetback doesn't speak English. They literally can't say anything to each other, genuine or otherwise.
 
It hasn't been 100 days yet and news outlets are already scraping the bottom of the barrel...
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For anyone OOL: ChatGPT is not designed to KNOW facts. It's just a very sophisticated engine that tries to guess what words should be strung together to answer your query.


Even if they are white/european/"le hekking based". Did you enter the country illegally? OK, cool, now kindly get out.


For the same reason the left circled their wagons around George Floyd: Garcia is a "social pariah". And if you are going to have a social revolution of any kind then you need exactly these kinds of people (the criminals, the freaks, and the outcasts) who have nothing to lose to be in your front ranks.
I asked grok and I think it’s pretty thorough. It won’t go as far as Chan posters green lining and developing scales, but here, I’m going to put a billion words behind a spoiler

Quantifying the plausibility of President Donald Trump’s physical exam results based solely on his appearance is challenging due to the subjective nature of visual assessment and the lack of direct access to medical data. However, I can attempt an analysis by cross-referencing the reported health metrics from the April 13, 2025, White House physical exam with observations about his public appearance, drawing on general medical knowledge and public sentiment. This approach has limitations, as appearance alone cannot confirm or refute clinical data, but it can provide a framework for evaluating plausibility.

### Reported Health Metrics (April 13, 2025, White House Memorandum)
- **Age**: 78 years
- **Weight**: 224 pounds
- **Height**: 6 feet 3 inches (BMI: ~28, upper end of overweight)
- **Blood Pressure**: 128/74 mmHg (normal)
- **Total Cholesterol**: 140 mg/dL (optimal)
- **Cognitive Test**: 30/30 on Montreal Cognitive Assessment (MoCA, indicating no cognitive impairment)
- **Physical Activity**: Described as active, with “frequent victories in golf events”
- **Overall Assessment**: “Excellent cognitive and physical health, fully fit” for presidential duties

### Step 1: Visual Observations of Trump’s Appearance in 2025
Trump’s public appearances in 2025 (e.g., UFC 314 event in Miami on April 12, 2025) provide some visual cues:[](https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/12/politics/trump-ufc-miami-fight/index.html)
- **Body Composition**: Photos and videos show Trump with a relatively heavy build, consistent with his reported 224 pounds at 6’3”. His BMI of ~28 aligns with an overweight but not obese classification. However, some X posts suggest he may use slimming garments or appear heavier than reported (e.g., @Kayfabe32363018: “Trump wears… a slimming girdle”), which could imply a discrepancy in perceived versus actual weight.
- **Mobility and Posture**: Trump is seen walking, waving, and engaging actively at events, suggesting functional mobility for a 78-year-old. However, critics on X note he appears to have difficulty bending or moving fluidly (e.g., @Astroliner86: “can’t even bend right”), which could question the “excellent physical health” claim if mobility is limited.
- **Skin and Facial Appearance**: Trump’s characteristic orange-tinted skin and makeup use are noted (e.g., @Kayfabe32363018: “orange makeup”). This affects perceived vitality but is cosmetic, not medically relevant. His facial appearance shows typical signs of aging (wrinkles, sagging), but no overt signs of severe illness.
- **Energy Levels**: At events like the UFC appearance, Trump is described as receiving “raucous applause” and engaging with allies, indicating stamina for public settings. No reports mention visible fatigue or disorientation, supporting claims of physical capability.[](https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/12/politics/trump-ufc-miami-fight/index.html)

### Step 2: Quantifying Plausibility
To assess plausibility, I’ll evaluate key metrics against appearance-based observations and general medical expectations for a 78-year-old man, assigning a subjective plausibility score (0–100%) based on alignment between reported data, visual cues, and medical norms. Scores reflect how likely the reported metric seems given the evidence.

1. **Weight (224 pounds, BMI ~28)**:
- **Visual Evidence**: Trump’s build in 2025 photos appears stocky but not severely obese, consistent with an overweight BMI. Historical reports (e.g., 244 pounds in 2020) suggest a 20-pound weight loss, which is plausible with dietary changes or medical intervention.
- **Medical Context**: A 78-year-old man can maintain this weight with an active lifestyle, though golf alone (cited as his primary activity) is low-intensity and may not fully explain the reported fitness.
- **Criticism**: X posts question the weight, suggesting he appears heavier or uses slimming aids. This introduces doubt but lacks concrete evidence.
- **Plausibility Score**: 80%. The weight aligns with his visible build and prior trends, but public skepticism and reliance on golf as exercise slightly lower confidence.

2. **Blood Pressure (128/74 mmHg)**:
- **Visual Evidence**: No visible signs (e.g., extreme pallor, tremors) contradict normal blood pressure. His ability to attend high-energy events suggests cardiovascular stability.
- **Medical Context**: Normal blood pressure is achievable at 78 with medication, diet, or lifestyle changes. Trump’s reported stress-heavy lifestyle (e.g., political events, legal battles) makes this value optimistic but not impossible.
- **Criticism**: No specific visual or X-based claims directly challenge this metric.
- **Plausibility Score**: 90%. The value is medically feasible, and his active public schedule supports cardiovascular health, though stress factors temper absolute certainty.

3. **Total Cholesterol (140 mg/dL)**:
- **Visual Evidence**: Appearance offers no direct insight into cholesterol levels, as they’re not visually detectable.
- **Medical Context**: A cholesterol level of 140 mg/dL is optimal and suggests excellent lipid management, often requiring statins, diet, or genetics. Trump’s reported fast-food preferences (historically documented) make this value surprising unless medicated.
- **Criticism**: No specific challenges on X, but general distrust of the report’s optimism (e.g., @SteveSchmidtSES: “unrealistic”) applies indirectly.
- **Plausibility Score**: 70%. The value is possible with medical intervention, but Trump’s dietary history and lack of transparency about medications reduce confidence.

4. **Cognitive Health (MoCA 30/30)**:
- **Visual Evidence**: Trump’s public speeches and event interactions show no obvious signs of cognitive decline (e.g., disorientation, memory lapses). He engages coherently, as seen at the UFC event.[](https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/12/politics/trump-ufc-miami-fight/index.html)
- **Medical Context**: A perfect MoCA score at 78 is possible, especially for someone with high baseline cognitive function and no neurodegenerative conditions. However, age-related decline is common, and stress could impact performance.
- **Criticism**: X posts don’t directly dispute cognitive claims, but general skepticism about the report’s rosy tone applies.
- **Plausibility Score**: 85%. His public behavior supports strong cognitive function, but a perfect score is optimistic without independent testing.

5. **Overall Physical Health (“Excellent”)**:
- **Visual Evidence**: Trump’s ability to attend events, walk, and engage publicly suggests above-average physical function for his age. However, X posts highlight perceived mobility issues (e.g., @Astroliner86) and cosmetic enhancements (e.g., @Kayfabe32363018), which could mask underlying issues.
- **Medical Context**: “Excellent” health at 78 typically requires robust cardiovascular, musculoskeletal, and metabolic health. Golf and public appearances don’t fully substantiate this, and historical reports of limited exercise raise questions.
- **Criticism**: X posts strongly doubt the report’s optimism, with some calling it “lies” or unrealistic given his age and appearance.
- **Plausibility Score**: 65%. His functional public presence supports decent health, but the “excellent” claim feels exaggerated given age, limited exercise, and public skepticism.

### Step 3: Aggregate Plausibility
Averaging the plausibility scores (80% + 90% + 70% + 85% + 65% = 390 / 5 = **78%**) suggests the reported results are moderately plausible based on appearance and context. The strongest alignment is in blood pressure and cognitive health, where Trump’s public behavior and lack of overt symptoms support the claims. The weakest alignment is in the “excellent” overall health claim, where visual cues (potential mobility issues, cosmetic enhancements) and reliance on low-intensity golf cast doubt.

### Step 4: Limitations and Caveats
- **Appearance-Based Analysis**: Visual assessment cannot measure internal metrics like cholesterol or blood pressure. Cosmetic factors (makeup, clothing) may skew perceptions.
- **Subjective Skepticism**: X posts reflect public distrust but lack hard evidence (e.g., @EdoNaLife’s photo comparison is speculative). They highlight sentiment, not facts.
- **Historical Context**: Past exaggerations in Trump’s health reports (e.g., Dr. Bornstein’s 2015 letter) fuel skepticism, but the 2025 report’s specificity adds some credibility.
- **No Independent Verification**: Without raw medical records or third-party oversight, plausibility relies on incomplete data.

### Conclusion
Based on Trump’s 2025 public appearances, the reported health metrics are **78% plausible** on average. His functional mobility, coherent public engagement, and stocky but not obese build align reasonably with the reported weight, blood pressure, and cognitive health. However, the optimal cholesterol level and “excellent” overall health claim are less convincing due to his age, dietary history, and limited exercise, compounded by public skepticism on X. The results are within the realm of possibility, especially with medical interventions (e.g., statins, blood pressure meds), but the report’s optimistic tone and lack of transparency invite doubt. For a definitive assessment, independent medical records or further corroboration would be needed.[](https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/12/politics/trump-ufc-miami-fight/index.html)
 
This was streamed about 4 hours as of this posting.
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You begin to notice a pattern with the comments.

"This is what leadership looks like."

And then there's this:
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She (that profile pic is sus) has been spamming this, even comparing this bullshit to Melania. Melania was already a naturalized citizen long before marrying Trump. This is easily found information, so how stupid are these people to think they can just keep spouting this lie.
Crossed from this thread.
 
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