US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Because China uses state subsidies and targets our industry in the manufacturing version of what business guys call “hostile takeover.”

This is all recent, too. I’d gladly go back to buying Japanese consumer electronics like the 90’s and 2000’s.

It’s disgusting to have chinesium around
And that is absolutely a fair take. I too would prefer to buy European products, when they are available and especially for a reasonable price. The collective problem for all of the west is that we have sold our soul for the Chinese to improve our lives, to the point that we are now dependant on that nation. A nation run by authoritarians, communists (though in name only), who are no doubt eyeing global domination at some point.

The idea of bringing back production and manufacturing from China to the US and Europe is something we should strive towards. I merely disagree with the way Trump is doing it, because I don't see how it really going to produce results. Instead, it just makes us all poorer.
 
>Trump hikes China tariffs to 30% and then 84%
>China reciprocates
>Trump hikes tariffs to 145%
>China reciprocates
>Trump announces that he wants Xi to call him
>China does nothing
>Trump announces he would be ready to "make a deal"
>China does nothing
>Trump rolls back tariffs

can the ppl suffering from trump dicksucking syndrome let me know how this is helping americans? i cant see it
Who is giving you faggots the same script?

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And that is absolutely a fair take. I too would prefer to buy European products, when they are available and especially for a reasonable price. The collective problem for all of the west is that we have sold our soul for the Chinese to improve our lives, to the point that we are now dependant on that nation. A nation run by authoritarians, communists (though in name only), who are no doubt eyeing global domination at some point.

The idea of bringing back production and manufacturing from China to the US and Europe is something we should strive towards. I merely disagree with the way Trump is doing it, because I don't see how it really going to produce results. Instead, it just makes us all poorer.
Your entire worldview is "it's not currently happenning which is proof that it can't happen", that same mentality has cucked the entire western world for 20 years. It's exactly what trump is trying to change.
 
Should we be flattered someone thinks we're important enough to be targeted for psyops, even if they're lame and gay ones?
 
youre right, thank you! and how does this help americans?
You type exactly like a wumao.

Sarcastic statement with exclamation.
Follow up with vague rhetorical question.
Seeming to think there's something deeper to what you're saying than there is.
"blah blah blah blah.... FOOLISH!" type of shit
"I'm totally not angry, just confused as to how others can be so stupid? I really want to actually HELP you but you refuse my help? Don't you know my way is going to be better for all involved and your way is only harming yourself? This is why I use so many ??? i am confused by your foolishness??"

The only thing you're missing is 😂😂😂
 
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Literally after a few minutes of research
"The exemption, which comes after the Trump administration on Wednesday imposed a minimum tariff rate of 145% on Chinese goods imported to the United States, does not include the 20% tariff on Chinese goods for the country’s role in the fentanyl trade"
So everything from China is still tariffed 20% they're just exempt from 145%.
I would also like to point out that automobile industries could not compete in the EU with just a 10% tariff, so 20% is much more impactful than you think.
 
Literally after a few minutes of research
"The exemption, which comes after the Trump administration on Wednesday imposed a minimum tariff rate of 145% on Chinese goods imported to the United States, does not include the 20% tariff on Chinese goods for the country’s role in the fentanyl trade"
So everything from China is still tariffed 20% they're just exempt from 145%.
I wonder how much these dorks are getting paid.
Would be so sad if it turned out they did it for free.
 
Your entire worldview is "it's not currently happenning which is proof that it can't happen", that same mentality has cucked the entire western world for 20 years. It's exactly what trump is trying to change.
And the problem is, the way he's trying to change stuff is most likely not going to work. The only way for it to work, is for America is going to be set on Trump-aligned Republican dictatorship for the next few decades. What are the odds on that?

So instead, he's merely doing you (and everyone else) damage, that is most likely going to be reverted when the Democrats are going to be in power in 4 years if this keeps up. Or even if they won't be, Republicans who are not liking this current trend.

We are talking about setting up a trend for the next half a century. This is not the way to do it.
 
And that is absolutely a fair take. I too would prefer to buy European products, when they are available and especially for a reasonable price. The collective problem for all of the west is that we have sold our soul for the Chinese to improve our lives,
That never happened
to the point that we are now dependant on that nation.
A dependency that often amounts to “it would be inconvenient to do something else.”
A nation run by authoritarians, communists (though in name only), who are no doubt eyeing global domination at some point.
Yes, “communism with Chinese characteristics” is actually more like fascism. Some form of pseudo autonomous industry is allowed because it would require the rulers to do actual work to manage everything, but industry must be completely deprived of any sort of property rights for its supposed owners. The state is the owner, in terms of rights.
The idea of bringing back production and manufacturing from China to the US and Europe is something we should strive towards. I merely disagree with the way Trump is doing it, because I don't see how it really going to produce results. Instead, it just makes us all poorer.
Performing value added operations is where wealth COMES from. You don’t lose wealth from repatriating industry.

Imagine the model from the bottom up. Countries create wealth WITHOUT trade, by resource gathering and the transformation of resources into goods with value. The whole reason money was invented in the first place was to represent those goods and keep track of trade.

If your country is specifically lacking something, then try to trade something you’re NOT lacking for it.

What the Chinese model does is create the impression of scarcity by putting domestic manufacturing out of business, and then capital looks and thinks “it wouldn’t be profitable to do this while I’d be outcompeted by Chinese industry.” The message that comes out is “sorry, we’d lose money” but that’s illusory if you remember where wealth actually comes from. Put up the tariff and don’t let them fuck you, because you’re subjecting your entire system to net revenue loss as the outflow goes to China

Gdp figures, markets, all the normal shit you see on the news all carefully select the framing and perspective they want you to see. If you want to see the actual effect on YOU, look at something like home price to income ratio.

In 1980 in the US, the median household income was $20k and the median home price was $40k.

In 2025, the median household income is $80k, so it increased fourfold. The median home price is $400k, a tenfold increase.

How did importing Chinese shit help us?
 
I would rather Trump try and fail to change things than continue this meek managed decline where we wind up serfs under the domain of hypercapitalists and their jeet and tranny janissaries.
 
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