💬 Off-Topic Things Troons Have Ruined

[teriyakiburns]

Small get-together at the pub with a few friends. We're sharing stupid parody shit we find on youtube. I rec a stupendium song to someone, and out of the blue the guy across the table says - word for word - "Stupendium is non-binary now and this is how YOU find out haha". He even said "haha" with this smug sideways grin they always get when they're being disingenuous cunts. He got very offended when I asked why the fuck I needed to know this fact. So now my silly game parody songs are mildly ruined, but also my opinion of that particular person is right down in the gutter and any future pub nights are going to be awkward for a while. Fucking idiot.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Being silly. Especially on the Internet.

I don't even think the troons themselves can be entirely blamed for it, though they do share some of it.

 

[Abnormality]

guilty gear (and fighting games as a whole)

 

[Madonna_Claws]

Both of them are culpable for this, but unique/quirky haircuts. I know it's always been alt to dye unusual colors in your hair, but at least you used to be like "I just wanted to see how it looks" or whatever. If I dyed my hair in Current Year, looking the way I look, everyone's going to assume I've got pronouns.

This. I'd really like to dye my hair a pastel shade, probably pink as it'd suit my colouring more than blue/green, but now... no fucking way.

Also got rid of a really nice tiedye t-shirt I'd had for years because it was in troon colours. I liked that t-shirt, goddammit.

What else has it ruined? So much, not least certain people's sanity (both pro and anti).

 

[Smoking King]

I like visual novels. It feels like all the fucking “women” I meet in that community are gross troons. I have to see them, I have to work with them, I hate it. I assume they’ve infested a lot of gaming communities as well, feels like nowadays when I see a “girl gamer” they are never not a troon. I’m just so tired. They act like they know everything about being a woman and it feels so alienating.

 

[Starefag]

Tomboys, a crime for which they can never be forgiven.

I seethe with rage every time a Pooner talks about "I was always a tomboy"
Well, not really. But it's this quiet dread that men and women are ironically locked even moreso into gender roles under troondom due to any deviation from stereotype being seen as having the Tranny Brainworms.

 

[Abnormality]

I like visual novels. It feels like all the fucking “women” I meet in that community are gross troons. I have to see them, I have to work with them, I hate it. I assume they’ve infested a lot of gaming communities as well, feels like nowadays when I see a “girl gamer” they are never not a troon. I’m just so tired. They act like they know everything about being a woman and it feels so alienating.

any discussion about umineko and fate have been poisoned. i seriously doubt that either ryukishi or nasu (japanese men) were thinking about modern american identity politics back when they made their works during the 2000’s but troons insist it’s about them.

 

[DSHK]

I like visual novels. It feels like all the fucking “women” I meet in that community are gross troons. I have to see them, I have to work with them, I hate it. I assume they’ve infested a lot of gaming communities as well, feels like nowadays when I see a “girl gamer” they are never not a troon. I’m just so tired. They act like they know everything about being a woman and it feels so alienating.

Any "woman" who goes out of her way to reveal her gender online is usually a troon. Real women dont have she/her in their discord profiles.

 

[Kiwisee]

They have poisoned the well when it comes to late 2000s alt fashion. As someone who was a teen in the late 2000s, seeing trannies adopt the striped socks, jean shorts and hoodies has been nothing short of horrific. I wouldn't be surprised if, especially in the case of millennial trannies, they're trying to look like their middle school crush.

They also have ruined the pale blue, white and pale pink color combination. It used to be a nice combination which has been perverted.

 

[Gaysquirt]

Hacking, the ethical side, Infosec field- lots of troons

 

[Deepland Bystander]

Any "woman" who goes out of her way to reveal her gender online is usually a troon. Real women dont have she/her in their discord profiles.

It's always funny how troons (both MtF and FtM) always out themselves by putting pronouns in their bio online, I joke that if you see someone with pronouns on, their actual sex is likely to be opposite. Especially true if they go hard on saying that they're women/men/girl/boy.

 

[Pizza Time]

I wouldn't be surprised if, especially in the case of millennial trannies, they're trying to look like their middle school crush.

This has been my running theory for a while now. It's the same reasoning as choosing to change their name to the name of their childhood crush. It's just pedophilic skinwalking.

 

[Spangled Drongo]

It's always funny how troons (both MtF and FtM) always out themselves by putting pronouns in their bio online, I joke that if you see someone with pronouns on, their actual sex is likely to be opposite. Especially true if they go hard on saying that they're women/men/girl/boy.

Until a famous person does it to be an 'ally' - I very clearly remember the whole drama between Pedro Pascal and his Mandalorian co-star Gina Carano because she thought his 'he/him' in his Twitter bio was ridiculous and she decided to respond by putting beep/bop/boop in hers to poke fun at the practice (honestly good on her, shit deserves to be mocked and absolutely nobody should feel forced to say anything they disagree with), and I highly doubt Pascal is secretly a pooner though I do believe either his brother or cousin is MTF and thus he's gone in hard on the whole ally thing.

The whole practice of sharing pronouns is absolutely ridiculous, though - vast majority of the time they're going to correspond to the person's biological sex and it's super rare to meet someone whose appearance is so androgynous you can't tell at a glance what to call him/her. And if someone does the "uhm ACKSHUALLY it's they/them" the default answer should be to tell them to fuck off.

 

[DSHK]

They have poisoned the well when it comes to late 2000s alt fashion. As someone who was a teen in the late 2000s, seeing trannies adopt the striped socks, jean shorts and hoodies has been nothing short of horrific. I wouldn't be surprised if, especially in the case of millennial trannies, they're trying to look like their middle school crush.

They also have ruined the pale blue, white and pale pink color combination. It used to be a nice combination which has been perverted.

I was excited at first to learn that 2000s emo/scene was back a few years ago only to discover that troons have ruined it. Tankies and troons need to be dealt with, theyve ruined every niche community imaginable.

 

[Jacques1194]

I do wonder though what you mean by HCs, what does that stand for

Sorry for late comment and not OP but HCs stand for headcanons. A bit of a rant, but I always thought the definition of headcanon was a hypothesis about what you believe a character is like with limited evidence given, but it would fit said character. For example, before Post Covid became a special, people headcanon that Bebe Stevens from South Park will grow up to be a fashion designer. There's limited evidence for it but it would fit Bebe's character because she's into clothing and makeup on the show. While we dont see her career, it was strongly hinted that she did in fact grow up to be a fashion designer because her shirt has "Mary May" on it which is referencing the real life clothing brand "Mary Kay". Nowadays, the term headcanon feels like it lost all meaning. I've seen people in the South Park fandom headcanon Bebe as a lesbian or a trans woman with 0 reasoning behind it. Of course they say its for fun, but again I don't understand whats fun about it when its something thats never going to happen in canon. Especially since Matt and Trey love Bebe's toxic relationship with Clyde. At that point they might as well make their own OCs.

 

[Spangled Drongo]

Sorry for late comment and not OP but HCs stand for headcanons. A bit of a rant, but I always thought the definition of headcanon was a hypothesis about what you believe a character is like with limited evidence given, but it would fit said character. For example, before Post Covid became a special, people headcanon that Bebe Stevens from South Park will grow up to be a fashion designer. There's limited evidence for it but it would fit Bebe's character because she's into clothing and makeup on the show. While we dont see her career, it was strongly hinted that she did in fact grow up to be a fashion designer because her shirt has "Mary May" on it which is referencing the real life clothing brand "Mary Kay". Nowadays, the term headcanon feels like it lost all meaning. I've seen people in the South Park fandom headcanon Bebe as a lesbian or a trans woman with 0 reasoning behind it. Of course they say its for fun, but again I don't understand whats fun about it when its something thats never going to happen in canon. Especially since Matt and Trey love Bebe's toxic relationship with Clyde. At that point they might as well make their own OCs.

Sometimes the headcanon also becomes so popular it becomes canon in the eyes of the fandom - say the headcanon is that a character is gay, possibly dating their canonical rival (since that's been a popular pairing since the dawn of online fandom) and they'll all get mad if you ship that character with someone of the opposite sex. Or if they've collectively decided a character is a troon, it becomes forbidden to depict said character in fan fiction/art as a normal man/woman even though canon says nothing about said character's anatomy.

In hindsight this sort of thing is what caused me to leave Tumblr in the first place way back in the day, it got to the stage where it was no longer about having fun but about labelling everything in the name of "representation". It's the same reason I hate the term "coded" (essentially meaning implied to belong to a specific group but not explicitly stated) with a passion, it's all about these people looking for validation in their vidya and cartoons, since they're insecure and nobody in their real life has time for their gender nonsense.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

Fiction, and the fact that fanfiction seems to be such an enormous driver of this stuff. That, and pandering to the crowd (or ‘fandom’).

We all know most tv series rapidly run out of ideas after season one or two, but what used to devolve into boring interpersonal drama is now some bullshit about gender or sexuality too.

Fiction as a published entity is utterly fucked. So many publishers only want tranny disabled foreign black queer characters, especially in books for young people. The craft of world-building, character creation, or the skill of being able to describe and entire scene from emotions to colours and textures simply via words - it’s gone, all of it. Chucked away for pandering to the lowest common denominator of what’s popular online.

As a personal note, the few times I’ve had the misfortune to read fan fiction it’s been fucking terrible. Entire thousands and thousands of words dedicated to interpersonal not-even-drama, and nothing happens. Either that or it’s insane shit about the worst kinds of violence and perversion for no reason other than to shock (or wank). Just hope that film and tv never get any of these ‘writers’ onboard.

 

[Quartermaster]

Sorry for late comment and not OP but HCs stand for headcanons.

say the headcanon is that a character is gay, possibly dating their canonical rival (since that's been a popular pairing since the dawn of online fandom) and they'll all get mad if you ship that character with someone of the opposite sex.

I am familiar with the term, here is what I think it means.

I thought a headcanon is that you take an already established character who has lots of traits and relationships with other characters but the source material doesn't give you every single detail.

I struggle to come up with an example character just now but a headcanon I heard about was actually about Solid Snake from Metal Gear Solid.

In MGS1 there is an optional briefing cutscene you can watch, in it Snake gets to know that the leader of the terrorists, Liquid Snake, looks exactly like him save for a slightly different skin tone.
This is the only difference that is pointed out between the two of them.
Coincidentally the cutscene where all this is said uses moving detailed stills with a limited colour pallete.

However Solid Snake has brown hair while Liquid Snake is blonde, and since this rather distinct difference isn't explicitly pointed out the headcanon is that Solid Snake might be naturally blonde too and is dying his hair.

I can certainly see him being blonde in this picture. Here is the cutscene if you want to look yourself.

https://youtu.be/OsHph98EmyE

Headcanons, I thought, were fans filling in those empty spaces with their own details as to why the character is the way he is in canon.

Drongo's example I quoted just now I would classify as simple fanfiction since there is simply no canon material to suggest the rivals would date.
Headcanons should be mainly about a character's past and have enough plausible evidence to make some sort of sense.

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

Small get-together at the pub with a few friends. We're sharing stupid parody shit we find on youtube. I rec a stupendium song to someone, and out of the blue the guy across the table says - word for word - "Stupendium is non-binary now and this is how YOU find out haha". He even said "haha" with this smug sideways grin they always get when they're being disingenuous cunts. He got very offended when I asked why the fuck I needed to know this fact. So now my silly game parody songs are mildly ruined, but also my opinion of that particular person is right down in the gutter and any future pub nights are going to be awkward for a while. Fucking idiot.

Should've just glassed him.

 

[Spangled Drongo]

Headcanons, I thought, were fans filling in those empty spaces with their own details as to why the character is the way he is in canon.

Drongo's example I quoted just now I would classify as simple fanfiction since there is simply no canon material to suggest the rivals would date.
Headcanons should be mainly about a character's past and have enough plausible evidence to make some sort of sense.

Yeah, to be fair if you're only saying two characters are dating it would be better classed as shipping in fandom jargon, but shipping often goes hand in hand with sexuality headcanons. To use Harry Potter as an example - say someone wanted to write a story about Draco with a female love interest or simply liked the idea of him ending up with a girl, there'd be a certain section of the fandom saying "how dare you, Draco is gay and secretly likes Harry" and in that case the gay part would be the headcanon but as for who specifically the gay love interest is, that's when it gets to shipping territory (completely ignoring the fact that the characters in question are teenagers which is a whole other kettle of fish, but a lot of the most obnoxious fans also are, or are university/college kids).

Long story short: fujoshis, it's always the fujoshis, but now it's no longer socially acceptable to simply be a woman who likes the idea of two men kissing it has to be dressed up in woke terminology. Though I think even before Tumblr and the introduction of identity politics to fandom, the fangirls were calling anyone who didn't like their gay ships or just thought it was a bit weird homophobic.