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Joe probably makes Mallory use that photo on her phone lock screen
Grace Lavery / Joseph Lavery & Daniel M. Lavery / Mallory Ortberg - "Straight with extra steps" couple trooning out to avoid "dwindling into mere heterosexuality"
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Autistic Nonetheless
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To trace the evolution of Joe's self expression he moved from a more traditional feminist, to a 'i am 100% woman' transgender, to now borderline identifying as a tranny.
to uno reverse some the pop psychology Joe likes so much i suspect this is mainly to do with him not being able to pass. Like at all.
There was a time where he used filters and even shaved more then once a week but the results were obviously awful, and had to have been embarrassing even for him. Half this thread is just people shitting on how terrible he looks, and so he now views all gender (and even sex) distinctions as fascist. (not that socialism has any better claim to being gender agnostic but whatever, fascist is just synonym for bad)
to uno reverse some the pop psychology Joe likes so much i suspect this is mainly to do with him not being able to pass. Like at all.
There was a time where he used filters and even shaved more then once a week but the results were obviously awful, and had to have been embarrassing even for him. Half this thread is just people shitting on how terrible he looks, and so he now views all gender (and even sex) distinctions as fascist. (not that socialism has any better claim to being gender agnostic but whatever, fascist is just synonym for bad)
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What comes to mind was his middleaged goatish era, openly advertising for random sex partners when he was commuting between Berkeley and NYC and on a jaunt to England, slobbery, lascivious come-ons followed by sly-boots exultations.
Boasting of troonery seemed like a kinkster lure (rather than allure) and maybe an excuse for a pallid, flabby body that was not up to certain tasks. Come fuck Lily while I lounge beside you in my Westwood corset fapping me ol' floppy...
That followed what had been a slightly less Rocky Horror phase of oooo how trailblazing and chic am I, trooning around Berkeley and getting my students to clank into class wearing S&M gear to read me smutty poetry. Quote me everywhere as a witty expert on human sexuality and political oppression as you would not if I were just nipple-ring Joe walking the length off saggy-ass jeans....
He never seemed to think of himself as actually a woman, just an eternally fake attention whore trying to freshen up his act.
Boasting of troonery seemed like a kinkster lure (rather than allure) and maybe an excuse for a pallid, flabby body that was not up to certain tasks. Come fuck Lily while I lounge beside you in my Westwood corset fapping me ol' floppy...
That followed what had been a slightly less Rocky Horror phase of oooo how trailblazing and chic am I, trooning around Berkeley and getting my students to clank into class wearing S&M gear to read me smutty poetry. Quote me everywhere as a witty expert on human sexuality and political oppression as you would not if I were just nipple-ring Joe walking the length off saggy-ass jeans....
He never seemed to think of himself as actually a woman, just an eternally fake attention whore trying to freshen up his act.
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like menlo park private schools, the british midcentury woman's novel, and bay area occult history, yet again I have specialized knowledge about a joe/mallory topic, but this time I don't think anybody will argue with me about it
Nourishing Traditions is very much like Laurel's Kitchen in that it is more than a cookbook; it is a book that proselytizes about nutrition and lifestyle. However, unlike Laurel's Kitchen, the recipes are famously horrible. The recipes in Laurel's Kitchen are just basic. The recipes in NT are inedible, they are so so bad, the author does not have any kind of normal relationship with food.
I honestly did not think anybody did not know this. I don't know why anyone would even buy NT in year of our Lord 2025, all the information in it is easily available elsewhere, the basic anti-low-fat anti-anti-animal-protein message is pretty mainstreamed at this point, and there are much, much better books on lactofermentation.
There is so much going on here, that Mallory is using that book, that serious food sites are apparently publishing her, this is all so insane and weird.
it actually kind of goes along with the polycule though. Whoever is publishing her at Boomer Food Magazine is as stuck in the past about polyamory as they are about Sally Fallon. Maybe the next step is she gets a book deal with Loving More and goes on tour with Starship.
no no with *Julia Cameron*
Nourishing Traditions is very much like Laurel's Kitchen in that it is more than a cookbook; it is a book that proselytizes about nutrition and lifestyle. However, unlike Laurel's Kitchen, the recipes are famously horrible. The recipes in Laurel's Kitchen are just basic. The recipes in NT are inedible, they are so so bad, the author does not have any kind of normal relationship with food.
I honestly did not think anybody did not know this. I don't know why anyone would even buy NT in year of our Lord 2025, all the information in it is easily available elsewhere, the basic anti-low-fat anti-anti-animal-protein message is pretty mainstreamed at this point, and there are much, much better books on lactofermentation.
There is so much going on here, that Mallory is using that book, that serious food sites are apparently publishing her, this is all so insane and weird.
it actually kind of goes along with the polycule though. Whoever is publishing her at Boomer Food Magazine is as stuck in the past about polyamory as they are about Sally Fallon. Maybe the next step is she gets a book deal with Loving More and goes on tour with Starship.
no no with *Julia Cameron*
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Not really. Sounds like good old fashioned "cultivated relationships" to me. [checkerboard wipe to...Joe sticking his fingers in Rocco's mouth.]
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Our favourite bluestocking managed six months of silence on Twitter, but has been baited out of retirement and into a nice bit of retconning, featuring Joe’s very special definitions of common words
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From the responses:
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Briefly redownloading because this clown brought a swarm of equally moronic squibs onto my instagram account, who have somehow implies that my picture about my baby’s birthday are predatory. Fuck you for that. These are terrifying times and you are not helping.
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For the record: 1) “gay” in this context means “not interested in compulsory heterosexuality”; EVERY child is gay in that sense, thank god; 2) I am a professor of English; I have affiliations, not cross-appointments, with critical theory and gender/sexuality/women’s studies;
3) I’ve argued at length that both gender identity and sexual orientation are made up. Book on topic under review, hopefully in print next year; 4) Raising children with three active parents is excellent, for obvious reasons. I was raised by a hardworking single mum.
5) a more consistent writer would refer to me as a “cross-dresser” both times, or “transgender” both times. I call myself “transsexual,” generally—if I ever have to. But the fact is that I know myself better than you know me, and I could not give a hoot what you think about me.
deleting app again. if you see these ridiculous people around, please find me on instagram, or email me at work—as I say, these are dangerous times and I appreciate the vigilance of the person who sent me this. xo
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For the record: 1) “gay” in this context means “not interested in compulsory heterosexuality”; EVERY child is gay in that sense, thank god; 2) I am a professor of English; I have affiliations, not cross-appointments, with critical theory and gender/sexuality/women’s studies;
3) I’ve argued at length that both gender identity and sexual orientation are made up. Book on topic under review, hopefully in print next year; 4) Raising children with three active parents is excellent, for obvious reasons. I was raised by a hardworking single mum.
5) a more consistent writer would refer to me as a “cross-dresser” both times, or “transgender” both times. I call myself “transsexual,” generally—if I ever have to. But the fact is that I know myself better than you know me, and I could not give a hoot what you think about me.
deleting app again. if you see these ridiculous people around, please find me on instagram, or email me at work—as I say, these are dangerous times and I appreciate the vigilance of the person who sent me this. xo
From the responses:
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Joe reaches into his bullshit bag and pulls out his fencing foil to defend himself from such an egregious attack.
Comment osez-vous! En garde!
1) That word means whatever I want it to, you ignorant peon. (AKA: Educate yourself!)
2) I am an uncommon elite academic and sooo much smarter than you.
3) I am the iconoclastic revolutionary that goes beyond even the newest progressive Newspeak! Other academic elites like my big thoughts and have promised to publish them, BTW. Coming soon!
4) Self serving Luxury Belief recitation plus coy oppression Olympics personal anecdote.
5) Snarky authoritative writing critique and self esteem affirmation/incantation.
Parry. Riposte. Touché! And because I'm so vulnerable, so persecuted, and so above and beyond all this tiresome idiocy, (and terrified!) I'm leaving Twitter. Again. ("RETREAT!!")
Pussy.
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This isn't even true though. Little kids have play weddings and make families out of their bears, dolls, and action figures. They play house and pretend to be mom, dad, and the baby. They talk about how they are going to marry the cute little girl across the street who they like to ride scooters with, one day. Very commonplace if you are raising normal kids and not some kind of frankenstein experiment "gayby."
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Trés thrilling to be persecuted once again. Must complain more widely and be embraced. Will overlook Elon's crimes and wield his attentention-getting device to my benefit. En loquacious garde, you inferior intellects.
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So i was right. Gender and sex are both spooks, and he does basically think of himself as a 'tranny'. I should put laverologist on my cv.
Seeing that i've followed joe through his many vicissitudes i think im also 100% right about him turning to this extreme as a result of his own failure to transition.
Not that he is sorry to have remained recognizably male. Just that he needs to reframe said failure in intellectual terms as a transitioning success.
Anywho gay = good , not gay = bad. Got it. I love Joe's habit of redefining every word in the dictionary.
'Noooo child, when i described myself as a pedophile i meant my own unique and entirely separate definition of pedophile. Read my many unreleased books before you judge me peon'
Now, and so there is no confusion. Joe. You are a massive and hideous faggot[¹]
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Seeing that i've followed joe through his many vicissitudes i think im also 100% right about him turning to this extreme as a result of his own failure to transition.
Not that he is sorry to have remained recognizably male. Just that he needs to reframe said failure in intellectual terms as a transitioning success.
Anywho gay = good , not gay = bad. Got it. I love Joe's habit of redefining every word in the dictionary.
'Noooo child, when i described myself as a pedophile i meant my own unique and entirely separate definition of pedophile. Read my many unreleased books before you judge me peon'
Now, and so there is no confusion. Joe. You are a massive and hideous faggot[¹]
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The problem is that words are useless without some shared understanding of their meaning. As an English professor, he should know that. Redefining words doesn't make him clever. It means that there's no point in engaging with him. He doesn't want to communicate, or to participate in good-faith discussion--he just wants attention (from women).
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It's going to be interesting to see what kind of publisher risks producing Joe's crit/porn cookbook. University press or mainstream? Or a small independent? The tranny trend is losing steam and we can only imagine where his ruminations on his favorite topics will go.
A time honored tradition with his ilk. Does it keep him up at night, how banal and undignified that is? Tsk, tsk.
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if he lets mallory co-author he could get posted by any oldschool boomer food press. Taunton would 100% put out a sperm and bondage cookbook and woodworking book, if he let mallory co-author.
but he never will
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Even if he did agree to share the authorship limelight (X to doubt for many reasons, personal and professional) I doubt Mal would. Our humble trans man knows and values her audience. Well, presumably she does to the degree that she wouldn't alienate them by co authoring a pornographic/critical theory cook book. That's a big lane jump that would require a contempt and arrogance she doesn't seem to have or would ever allow to show if she did. Mal would rather ramble on about mundane human joys and sorrows (fictional or otherwise), not deconstruct cocks and raspberry coulis in a deliberately obnoxious way. She also doesn't covet a gold academic intelligentsia membership card the way the Marquis de Sideshow does.
Mal really wants to be the pooner Garrison Keillor who normalizes trans existence and throupledom while writing about her humble life. And/or the moderately successful author of imaginative and touching stories about fictional characters when she doesn't. Joe wants to work (and reveal!) his superior Otherness via shock and awe. For notoriety. That throne has only one cushion.
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She probably craves love and attention from Joe enough to be flattered and love-bombed into helping him with almost anything. 10/10 Joe could talk her into co-authoring a cookbook if he felt it would be beneficial to the Joe brand and ego.
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I'm remembering that bookstore talk she gave with Joe sitting beside her.
I would guess he's trying to engineer ways of hinting to the Bon Appetit folx and her other cookery contacts that he is thepower epicure behind her throne kitchen stool and ev.er.y publisher will want to throw up down for his foodie memoir with a handful of recipes they'd better not test.
I would guess he's trying to engineer ways of hinting to the Bon Appetit folx and her other cookery contacts that he is the
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Joe and Lily have taken off with the baby (temporarily), leaving Mal behind. They attempt to console her.
From Mal's Insta.
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But don't worry, Joe's mum is also here for Mal!
Meanwhile, Joe's getting the attention he craved on his return to Twitter.
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From Mal's Insta.
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lily and grace are in New York for a few days with the baby for work
last night as Lily was packing (she called it "staging her luggage") she stopped in front of the bed and said in the most conversational tone imaginable, "Danny, if our plane goes down, you'll be all alone in the world. Except for your friends"
the plane landed safely btw
let me stress how neutral her tone was. she was not warning me, nor even particularly worried. just working through a math problem (i love her)
last night as Lily was packing (she called it "staging her luggage") she stopped in front of the bed and said in the most conversational tone imaginable, "Danny, if our plane goes down, you'll be all alone in the world. Except for your friends"
the plane landed safely btw
let me stress how neutral her tone was. she was not warning me, nor even particularly worried. just working through a math problem (i love her)
lolz4lilz: Just to be clear, you have a sufficient number of excellent number of friends! You'd be ok, but I think you'd miss us and especially Rocco
daniel_m_lavery: @lolz4lilz I think you should keep clarifying this statement and add more details
daniel_m_lavery: @lolz4lilz I think you should keep clarifying this statement and add more details
lolz4lilz: @daniel_m_lavery I was talking about this with @@grace.lavery.pangolin who claims that it hadn't even occurred to her that we might crash and die, and even more improbably that she controls her ability to filter out thoughts like this through therapy (as though one could!)
But don't worry, Joe's mum is also here for Mal!
lavery.jane2018: And me please, Danny
daniel_m_lavery: @lavery.jane2018 thank you Jane!!
daniel_m_lavery: @lavery.jane2018 thank you Jane!!
Meanwhile, Joe's getting the attention he craved on his return to Twitter.
Some replies
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My initial reaction was "Ugggh, fuck the people who do this on Twitter, they are giving Joe exactly what he wants." But looking a little closer at all those reactions, they're so formulaic. Look at the very first account:
This is not a real person. All of the tweets have an identical formula. Look at the next two accounts:
Identical formula. Follower numbers in the low hundreds. These are bots replying to Joe. Almost all of the "flurry of hate" that Joe received on his b8 post was generated by AI and posted by fake "anti-libtard" accounts.
Joe is a lolcow, but this is just a wave of AI-generated poison from people who don't even exist. It is creepy as hell.