US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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To be fair they also tend to be pretty concerned about the age of consent too.
Yep, towards their end they pushed that and trannies too. The entire libertarian policy was social anarchy. The economic parts didn't matter enough, that's why I always called them Liberaltarians because they're fake as shit.
 
I found the basic ideals of libertarianism--fiscal conservatism combined with social liberalism--very interesting. It aligned with ny own ideals of not wasting public moneys and generally leaving people alone about their personal life. Once I looked into libertarian thought a little more deeply I realized it was trash though.
Libertarianism is ideal for a society of virtuous, hardworking people, but it's not clear that such a society exists, or that if it existed it would survive as such in a Libertarian system.

On the other hand, virtually any system of government would work well enough in a society of virtuous, hardworking people, so long as it didn't get in the way too much.
 
One complaint about trump I have is that he isn’t pushing nuclear power enough, it can’t be understated just how much of game changer having nuclear power for your country ensures it will prosperous.
Based on what he's said in interviews, it seems Trump doesn't really care about nuclear. I think his position is he knows what is proven to work (fossil fuels) and wants to re-build a solid foundation for energy sufficiency on that.
It's a reasonable position of pure pragmatism, but nuclear energy seems to be something that won't find a way into an administration's policies until 2028. I think Vance might be ambitious enough to want to actually try for it, though.
 
Libertarianism is ideal for a society of virtuous, hardworking people, but it's not clear that such a society exists, or that if it existed it would survive as such under Libertarianism.

On the other hand, virtually any system of government would work well enough in a society of virtuous, hardworking people, so long as it didn't get in the way too much.
It's horseshoe theory incarnate. Libertarian with no gov and stateless vs commie no gov and stateless. Idiots are all both are in the end. Libertarians were worse though when it came to it in the end, they all figured just more people on weed and drugs the better. That was their entire thing for a long time. Fuck libertarians for wrecking a lot of right thought for a long time.
 
What is your opinion on these migrants being deported to the El Salvador prison despite having no criminal record?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-r...t-to-salvadoran-prison-60-minutes-transcript/

I know users here are right leaning and don't believe they should be here in the first place but from an optics perspective this isn't great for Trump and anti immigrant politics in the US if leftists are able to effectively weaponize it. Deporting them is one thing (I'm not sure on the mechanics of it but surely it can be done without sending them to El Salvador) but sending them to the prison in El Salvador on accusations of being gang members is something that can be easily exploited and is immoral.
It all depends on the "having no criminal record," part.

For migrants that have entered the country legally and have no criminal record during their time here,most people would likely say they shouldn't be compelled to leave the country or be deported. If this is just a fancy way to say, "They entered illegally but OMG, they've done nothing wrong," it's going to be more of a challenge because most normies believe they should have came here legally in the first place if they were that serious about wanting to come and stay here.

nyt crying that illegals are self deporting
I think this is the result of President Trump making good on his promise to deal with the border issues better this time around. Those here illegally have seen that promise was serious and some find it serious enough to want to leave voluntarily if it means not being detained indefinitely before being shipped back home.

Didn't really look like a shelf layout for eggs in the first place to me, so maybe they're just showing a random stock photo of some random mostly-empty store shelves with a smattering of milk and other dairy products?
Pictures like this are easy to use for masking the truth. Those shelves could be empty for any reason other than a shortage. It reminds me of the e-beggars who empty their fridge and take a picture of it completely empty when they beg for grocery money before putting their food back inside.

Let's not forget about the GROSS intellectual property theft either. A lot of the items that China uses to claim "Most Advanced Nation in the World!" status are made with stolen intellectual property, and made worse than the original due to shortcuts and shoddy workmanship.
When I took a college course that included discussion on social and ethical issues in computing, the topic of IP theft was a discussion point. Apparently, Asian nations believe in imitation being the sincerest form of flattery which is why they see no issue with copying what they think is popular or successful. As such, they view copyrights as an invented, artificial restraint on that idea and they ignore them believing that the companies should be glad their country finds their products good enough to be worthy of copying/counterfeiting.

Of course it's a double edged sword when those knockoffs are made in factories where quantity is stressed over quality and the end product sucks far worse than the original.

it's so over bros.
Just distract the penguins with donuts 🍩 🐧 .

Thats identity theft, which is not what I am talking about. I’m talking about the people who are here illegally that are motivated to file taxes to bolster their applications before the government. An alien who steals an SS card cannot submit the tax filing as evidence in their case because the filing would not be under their name.
As a bit of a side tangent, foreign nationals who want to be in the US legally and pay their taxes can apply for what I believe is called in ITIN number which is akin to a US citizen's SSN and allows the foreign person to file and pay their taxes properly. Also, for those seeking US citizenship, they have to show proof that they have paid all of their taxes for what I believe is up to a four year look-back period; having an ITIN makes this part of the process easier to do.
 
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Yep, towards their end they pushed that and trannies too. The entire libertarian policy was social anarchy. The economic parts didn't matter enough, that's why I always called them Liberaltarians because they're fake as shit.
Libertarianism is fucking dead. The highest vote they ever got was in 2016 and every election since they lose votes. It doesn't motivate people anymore. The fact is centralization is the way of the future. Much how feudalism gave way Yeoman Agrarianism which gave way to industrial capitalism. In the modern day the sacred cows of capitalism just aren't true anymore. The economy is more complicated both people and companies want no need more givens to be able to have faith in the system.
 
All they cared about was weed. The rest was window dressing. Always hated the capital L of the P party.
I liked what the Mises Caucus was offering, a much more socially conservative populist version of libertarianism in the mold of late-stage Rothbard and Hoppe, but then Dave Smith had to drop out because his son was having severe heart issues, and some retarded ex-academic named Michael Rectenwald took his place and that's how the liberal trans kids pedofaggot Chase Oliver ended up winning the nomination. I'm hoping the MC wins at the next convention, but I doubt it at this point. The hardcore big Ls are desperate to go back to circlejerking.

At least we got Trump to free Ross.
 
Libertarianism is fucking dead. The highest vote they ever got was in 2016 and every election since they lose votes. It doesn't motivate people anymore. The fact is centralization is the way of the future. Much how feudalism gave way Yeoman Agrarianism which gave way to industrial capitalism. In the modern day the sacred cows of capitalism just aren't true anymore. The economy is more complicated both people and companies want no need more givens to be able to have faith in the system.
It's dead, but there are vestiges of it that are ok, like using tariffs to use in economics. Now they'd say fuck Trump on that cause he's um, orange man and not them in power. I hate libertarians since I was a kid and my dad shouted one off campaigning at an election I went to. Awful idiots.
 
They'll pass down their homes and wealth, but nobody will be able to buy because the average millennial at fucking 40 has a lifetime retirement fund of under 30-40k without inheritance.
No they won't. Revere mortgages + state ran nursing homes. The former means they sold their house already and the ids get shit. The latter means they signed their assets over to the state upon death and the kids get shit.

X/Millenials/etc are going to get absolutely nothing. All that wealth is going to go to hedge funds and the state.
 
Lolbertarians are fucking retarded. One of the funniest forums you can read is the politics boards of ECCIE, the prostitute forum. It's absolutely rife with lolberts and their delusional takes and every once and a while you get to see a whore berate their clients for their shit political opinions.
you can criticize every lolbert but massie, as soon as you touch that agenda disrupting fuck the worst people start crying
 
No they won't. Revere mortgages + state ran nursing homes. The former means they sold their house already and the ids get shit. The latter means they signed their assets over to the state upon death and the kids get shit.

X/Millenials/etc are going to get absolutely nothing. All that wealth is going to go to hedge funds and the state.

This x 1,000. People seriously underestimate how hedonistic boomers are, even when they're bitching and moaning about how parasitic, entitled, and downright retarded boomers are. This is the same generation that shoved their parents (Gen X/Millennial/early zoomers' grandparents) into shitty nursing homes and left them to rot while they pocketed the inheritance. You really don't think they'd have the foresight to spend their "golden years" doing some lazy, scumfuck hedonistic shit at some retirement community or reverse mortgage it for extra cash? They're the ones who are actively complaining about elder abuse despite setting a precedent for it in the first goddamn place.
 
No they won't. Revere mortgages + state ran nursing homes. The former means they sold their house already and the ids get shit. The latter means they signed their assets over to the state upon death and the kids get shit.

X/Millenials/etc are going to get absolutely nothing. All that wealth is going to go to hedge funds and the state.

And Boomers wonder why their kids and grandkids hate them so much.

Wait until the kids find out that the Boomer father bought a boat for his secretary girlfriend that isn’t in the will and the Boomer mother donated her priceless antiques to the Boys and Girls Club.
 
If the shitty Appleslop needed to be made in a third world country and I was in charge of Apple I'd choose Botswana. One of the few third world countries that not an absolute shithole and whose people seem to genuinely want to improve their country and not be vassals of some commie or hyperglobalist force.
That'd be nice, but they're very landlocked and the transport through the surrounding countries is... less than ideal, when your best bet is going to be trucking all the way through SA, because at least Cape Town is a major port, something that Namibia and Mozambique appear to be lacking.
 
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