US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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I think the difference between some people and doomers is that we understand tariffs are risky, but we see that the potential good in the long run outway the risks associated with them, they on the other hand don't see a single positive in tariffs and just believe it's only risk. Manufacturing needs to come back, and i'd rather take a risk now that could backfire than to just slowly die like we were for decades.
I don't try to be mean to doomers but if you not gonna have at least a shred of hope that things can get better why even continue to live?
 
I think the difference between some people and doomers is that we understand tariffs are risky, but we see that the potential good in the long run outway the risks associated with them, they on the other hand don't see a single positive in tariffs and just believe it's only risk. Manufacturing needs to come back, and i'd rather take a risk now that could backfire than to just slowly die like we were for decades.
NPC's being NPC's, they can't tell when a market is shifting to take advantage of new international conditions, they just run the preloaded scripting.
 
Always amusing to see these people act like they're American Nobility, owed a seat at the table. They have a lower approval rating than chlamydia. Didn't Trump bypass this by just realizing he doesn't have to LET the white house press pool decide it's own membership, he can take that away from them and bypass them having a fit that he banned the AP from their list?
 
Like his account I sent [sic] even 2 weeks old and he only ever posts on this thread. Makes me wonder if he is actually a bot.
Check the year again, numbnuts.
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Edit: Apparently my insult was in error. I still don't take it back.
 
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I don't try to be mean to doomers but if you not gonna have at least a shred of hope that things can get better why even continue to live?
I'm a doomer sometimes. It's a mentality of "if I keep my expectations at rock bottom, I can never be disappointed".
 
We literally closed above where we were before that false news story about tariff delays happened. You're also just proving my point
Fyi the reason that's important is the market was rising before that story came out, and said story fucked the market up and had to overcorrect all day.
I despise journalists so fucking much, dude.
 
Stock market crashes don't mean line go straight down. Take the 1929 crash for example:

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See all those peaks and valleys for months/years while the overall trend is down? That's what catching a falling knife looks like.
So I'm assuming we're treating the stock market as some kind of "happiness meter" for the average citizen now? Sure, let's go with that premise.
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Looks like we're still about 4 times as high as we were in the year 2005. Granted the population has increased a good bit since then and there's inflation... so let's say the same number needed to provide that level of happiness for all of our citizens is now around a 15,000. So our happiness meter last month was still a solid 300% higher than it was in 2005!

But am I happier now than I was in 2005? Are any of my friends happier? Is walking around the city more fun? Is my job more enjoyable, are my prospects of owning a home better? Have wages increased? I've actually improved my own life a lot in that time but that was all due to my personal motivation and not related to the stock market at all.... the world i live in is not 400% better, at fucking all.

It seems like the only "happiness" I get out of the happiness meter increasing 400% since 2005 has been that smart phones and wal mart items are cheaper. Wonderful. All of that 400% worth of growth comes back to the average citizen in the form of a nice affordable little square we can use to read retarded nonsense on the internet from other retarded people and indians who spew garbage all over youtube and instagram. Our children can use that affordable little square to consume brainrotting content that goads them into buying non existant digital crap. We can be taking a shit and be connected with the world and see the conversations of indians, blacks, and hispanics arguing over who has a right to white people's societies. How are we going to live without that little square?!?!

I realize my logic is stupid here, but so is the idea that we should care about that fucking line to such an absurd degree. I want some economist to really lay it all out on the table. What are we giving up here vs what are we gaining by making sure the line goes up and only up? If that line going up means I am going to be living in a world where I pay rent to live in a property owned by a foreigner who hates me, live off welfare paid for by a foreigner who hates me, eat food from a farmland owned by the same, I don't know my neighbors, they don't speak english, they don't go to my local church, they don't respect any societal norms, my parents are in a retirement home being taken care of by people who hate them and don't speak english, there's trash in the parks, graffiti on every wall, going outside after 10pm is suicidal and every person I know is waiting to die. **BUT** I get to have a little square in my pocket that does everything it can to make me miserable and retarded (and can take pictures)?

It isn't fucking worth it.
 
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So I'm assuming we're treating the stock market as some kind of "happiness meter" for the average citizen now? Sure, let's go with that premise.
How did you conclude that from my post? I was simply showing that we will see many green days in a crash and that doesn't mean it's over. The line doesn't just go straight down to zero. How is your brain so broken that you read words that aren't there and then write a novella in response?
 
I think the difference between some people and doomers is that we understand tariffs are risky, but we see that the potential good in the long run outway the risks associated with them, they on the other hand don't see a single positive in tariffs and just believe it's only risk.
You've almost got it right, but an additional thing to note is that doomers are the undisputed kings of letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. They have this nebulous definition of some perfect policy plan they want to attain and shit their pants and do everything they can to get in the way of people trying to enact real change, just because they don't get THEIR way. Fuentes is an excellent example of this. Fundamentally unserious people who would be raped to death by Muslims in a real country.
 
Always amusing to see these people act like they're American Nobility, owed a seat at the table. They have a lower approval rating than chlamydia. Didn't Trump bypass this by just realizing he doesn't have to LET the white house press pool decide it's own membership, he can take that away from them and bypass them having a fit that he banned the AP from their list?

Neither the president nor his cabinet are even legally obligated to speak to the press. If they want to play hard ball with Trump he could just completely dismiss the press pool and tell them all to kiss his ass
 
I want some economist to really lay it all out on the table.
We live under a school of economics that argues if the line went up 400% but you are 100% of what you were before, that's perfectly fine because activity continued. The effective inflation is not an accident in their view, it's how the system is supposed to work. The funny money flows to keep the system lubricated and spinning in their view. They believe in avoiding deflation at all costs because deflation ends certain economic activity.
 
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