US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Trump declaring TOTAL RETARD WAR wasn’t on my bingo card, but in hindsight maybe it probably should have :story:
Him making an example of China was the free space on the bingo card. He has nothing to lose by doing so. They've already tried cutting us off of pharma and whatnot. It occurs to him that they are reliant on us for food and can get fucked.
 
This is just a theory, but what Trump is doing is executing the Yarvin playbook.

Trump 45 was too retarded in thinking that he can bring back the 80s economy:

- Boomers are too selfish to even give back to an economy they raped for their own selfish desires. This weekends protest proved they all want to go back to Summer of 69 when they had no kids and complain about “The Man.”
- Gen Xers are too busy trying to get their kids to love the slop they loved when they were growing up. They are still crying over Cobain blowing his brains out.
- Millenials, the greatest Boomer casualty, are too brainwashed by public education, universities, capeshit and Harry Potter that they unironically use V for Vendetta quotes as political discourse.
- Gen Z hates all of the groups above and wants to burn everything to the ground.

It took Biden’s retarded presidency to help people realize centrist Democratic policies are a disguise for the Obama-Clinton monolith to get what they want. Trump also realized his allies can’t be gay Nick Fuentes, “I’m just asking questions” Candace Owens, the Beanie, Crowder’s gay ass, my Pillow dude, and the Daily Wire.

The Obama-Clinton monolith because of their pettiness handed Trump his best allies: Tulsi, RFK Jr., Peter Thiel, Vance, and the most important ones, Joe Rogan and Elon Musk.

Thiel and Vance are both Yarvinists, so it’s no secret that Trump finally learned that to create a new America, he needs to destroy the old government and build a new one. Just like Hamilton, Lincoln, and FDR which is directly from Yarvin’s writings.

Whether you think Trump actually wants to save America, the West, or that he wants to be a tyrannical dictator doesn’t matter. He’s going to do it.
 
Amazon, Microsoft, Google are all up today. Retailer stocks like Walmart and Target are stable and going up. Where is this big crash?
Where is the earth shattering kaboom? I was promised an earth shattering kaboom.
Him making an example of China was the free space on the bingo card. He has nothing to lose by doing so. They've already tried cutting us off of pharma and whatnot. It occurs to him that they are reliant on us for food and can get fucked.
If you’re pro manufacturing they’re the main problem tbh.
 
Trump declaring TOTAL RETARD WAR wasn’t on my bingo card, but in hindsight maybe it probably should have :story:
S&P is crashing full velocity down. :trump::gold:
SHHHH just witness the retards Olympics.
Lmfao boomers that gamed the system are on suicide watch.

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Britain has unironically hit the point that they're going to have to have a civil war to get out from under this. They are blatantly being ethnically cleansed as punishment for Brexit. And they'd better do it soon, because they're importing as many fighting age Muslim leeches as they can, 24x7, so when the time comes they can just genocide the ethnic English outright.
Honestly I get the “We’re full” argument, but I’d be ok with the RW Brit’s setting up shop somewhere in the US, because shit is so dire there I’m not sure how they can come out on top even if they legitimately try. They have no fucking weapons.
 
So all we have to do is capture the rest of the world to then extend the reach of tariffs. Great idea
I'd like to be serious for a moment. The United States will never have the capacity to do what China does without the population of poors that China's got. You need hundreds of millions desperate and willing to take on just about any kind of work, while Americans actually expect to be treated and paid well.
 
Him making an example of China was the free space on the bingo card. He has nothing to lose by doing so. They've already tried cutting us off of pharma and whatnot. It occurs to him that they are reliant on us for food and can get fucked.
Exactly, it is like a fight on the playground, it's about beating that kids ass that laughed about your dog dying. But it's also to send a message to every other little bitch that wants to mock your sadness, you beat the brakes off that little shit and you might never have to fight again. The mere threat you will unleash hell on your enemies backs off most of the kids that don't want to take that chance.


China is finding out the dildo of consequences rarely arrives unlubed, and the US has A BIG RUBBER DICK.
 
The insistence that any trade deficit is bad is not a good direction to take. I can see where he may be using that as a negotiating tactic but it speaks of unsound judgment to conflate it with the other countries' tariffs.
When the USA was funded by tariffs, we also had trade deficits. It is not a fundamentally bad thing to have them.

The tariffs will only be successful if he and congress can actually abolish or seriously curtail the income tax. AND manufacturing moves more to the US. No matter the outcome, it will increase prices, but I hope it does stabilize the US in the way he claims and increases opportunities for actual citizens.

In a vacuum, you're correct. The big problem here is that the USA, for decades, was (and still is) the world's largest consumer market by a disproportionate amount. The neoliberal world order is fundamentally built around the USA running up massive deficits, and debts by extension, to the point where there's this absolutely awful notion that the USA can just print more money forever and run up trillions of dollars in debt without issue (on a personal, municipal, state, and federal level no less). The US dollar is the world's reserve currency, tons of nations want US dollars for international trade, and the Americans are pigs who'll consume any slop that China, Vietnam, India, Cambodia, and so on exports to us because we love cheap product. It's a fundamentally unsustainable world order, and it's one that's actively predatory toward Americans. Is having cheap product worth a dollar with less and less purchasing power domestically, wages stagnating for decades on end, and predatory business practices designed to foster impulsive behaviour and keep the American consumer in debt and in poor health?

In a perfect world, we should ideally run a trade deficit on stuff that the USA cannot bootstrap domestically. Semiconductors are an excellent example. Sure, we can make the actual chips here in the USA once all the materials and machinery are procured, but the semiconductor supply chain is heavily globalised. ASML in the Netherlands is the company that designs and manufactures the lithography machines we use to make the damn computer chips in the first place. Even if we import all those machines, they still require upkeep and ASML makes the repair parts. We can manufacture the repair parts domestically, in theory, but those repair parts still require raw material to manufacture in the first place. The USA has tons of rare earth deposits, but that's not the only type of raw material we need We could bootstrap resource extraction here, but it would still take a long time to develop the scale necessary for extraction and refinement. More than a single presidential term, and there's hardly any administrative continuity in America. It's just easier to accept that there's too much headache with respect to fully bootstrapping an isolated semiconductor industry here in the USA and bite that bullet to the extent that we should.

This doesn't apply to all industries, however. Why the fuck are we shelling out so much money for textiles produced in Vietnam and Bangladesh, when the Antebellum South in the USA was quite literally where most of the world's cotton came until fairly recently? Why are we letting India, China, and so on manufacture our pharmaceuticals, when pharmaceuticals are not that difficult to manufacture in the first place? We came within inches of having the Japanese owning US Steel, and while it can be argued that the Japanese are good manufacturing and retained the know-how that we've seemingly lost with time, it's still a bad idea to have something vital like our metallurgy prowess in the hands of a foreign power.

We should retain necessary deficits and keep them at the lowest possible threshold we need them at, but therein lies the problem: we have so much unnecessary bloat in our deficit to the point where we just need to chop away with an axe and work out what's necessary later. This isn't a situation of surgical precision; we're trapped in dense jungle canopy with parasitic vines everywhere and we need to actually hack our way through it to find what we really need.
 
The United States will never have the capacity to do so without the population of poors that China's got. You need hundreds of millions desperate and willing to take on just about any kind of work, while Americans actually expect to be treated and paid well.
Like I’ve said a lot in this thread, Elon importing poojeets is what I’m afraid the solution will be.
 
The United States will never have the capacity to do so without the population of poors that China's got. You need hundreds of millions desperate and willing to take on just about any kind of work, while Americans actually expect to be treated and paid well.
we have approximately 41 million Americans on food assistance program. We got the poor.
 
Honestly I get the “We’re full” argument, but I’d be ok with the RW Brit’s setting up shop somewhere in the US, because shit is so dire there I’m not sure how they can come out on top even if they legitimately try. They have no fucking weapons.
The only climate that would be recognizable to them would be Northern California coast through Oregon. If it snows, they’d die, and if it gets much above 80, they’ll also die
 
This is just a theory, but what Trump is doing is executing the Yarvin playbook.
i called this out months ago

I've been doing some reading and it seems like Trump is following Moldbug/Curtis Yarvins map of how to do things almost to the letter

Yarvin advocates RAGE (Retire All Government Employees), Trump implements DOGE
Yarvin advocates expanding the power of the executive, Trump is doing that

Yarvin was invited to the Inauguration Ball and Vance has cited him as an influence


i cannot wait to look in history books and see this

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beautiful, vaguely autistic face be cited as the inspiration for a new America

I suggest reading the Butterfly Revolution:

Birth of the butterfly regime​

Trump should not take any power until he can accept all the power. Once elected President, he should present the legislative, judicial and administrative states with a choice: either they acknowledge his manifest democratic mandate to Constitutional executive authority and allow him to serve as a Constitutional chief executive; or, he leaves the White House, and calls his people into the street. He will return only on their backs—to serve as a revolutionary chief executive. Does anyone want this?

The greater the credibility of this threat—and he may call demonstrations just to demonstrate it—the greater the probability that it will never have to happen. But Trump, on the day of his inauguration, must both declare a state of emergency, and display his full democratic power. It will be viscerally clear to everyone in the country that this is something different—the old regime is at an end and can never return. Call it a revolution if you like! Every revolution starts by convincing itself.

Naturally, if there is a bloc of Trump ninjas in the legislature, it is much easier to make the revolution as legal as possible. FDR’s tame rubberstamp Congress was a huge thing. Ideally, the regime’s legality is unquestionable. But what really matters is that this democratic revolution either happens, or does not happen—no in-betweens.

There is another possibility: Trump loses the Presidency, but the Trump machine wins a substantial bloc—even a majority—in the legislature.

This is no problem at all. Every regime on the American pattern can be governed by the prime-ministerial system—through its legislature. Since the executive branch is in fact the legislative branch, it can be taken over by capturing the legislature—creating an American equivalent of the British prime-ministerial system.

And often, the power of even a minority bloc is such that it can dictate the behavior of the rest of the party. Issues are not the concern of the bloc—power is. The goal of its winning legislative candidates is to capture authority—over first committees, then rules, then all of legislation. There is a possibility that this will be easier than it looks.

Once Trump controls the legislature from outside, at least according to today’s bizarre precedents, he is more lawfully in possession of executive power than if he is elected President—fact. Constitutional law is pretty cool.

Delegation​

Finally, once proper legal authorization exists, Trump takes over the executive branch and appoints a CEO. As we said at the beginning, he is not this CEO.

FDR was a lot like Trump in some ways. He was intensely charismatic, insanely witty, and had the attention span of a fly. But there was one difference—FDR was a scion of one of America’s great families.

As a born aristocrat, FDR was confident. That meant he could delegate. That meant that although he was anything but a manager, he could find competent people to manage for him, whom he wouldn’t micromanage.

A Trump who was confident enough to act as America’s chairman of the board, not America’s CEO—who could pick an amazing CEO, ready, willing and able to take unlimited executive authority over all federal, state and local agencies, corporations and institutions—could truly make America great again.

Or so I believe. But fortunately or not, this Trump just doesn’t exist. So it will have to stay an academic exercise…
 
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