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Should be a wild four years.

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Yes. Oklahomans need something to do other than gamble and drink.

A difficulty I'm beginning to encounter is how difficult it is to find some shit that is made in the USA. Stuff you don't even think about, like small parts for consumer electronics. All that is chink shit.
Hey man, Oklahomans have other stuff to do, like die in tornadoes, hit deer with their truck, proudly declare their .00003% Choctaw heritage with a license plate, and smoke weed that's better than any other states weed for some reason.
 
Manufactured protest 1. you know the one with all the brown people bearing the flags of the shithole nation they fled from? thoroughly convinced me that the right people are in charge now. The pictures from the second protest have convinced me of the same twice over. Everyone in those pictures look like spoiled little children being told no, and appealing to the highest authority in their shallow meaningless lives... the fucking paw patrol.
 
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So I know a federal worker who just got laid off.

He's receiving a severance pay-- basically, even though he isn't working now, he's still getting paid his salary for an additional 12 months. Dude basically got a year's worth of paid vacation, and all the time in the world to find another job.

I understand it sucks to be laid off, but these feds are acting like the biggest victims ever even though their "exits" involve something like a significant pay, a buyout, etc. Wish that people in the private sector had been shown the same courtesy during covid!

Just saying: If you are a federal worker who just got laid off and was perfectly fine with people's livelihoods being ruined in the name of Covid 5 years ago, then you are a piece of shit who is receiving your unpleasant dose of karma, and I have ZERO sympathy for you (and your karma isn't nearly as bad as what the private sector went through 5 years ago). Bye bitch!
 
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Isn't his Air Force One being worked on Boeing, who is notable for faulty aircraft??? Also, I still think the tweet I posted is true, I mean think about it...with stocks crashing, Elon might be on the run...If you think about it.
I have no idea what you're trying to imply here. Boeing makes up about half of US commercial aircraft and has numerous military contracts as well. There's definitely been some corners cuts and their reputation is deservedly in the shitter right now.

That said the number of eyes on something like Air Force One is ridiculous. The 3 phase generator that's towed up there while they turn on the APU for maintenance is washed before it's dragged out and connected to the plane purely for aesthetic reasons. The backup to the backup will be selected from the more aesthetically pleasing units in case it's in a picture and because important people might see them in a diplomatic context.

Some jackass maintenance workers cutting corners at an assembly plant and then the 3 other assholes who are supposed to check that the just checked a form or initialed a box instead of even looking has no bearing on something that probably has more eyes verifying it then entire fleets of random commercial vessels. Air Force One is hardened against nuclear EMP, it's not going to be missing any bolts on it's doors.
 
The Yuan has plunged 30% already. Guess nobody has confidence they can fight America in a trade war.

No one gives a shit about the CCP fiat paper even the Chinks

In China most transactions are done in USD and only official government stuff is done in Yuan Where you have to pay with Yuan otherwise ever Chink measures value by USD and won't accept Yuan unless they have too.
 
So I know a federal worker who just got laid off.

He's receiving a severance pay-- basically, even though he isn't working now, he's still getting paid his salary for an additional 12 months. Dude basically got a year's worth of paid vacation, and all the time in the world to find another job.

I understand it sucks to be laid off, but these feds are acting like the biggest victims ever even though their "exits" involve something like a significant pay, a buyout, etc. Wish that people in the private sector has been shown the same courtesy during covid!

Just saying: If you are a federal worker who just got laid off and was perfectly fine with people's livelihoods being ruined in the name of Covid 5 years ago, then you are a piece of shit who is receiving their unpleasant dose of karma, and I have ZERO sympathy for you (and their karma isn't nearly as bad as what the private sector went through 5 years ago). Bye bitch!
It sounds like this person was laid off illegally and OPM won't allow him to resume his regular work. From what I've read this is a policy decision and they could force him to actually do work at any point after reinstating him.

I'm basing it off this article. Idk what the reasoning is for putting these people on administrative leave, but it seems like a decision the administration is making.

Around 25,000 federal probationary workers across 18 agencies were fired under the Trump administration in the last month or so. Now, many of them are back, following a judge's order. But that doesn't mean they're pushing papers; instead, many have been placed directly on paid administrative leave, which OPM has said in a filing is the first step in reinstating workers' jobs.
 
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I dunno if this is real or not but the latrine mill is saying the SCOTUS will drop a ruling today or tomorrow (April 6 or 7) with a 5/4 judgment in favour of Trump vs the judges using TRO's.

Rumor is that Roberts cucked again but ABC did not.

Fingers crossed we see something soon.
 
I dunno if this is real or not but the latrine mill is saying the SCOTUS will drop a ruling today or tomorrow (April 6 or 7) with a 5/4 judgment in favour of Trump vs the judges using TRO's.

Rumor is that Roberts cucked again but ABC did not.

Fingers crossed we see something soon.
that would be great. idk if it will happen. I fully expect them to go 9-0 against trump. The courts will do anything to give themselves more power.

see Marbury Vs Madison.
In the wake of this most recent and awful decision by a unelected judge to halt federal action based on their own interpretation of the constitution. Ladies and gentlemen, I present one of the greatest kerfuffles in American poltiical history, the sad and twisted Seinfeld episode that is Marbury Vs Madison

Many of you may already know that in 1803 the supreme court established the principle of "judicial review" a power not given to them by the founding fathers or outlined anywhere in the constitution, that, and I quote, "Giving American courts the power to strike down laws and statues they find violate the Constitution of the United States." but most of you dont know exactly how petty and small the circumstances that lead to this landmark decisions so lets take a jounrey shall we?

Its the year 1801 the 2 political partys are the sitting president John Adams Federalists and the incoming president Thomas Jeffersons Democratic-Reublican party, they are bitter rivals and its march of that year 1801 with 2 days left in John Adams term

2 DAYS

he appoinst SEVERAL DOZEN federalist party supporters to cicrut judge and justice of the peace postions in an attempt to frustrate the Jeffersons new administration. The outgoing senate quickly confirmed it but the secretary of state, John Marshal was unable to deliver all the new judges commissions before Adams departure and Jefferson inauguration.

So think about the situation, the president has made these appointments, the senate confirmed them, the guy who has to admister their oath and officials appoint them wasent PHYSICALLY able to do all them before the next president is in place. So the new Secretary of state is obviously ordered by Jefferson to NOT deliver those commissions, as he is president know and that is his prerogative as much as it was the previous ones right TO order it.

One of those who was going to be given a judges commision was a Maryland Businessman by the name of William Marbury, he filed a lawsuit with the supreme court asking the court to issue a writ of "mandamus" forcing the secretary of state to deliver his commision

OK, quick break, all of what you have read so far is 100%, non editorialized FACT that 99% of all historians will tell you is know to be the case, this next part gets a little murky

the official story is the supreme court saw the action of the Jefferrson government as illegal beacuse it was "improper", im not super sure, the argument is so paper thin, beacuse the lionshare of the opinion surrounds how the court found this decision gives the court the ability to review and strike down ANY piece of legislature or policy for any branch of givernment UNLIATERIALY

The reality is they just saw this as a great vessel to expand the power of the supreme court beyond what anyone orignally intented

" Examining the law Congress had passed to define Supreme Court jurisdiction over types of cases like Marbury's—Section 13 of the Judiciary Act of 1789—the Court found that the Act had expanded the definition of the Supreme Court's jurisdiction beyond what was originally set forth in the U.S. Constitution. The Court then struck down Section 13 of the Act, announcing that American courts have the power to invalidate laws that they find to violate the Constitution—a power now known as judicial review." basic source

The real kicker?
"In Marbury's case, however, the Court did not order Madison to comply. Because striking down the law removed any jurisdiction the Court might have had over the case, the Court could not issue the writ that Marbury had requested."

The guy who was whining about all this in the first place never even got his judgeship cause doing so would undue the precident they are trying to set of the COURTS being the one to make such a decsion.

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These 2 assholes and the Supreme Court at the time are more responsible for our countrys democracy never haveing a long term chance than anyone
 
Idk why I can’t reply to the post about judicial review but it’s a common trend that the US government has come up with so many bullshit loopholes to get what it wants in order to avoid being restricted by the constitution. When I took a US gov class that shit was appalling to me tbh
 
To be completely honest I get a sinking feeling that trump really is conning everyone. I have no basis for why i feel like that, but it’s like, why would he hurt boomercons etc when he and his administration are literally the boomer cons who are the kind of people to tell gen z to “work harder”. I like the guy but I can’t shake the feeling
Watch this video from members of Trump's cabinet.
This isn't just Trump going off half-cocked doing whatever he wants. He has a whole team planning this shit out.
 
Hey man, Oklahomans have other stuff to do, like die in tornadoes, hit deer with their truck, proudly declare their .00003% Choctaw heritage with a license plate, and smoke weed that's better than any other states weed for some reason.
I've only spent a small amount of time in Oklahoma, but for some reason I find this both highly accurate and fucking hysterical.
 
The big thing Reagan did here was nationalize a shitload of illegals.
Keep in mind, this was part of an overall program that could have been good if George HW Bush hasn't come in and fucked it all up later. Part 1 of the original plan was, they were supposed to legalize some of the people who'd been here illegally for generations through amnesty. In Part 2, they were supposed to close all the loopholes that let the illegals get in, so the big corporations could keep their already existing wages slaves but couldn't import any new ones. Reagan got the first half done, but Bush Sr. said "LOL, fuck that, wage slaves for everyone" and shined on the second half, refusing to close the loopholes. Iirc Part 2 was supposed to include funding for building the wall, but it never happened. Slick Willie made an attempt in the 1990s using surplus military helicopter pads from Viet Nam, but it was super ineffective.

The same thing happened with the insane asylum reform. Geraldo Rivera got famous by filming an expose on asylums for the insane and retarded, and conditions there were absolutely ghastly, truly horrifying. Part 1 of the plan was closing these institutions. Part 2 was supposed to be opening more community-based outpatient clinics and halfway houses/assisted living places to take care of these people in the least invasive, most humane way possible. Reagan got the ball rolling in 1966 when he was Governor of California and it was one of his pet projects during his Presidency. Unfortunately George HW Bush fucked us AGAIN and all the funding for the halfway houses, assistant living, and outpatient clinics dried up, leaving us with herds of roaming feral lunatics with no supervision at all.
 
To be completely honest I get a sinking feeling that trump really is conning everyone. I have no basis for why i feel like that, but it’s like, why would he hurt boomercons etc when he and his administration are literally the boomer cons who are the kind of people to tell gen z to “work harder”. I like the guy but I can’t shake the feeling
The whole Trump brand exists to sell rich guy "experiences" to middle class chumps. Trump's legacy dies with the middle class.
 
In it, he says that he's not going to make any deals with other countries that don't lower our trade deficit with them.
That is retarded they can't make American consumers want less or make people want more American stuff. Trump talks about cars in a lot of countries in Asia and Europe they can not drive American cars if they wanted it because the roads are to small you expect them to remodel their entire fucking city.
 
iirc part of it is that we weren't really putting a half a million dollars into gay muppet comics of Uganda, it was probably five thousand or so and the remaining money went to bribing the local warlords, but "money for local warlords to buy children and drugs so they leave us alone" looks even worse than "gay muppet comic"

Honestly, I highly doubt any of that money went to any of the African nations it was allegedly going towards. Most of USAID was used so Democrats could launder their way into being rich, then complain about millionaires and billionaires who did it the old fashioned way.
 
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