JonTron Salt - feat. the growing Yooka-Laylee shitstorm (Mighty No. 9 2.0)

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Drama over at r/gamegrumps about JonTron's recent video. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Also Jon apparently was the reason Trump won or some shit

http://archive.is/TK4MG

Jon has such an inflated ego. He is hardly a celebrity and the fact he thinks other celebrities are "pulling him in" to talking about his politics is, frankly, bullshit.

"I've probably made things worse" seems about right to me.

Yeah no.

  • He's talked shit on the Womens Marches.
  • He was rude to Tim Schafer for daring to share a video by Anita Sarkeesian and accused Tim or sending a mob after him -- never mind the fact that Jon sent his own mob to Wikipedia when the article on him was up for deletion.
  • He was pro-GamerGate which has plenty of proof to back up the idea that it really, really was NOT about ethics in gaming journalism when conservatives like Adam Baldwin and Milo Yiannopoulos were part of the crusade and the numerous elements at work there.
  • He can't handle criticism at all and lashes out when someone does criticize him.
  • He decided to side with Piers Morgan who is another grade-A piece of shit.
  • Speaking of, he was prompted to side with Piers when Ewan McGregor opted out of going onto Piers' show after his comments on the Womens Marches. Piers made a jab at McGregor voicing his opiniom as an actor... so who the fuck does Jon think he is voicing HIS opinion if he agrees with Piers? Jon is a fan of free speech but then wants to imply McGregor is a hypocrite who preaches tolerance but doesn't practice it simply because McGregor was excercising his own free speech? That makes McGregor a hypocrite? That is straight out of the Conservative Strawman argument book -- my conservative family members, the conservative family members of my friends, use it all the time: "I thought you were supposed to be tolerant." It shows a fundamental lack of intelligent debate and really just makes him the actual hypocrite.
  • He hates being politically correct but unlike good comedians who subvert political correctness with grace and intelligence, he tactlessly does it through cringey edgelord rants.
  • He likes racist posts (someone linked to him liking an Islamaphobic post).
  • Hell, even fans on his own subreddit have claimed it harder and harder to support him after every new rant and that his rants are becoming increasingly more incoherent as well.
I used to enjoy his Grump episodes but he really is a horrible person.

What criticism is to be had? It was a nonviolent, uber-peaceful protest against a man who has ties to Russia and is a piece of human filth who, not through the people but through the Electoral College (which means we have to go down a rabbit hole explaining gerrymandering and how that skews shit), won the Presidency. And some would say it wasnt even the EC but Russia that helped him win it. A guy who bragged about sexual assault and has a long history of making incredibly disgusting comments about women. The only people who actually criticize it are pretty much just Trump supporters or people who don't understand why women should rightly be afraid for their rights and bodies under his Presidency -- and neither of those are legitimate criticisms of the march.

I didn't make a list of grade A assholes, I said Piers Morgan is one and that Jon is one too. That's it. We could be here all day and Anita wouldn't crack the top 100, I'd bet.

Oh my fucking god, "fake news! Fake news!" The people crying about fake news are the same types of people who talked about "ethics in gaming journalism!" Talk about circular logic. Milo Yiannopoulos was literally a figurehead of the Gamer Gate movement and he writes for Breitbart. Breitbart is the actual definition of fake news -- the same place that Steven Bannon was long a part of and hired the pro-pedophilia Milo Yiannopoulos. Thats the same Bannon who basically controls Trump right now. That's the same Breitbart that has gotten preferential treatment over other news organizations which have actually been barred from Trump's affairs. So no, the history books don't actually look back on Gamergate as overall right. Because it wasn't.

Yeahhh, see. That's typically how people are assholes/horrible people. They say something that people don't agree with and find asshole-ish. Calling anyone a horrible person is subjective because one can, should they be so inclined, attempt to debate morals all the way down into a never ending hole. I mean, playing devils advocate, one could ask what makes murder wrong. Most people would explain the usual reasons for why its wrong but that can always be met with "yeah, but why is that wrong?" But that's fuckimg stupid. Of course I said he's an horrible persom because he said stuff I disagree with because I think the things he says are horrible. Crazy how that works.

See, I do understand jokes. That's why I can listen to someone like Louis CK cracking racist or sexist jokes because that is someone who understands comedy at a fundamental level. JonTron? Eh, not really. And once again, there's a difference between a joke and simple petulant rage. Jon is the latter.

DAE liberal snowflakes?

Nothing about Trump and his administration, about Breitbart or Milo Yiannopoulos, is 'nuanced.' The only thing that is somewhat more nuanced than that is the Womens Marches but considering their plans to eradicate Planned Parenthood, it starts to make sense. Considering scientists are planning their own marches, one has to at least stop and go "huh, thats weird."

The only reason Youtubers and other celebrities are stepping forward with their views seemingly more now than ever, is because of how many people view him and his policies as fascist. It shouldn't be a matter of Democrat vs Republican. The GOP, if they had any sort of goddamned spine, would be just as Anti-Trump as the Left. I guarantee that no one would have acted this up in arms if it had been, say, Romney who became President. Or McCain, or Bush. But the GOP allowed themselves to be cannibalized by the bible thumping, fundamentalist extremist Christian fascists of the Tea Party and white nationalist Stormfront neckbeards who lol at feminism lmfao Pepe Richard Spencer lol Nazi imagery is so funny because jews lol snowflakes

It's people like Jon that propelled Trump to being the frontrunner of the GOP. It's people like him that led to all these youtubers finally posting their political thoughts at seemingly every opportunity.
 
Drama over at r/gamegrumps about JonTron's recent video. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Also Jon apparently was the reason Trump won or some shit

http://archive.is/TK4MG
The subreddit has always had its issues, more so than a lot of fandoms. They had to create two separate offshoot reddits for the fandom because people would not stop complaining about every tiny little thing, like how Jon needed to come back (r/ventgrumps) or stop insisting Danny and Arin where totally actually in love and his wife was ruining everything and how all the guys really want to fuck each other(r/polygrumps). Or how Arin is actually a closeted repressed transwoman(something he mocked in a recent Link: The Faces of Evil video).
 
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The subreddit has always had its issues, more so than a lot of fandoms. They had to create two separate offshoot reddits for the fandom because people would not stop complaining about every tiny little thing, like how Jon needed to come back (r/ventgrumps) or stop insisting Danny and Arin where totally actually in love and his wife was ruining everything and how all the guys really want to fuck each other(r/polygrumps). Or how Arin is actually a closeted repressed transwoman(something he mocked in a recent Link: The Faces of Evil video).

For fans of a show that is entirely based on two dudes sitting on a couch, talking shit over a terrible videogame, the GameGrumps fandom is chock full of special snowflakes who can't treat anything with a sense of levity.

I blame Arin going all SJWy and courting the tumblr crowd. There's a reason /r/jontron is a nonstop shitposting arena and /r/gamegrumps has all this tedious hand-wringing and metacommentary.
 
For fans of a show that is entirely based on two dudes sitting on a couch, talking shit over a terrible videogame, the GameGrumps fandom is chock full of special snowflakes who can't treat anything with a sense of levity.

I blame Arin going all SJWy and courting the tumblr crowd. There's a reason /r/jontron is a nonstop shitposting arena and /r/gamegrumps has all this tedious hand-wringing and metacommentary.
It's gotten better over the past year or so. I think Arin realized there's no real winning with people like that, so he stopped giving a shit.
 
Sorry for double post, but expect new salt.

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Jon knew exactly what he was doing posting that infowars article. The story had been reported in other mainstream outlets but he chose infowars. He is doing it solely to stir shit and these people have their heads so far up their asses that they are oblivious to it.
 
It's gotten better over the past year or so. I think Arin realized there's no real winning with people like that, so he stopped giving a shit.

This. Arin's gotten way better. Frankly, everyone's starting to see where the real assholes are.
 
I was never aware Arin went "SJW-y" at all. Going from how he tells it he just plays girls all the time because he likes looking at Jill Valentine's butt.

He didn't. Or so popular rumor goes.

From what I've read: What happened is that his audience faced an attempt by SJWs to colonize the fanbase. At around the same time, Arin got a bit more subdued due to dealing with other shit and stopped making a lot of his more famous content. The actual fans drove off the initial infestation, but it looked bad to casual onlookers and Arin sure as shit wasn't gonna speak up about politics with how much of a shit-show it was. It wasn't Arin's fault, it was more the fact that people had seen dozens of content creators get hit the same way and actually drink the Kool-Aid.

People feared the worst. Hence the Arin SJW fears.
 
He didn't. Or so popular rumor goes.

From what I've read: What happened is that his audience faced an attempt by SJWs to colonize the fanbase. At around the same time, Arin got a bit more subdued due to dealing with other shit and stopped making a lot of his more famous content. The actual fans drove off the initial infestation, but it looked bad to casual onlookers and Arin sure as shit wasn't gonna speak up about politics with how much of a shit-show it was. It wasn't Arin's fault, it was more the fact that people had seen dozens of content creators get hit the same way and actually drink the Kool-Aid.

People feared the worst. Hence the Arin SJW fears.

Not sure if this is heading off topic but what about Arin's wife? Did she have anything to do with the whole thing? I heard rumors that she was becoming more and more of a feminist and this had some bearing on the rumors about Arin getting pussywhipped and starting to lean towards an SJW mindset due at least in part to her influence.
 
Not sure if this is heading off topic but what about Arin's wife? Did she have anything to do with the whole thing? I heard rumors that she was becoming more and more of a feminist and this had some bearing on the rumors about Arin getting pussywhipped and starting to lean towards an SJW mindset due at least in part to her influence.

I'd heard that too but all evidence is that she's been willing to skirmish with them on Social Media. More data is needed.
 
Suzy tried to play the sexism card at one point. Basically saying the only reason why people don't like it when she's on the show is because they're sexists.

Her tumblr post
Want to know how sexism around video games effects me? Heres a new way that came into my life today-
I was informed that I know little to nothing about video games and that’s why I shouldn’t be on Game Grumps.
I play video games daily. Every day. I would even venture to say that I play more video games than half of the Game Grumps cast - but I am the one being singled out?
The amount of hate that I get from the Game Grumps community is insane. I have never been approached by an unhappy fan EVER in all of my con appearances and such, which leads me to believe this is just a “vocal minority” thing.
I can understand people saying “well, shes just not funny”-Everyone has a different sense of humor - and I am NEW to this! All of the guys have hundreds, if not thousands of episodes on me- I can only hope to achieve 1/10th of their skills- these things will come with time.
First and foremost game grumps was a show about friends hanging out and playing video games - when was being funny a prerequisite?
I don’t believe anyone on Game Grumps deserves the hate we get. We make a show for fun, to have fun. Why make it about something else?

It seems relatively mild now but she posted that back when gamergate was in full swing so everybody kinda lost their mind over it for a little bit.
 
Suzy tried to play the sexism card at one point. Basically saying the only reason why people don't like it when she's on the show is because they're sexists.

Her tumblr post


It seems relatively mild now but she posted that back when gamergate was in full swing so everybody kinda lost their mind over it for a little bit.

My guess is less GG having anything directly to do with that and more we've seen content creators fall into that trap before. GG just caused a lot of them to come out of the woodwork at around the same time, so people were paranoid.
 
He didn't. Or so popular rumor goes.
People feared the worst. Hence the Arin SJW fears.

I think the rumor is also that Arin is the ultimate uneducated white male. I think from his own account, he said he didn't even graduate high school? Granted that's because he was busy actually becoming famous and he had a sure-fire thing, he was involved in that TV show and doing his famous internet animations.

But he's also born in Florida and, I could imagine that he has some of that in him. People, especially now, tend to view politics as black and white, us and them. So anyone who doesnt fit the rigid, staunch standards of the monolithic group of "them" has to be one of "us". He's a business owner so I could imagine Arin being socially liberal but fiscally conservative. The dude plays the role of an actor, and is a very public facing figure, so I assume he wears his act all the time, whether or not it's too much of an act -- I think he realizes there's a lot riding on him and he has to act professionally and hold his tongue on certain things.
 
I think the rumor is also that Arin is the ultimate uneducated white male. I think from his own account, he said he didn't even graduate high school? Granted that's because he was busy actually becoming famous and he had a sure-fire thing, he was involved in that TV show and doing his famous internet animations.

But he's also born in Florida and, I could imagine that he has some of that in him. People, especially now, tend to view politics as black and white, us and them. So anyone who doesnt fit the rigid, staunch standards of the monolithic group of "them" has to be one of "us". He's a business owner so I could imagine Arin being socially liberal but fiscally conservative. The dude plays the role of an actor, and is a very public facing figure, so I assume he wears his act all the time, whether or not it's too much of an act -- I think he realizes there's a lot riding on him and he has to act professionally and hold his tongue on certain things.

Allegedly, Arin dropped out of high school because his particular school was terrible and his mom suggested he'd be better off getting a GED. Which he does have.
 
I think the rumor is also that Arin is the ultimate uneducated white male. I think from his own account, he said he didn't even graduate high school? Granted that's because he was busy actually becoming famous and he had a sure-fire thing, he was involved in that TV show and doing his famous internet animations.

But he's also born in Florida and, I could imagine that he has some of that in him. People, especially now, tend to view politics as black and white, us and them. So anyone who doesnt fit the rigid, staunch standards of the monolithic group of "them" has to be one of "us". He's a business owner so I could imagine Arin being socially liberal but fiscally conservative. The dude plays the role of an actor, and is a very public facing figure, so I assume he wears his act all the time, whether or not it's too much of an act -- I think he realizes there's a lot riding on him and he has to act professionally and hold his tongue on certain things.
I think that was essentially it at the time. He was in a stressful position where there were a lot of his friends' jobs depending on him and he was trying to make sure everything went smoothly, so he toned himself down slightly and was more "socially conscious" or whatever you want to call it. Now that things are more secure and it's not in that dangerous tipping point, he can be himself more and not worry too much about people overreacting to stuff.

I'm guessing it's something similar with Jon since he's being as outspoken as he wants.

Allegedly, Arin dropped out of high school because his particular school was terrible and his mom suggested he'd be better off getting a GED. Which he does have.

Yep, he talks about it right here(skip to 8:11).

 
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