🌟 Internet Famous Vivienne Medrano / VivziePop / NozzArts / @VizzieBizzie / xZoOPhobiAx / VivMind / Spindlehorse Studios - Bisexual Fujoshi Now Turned Asexual ; Criticism Denier ; Ruined Her Friendships Over Criticism ; Shotacon ; Nepo Baby ; Female Andrew Dobson ; Drove A Former Friend to Suicide Over Art Theft ; Verdict Is Still In, And No One Wants To Have Sex With Her

[Vyse Inglebard]

there's a joke in Helluva Boss when Blitzo yells at the receptionist "You FUCKING RE...alllllly can't say that word anymore"

yes, because after all:

ironic, considering Viv cited South Park as one of her biggest inspirations. yet, as with every woke creator who cites non-woke media as their inspiration, they take exactly the wrong lessons from it

 

[brownsuagrbubbletea]

Are people in Viv's circle really shitting and crying over the word "retarded" and comparing it to racial slurs? kek. Vivzie definitely says it and there's a joke in Helluva Boss when Blitzo yells at the receptionist "You FUCKING RE...alllllly can't say that word anymore"

Iirc some people had an issue to it way when the hb pilot first came out so I wouldn’t call it new.

And I hate to be that person but this is such a first world issue

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

Are people in Viv's circle really shitting and crying over the word "retarded" and comparing it to racial slurs? kek. Vivzie definitely says it and there's a joke in Helluva Boss when Blitzo yells at the receptionist "You FUCKING RE...alllllly can't say that word anymore"

Actually, those people crying are the critics of the show which is hilarious because half of them want her to be more edgy but no swears?

 

[#FreeRoss]

Actually, those people crying are the critics of the show which is hilarious because half of them want her to be more edgy but no swears?

There should be a spinoff of Hazbin Hotel about heaven that contains no swear words.

 

[King Metalia]

Are people in Viv's circle really shitting and crying over the word "retarded" and comparing it to racial slurs? kek. Vivzie definitely says it and there's a joke in Helluva Boss when Blitzo yells at the receptionist "You FUCKING RE...alllllly can't say that word anymore"

Imaging Viv's circle of fans tears streaming down their faces into their pumpkin spice lattes as they cry about how triggered they are is hysterical to me.

 

[brownsuagrbubbletea]

Actually, those people crying are the critics of the show which is hilarious because half of them want her to be more edgy but no swears?

Sperg but the critic community on tumblr is sometimes pathetic bc they claim to want Viv to make the show full on edgy them whatever the hell it is now but when it does they make a slightly edgy joke they make like thousands of vent posts about it.

Like say what you want about viv’s writing but it is lowkey funny in a way watching them freak out to eachother

 

[DickMain]

It gets even better because the milk is never ending.
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ah yes because as if one slur isn't worse than the other.

I've never understood this one. 'Retard' is a slur? Against who? It's a medical term, for being low-IQ. Are they trying to convince me I'm bigoted towards stupid people? I feel like the image they have in their heads of a 'retarded' person is somebody with, like, down syndrome, which isn't the same thing and reflects more poorly upon them for assuming as much.

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

Sperg but the critic community on tumblr is sometimes pathetic bc they claim to want Viv to make the show full on edgy them whatever the hell it is now but when it does they make a slightly edgy joke they make like thousands of vent posts about it.

Like say what you want about viv’s writing but it is lowkey funny in a way watching them freak out to eachother

This discourse started because a Critic said the r slur, then led to some retard named Critical-Bug making a post that ended up with them doing drugs to cope with the r slur. It's really filled with retards.

I've never understood this one. 'Retard' is a slur? Against who? It's a medical term, for being low-IQ. Are they trying to convince me I'm bigoted towards stupid people? I feel like the image they have in their heads of a 'retarded' person is somebody with, like, down syndrome, which isn't the same thing and reflects more poorly upon them for assuming as much.

Pleasantspark (The critic who said the slur) said that the r slur was a medical term. And explained that the n word was far more derogatory then the R slur. Since an anon on another person's Tumblr tried to say the r slur was worse than the n or f slur.

Yeah the critic community is shit. I don't understand why they have a need to derail a whole ass conversation for this specific thing. It's gotten so bad that muh muh harassment all I wanted to do was "criticize Hazbin" which is funny cuz critical bug started this mess. In a way I find it hard to believe anything good will come from saying "oh don't say this word" then allow a anon to essentially argue that one word is worse then another word.

If you're so butthurt over a word that shouldn't affect you, then shouldn't you also be consistent and view slurs all in the same light? Oh wait this is Tumblr it's filled with retards.

 

[Chef Red Pill]

I'm sure this has been said but I watched an episode of Helluva Boss and I noticed a distinct lack of racists in hell. Are all the racists in heaven? Why is hell filled with nothing but fags? Is this why Gators sister likes this shit? Is Viv our girl?

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

I'm sure this has been said but I watched an episode of Helluva Boss and I noticed a distinct lack of racists in hell. Are all the racists in heaven? Why is hell filled with nothing but fags? Is this why Gators sister likes this shit? Is Viv our girl?

Yeah in the HelluvaVerse Thread, but we can make the assessment Rosie is racist since she owns the Mulatto Alastor.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

I've never understood this one. 'Retard' is a slur? Against who? It's a medical term, for being low-IQ. Are they trying to convince me I'm bigoted towards stupid people? I feel like the image they have in their heads of a 'retarded' person is somebody with, like, down syndrome, which isn't the same thing and reflects more poorly upon them for assuming as much.

You can blame these lovely people for being the cause of why retard became so unfavorable to use. These parents had a daughter who was, in the medical term, retarded. They decided to make a huge fuss about the word and got a federal law made to change the medical diagnosis of "mental retardation" to an "intellectual disability". And they used their daughter as the main driving point for their campaign, saying that she was offended by the word. When it's very clearly the parents that are upset and are ashamed of their daughter for being mentally challenged.

 

[Steven Soyberg]

Ironic, considering Viv cited South Park as one of her biggest inspirations. yet, as with every woke creator who cites non-woke media as their inspiration, they take exactly the wrong lessons from it

This is another thing horrorfags do that I hate.

When they make horror related content they'll always cite the classics like Psycho or The Shining and never actually learn from the methods those films used to make effective horror. Opting instead to go with the retarded faggot cliche ridden bullshit that every other horror film has.

 

[Digital_Disaster]

The Hazbin Antis are just as annoying as the minors who shouldn't even be in the fandom, as well as the adult fans who harass other fans over Valentino...Joel Perez (Val's VA) has been badly harassed for playing that character. Fan artists are being bullied as well. Some have even been bullied right out of their socials and had to more elsewhere. These artists have also gotten all sorts of threats including rape threats...Over drawing and making merch of a cartoon moth....I'm personally an unapologetic Hazbin and Valentino fan.

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

The Hazbin Antis are just as annoying as the minors who shouldn't even be in the fandom, as well as the adult fans who harass other fans over Valentino...Joel Perez (Val's VA) has been badly harassed for playing that character. Fan artists are being bullied as well. Some have even been bullied right out of their socials and had to more elsewhere. These artists have also gotten all sorts of threats including rape threats...Over drawing and making merch of a cartoon moth....I'm personally an unapologetic Hazbin and Valentino fan.

It's not just that. Most of the Stans harass well meaning criticals. Most of the times it isn't the Antis and the fans themselves. Shay was harassed by other members of the community. I can argue that Joel defending Valentino would be the main cause as Valentino is meant to be hated but people found ways to like him because of his voice/look (which is shallow) but it shouldn't be a big deal to me, but I find it increasingly creepy that people attach the RAPIST to his VA which is ...yikes.

If there's anything to lessen the harassment Viv needs to address her fanbase and previous allegations/current otherwise people will be more inclined to continue this foul behavior. Because she cultivated a toxic fanbase and allows her VA's to allow children in the space (see Amir) it's not a surprise the fandom has been seen in a negative light. Remember. It's how the people react that gets the most hate and not the other way around. Antis and Stans are nearly the same. They both aren't just innocent beings and we need to stop saying the fandom is innocent.

I've seen anti Hazbin creators (redesignera) also get hate as much as you say the fandom does (which I feel for you.) but I can't feel bad for a community that only got this reputation by the creators sketchy and dismissive behavior. Yes. Minors shouldn't be allowed. But then again the shows directed to adults and what we seen from SP. Children find pleasure in shows that they can't watch. But in this case the shows written by children.

While I appreciate and agree to some extent it's not just the Antis that do it. It's also your side of the fandom. What the Twitter users of the fandom keep saying and including other fandoms blame the Antis but like you cater your spaces. The only way you'll get hate is by vauging about people who hate your fandom and show instead of showing you love the show and not responding.

I feel as though the fandom should at least be open to be against children rather than allowing them to discourse about rape, teaching kids about CNC or generally putting adult VA in dangerous situations by talking to them. Which BTW is still the adults fault for engaging. But not to say you're completely wrong. I just hate both sides as much as I hate Viv.

 

[brownsuagrbubbletea]

The Hazbin Antis are just as annoying as the minors who shouldn't even be in the fandom, as well as the adult fans who harass other fans over Valentino...Joel Perez (Val's VA) has been badly harassed for playing that character. Fan artists are being bullied as well. Some have even been bullied right out of their socials and had to more elsewhere. These artists have also gotten all sorts of threats including rape threats...Over drawing and making merch of a cartoon moth....I'm personally an unapologetic Hazbin and Valentino fan.

I won’t argue on what you can and could like. Hell like Claude Frollo is one of my favorite villains sooo.

I think my issue (and maybe any others here) is that Hazbin/Helluva Standom and Hatedom are both just retarded at best.

Like both have to stop thinking liking a character means they support it irl ya da yass and thinking hate on the character ≠ hating the va.

Pretty much like Boots said.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

The Hazbin Antis are just as annoying as the minors who shouldn't even be in the fandom, as well as the adult fans who harass other fans over Valentino...Joel Perez (Val's VA) has been badly harassed for playing that character. Fan artists are being bullied as well. Some have even been bullied right out of their socials and had to more elsewhere. These artists have also gotten all sorts of threats including rape threats...Over drawing and making merch of a cartoon moth....I'm personally an unapologetic Hazbin and Valentino fan.

It's not just that. Most of the Stans harass well meaning criticals. Most of the times it isn't the Antis and the fans themselves. Shay was harassed by other members of the community. I can argue that Joel defending Valentino would be the main cause as Valentino is meant to be hated but people found ways to like him because of his voice/look (which is shallow) but it shouldn't be a big deal to me, but I find it increasingly creepy that people attach the RAPIST to his VA which is ...yikes.

Also let's not forget that both sides are very confused on what harassment is. Getting a death threat is very much different than receiving a negative opinion.

I'm very wary of either side since it's very easy to just say you're getting a slew of death threats, gore videos, and other shit thrown your way without any proof. I wouldn't say a couple of troll accounts telling you to "kys" to be a harassment campaign, but I'm sure a lot of these people would.

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

Also let's not forget that both sides are very confused on what harassment is. Getting a death threat is very much different than receiving a negative opinion.

I'm very wary of either side since it's very easy to just say you're getting a slew of death threats, gore videos, and other shit thrown your way without any proof. I wouldn't say a couple of troll accounts telling you to "kys" to be a harassment campaign, but I'm sure a lot of these people would.

Most of the times they sperg about how this site is a hate site when all I see is pedos, rapists, and scammers getting mocked. The fearmongering is wild.

 

[Twokster Prime]

Hell, I don't get why people are so enraged by webcomic artists going batshit. It goes with the territory.

Remember Dave Cheung, or Dresden Codak, or Shadman, or hundreds of annoying people on DA or Fur Affinity, or a long list of others?

Is it because Medrano was more successful than the vast majority? Just thinking.

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

Hell, I don't get why people are so enraged by webcomic artists going batshit. It goes with the territory.

Remember Dave Cheung, or Dresden Codak, or Shadman, or hundreds of annoying people on DA or Fur Affinity, or a long list of others?

Is it because Medrano was more successful than the vast majority? Just thinking.

Because Medrano offered them LGBTQ+ which isn't even good anyhow. They are so desperate for any tranny and homogay rep that they'll do anything for dem rep. Get that shit elsewhere. Viv is a gooner Shotacon lover who abused her powerr to cuddle with her buddies. Role reversal and she'll be bashed. So yes. It's because she's a WAHMAN. And bisexual.

 

[King Metalia]

Hell, I don't get why people are so enraged by webcomic artists going batshit. It goes with the territory.

Remember Dave Cheung, or Dresden Codak, or Shadman, or hundreds of annoying people on DA or Fur Affinity, or a long list of others?

Is it because Medrano was more successful than the vast majority? Just thinking.

Has Viv reached the Sophie Labelle stage of being a web comic creator yet?