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Soooo how again does prosecution prove what the picture was again?
Question for the legally-inclined townsfolk (paging @PotentiallyCriminal): If the single photo in question is indeed produced, can Aaron's defence 'flood the field' by producing dozens of other similar lewds that Kayla and Nick gave Aaron as a 'is this your card?Are you 100% sure?' strategy to sufficiently convince the jury that this is all a den of petty degenerates?![]()
Ralph claims (via Geno apparently) that he was offered the misdemeanor
Ralph: I've been told, by a couple different people - now again, it's not verified - but that he's turned down a plea deal already. And if you look at what they have on him, just by what you guys have said, and -
Keanu: I'm gonna stop you there and say there's a reason for what you're saying.
Ralph: That he turned down a plea deal? Yeah, because he'll have to serve 90 days in jail automatically, because he has a -
Keanu: No, no, not that, Ethan.
Ralph: Oh, oh.
Keanu: But there's a reason for what you're saying, you know, so - and that's fine, that's fine, that's Rekieta telling you, you know. That's the Rekieta spin on whatever it is, and that's fine. Eugene and I will go right to Minnesota and sit there and say the exact fucking thing we did.
Geno: And I'm going to -
Ralph: No, I'm not - I'm not saying - Rekieta didn't tell me he was going to jail. I'm saying that if they have - if he turned down a plea deal, and, because it's hard to prove intent, right? And that's how they got him on harassment thing, right, or the felony charge. Usually a revenge porn charge is a misdemeanor. Mine was. And so I was shocked that he had a felony count on that.
Ralph: I was told by two different people - now again, I can't prove this but they were reputable people and it wasn't the Rekietas, I'll say that for the record - that Aaron turned down a plea deal that would have dropped the felony count, and he would have had to plead to the misdemeanor.
Keanu: *shakes head*
Ralph: Now he has a 90-day - and this may be wrong...
Keanu: *shakes head*
Keanu: Why wouldn't he just plead to the misdemeanor?
Ralph: Well, I know, it doesn't make sense to me, so it might not be - it might not be true -
Keanu: Because it's not true.
Ralph: OK, well if you know - if you're saying for a fact that's not true, then you know, I'll take your word on it. You know him far better than I do -
Keanu: I like you a lot Ethan, I'm sorry if I'm being sassy. It's like, it's not even -
Ralph: No, no, I don't mind at all. I'm just saying, if he did, that was really dumb, but you're saying it didn't happen, and you know him better than me. I'll just take that as, OK, he didn't do that. Well, OK then, they're playing hardball though...
Ralph: They seem to be preparing for trial, alright, not preparing to cut a deal. I could be wrong, because like I said, usually they always end in a plea deal, but -
Keanu: The thing is: why would you take the deal that says we'll give you a felony, and then maybe remove it later? Would you take that deal?
Ralph: They may have recovered something from somewhere. He didn't flat-out say that, you know, he's beating around the bush a little. And if they -
Keanu: They don't even know what the photo is. They texted us, April and Nick texting us, going, "could you describe the photo? We have many that we think it could be, but we can't figure out which one it is." They don't have it, so -
Ralph: Yeah, but you guys have admitted that it happened, you know what I mean? So they know that there was a nude photo exchanged, "your boy didn't do so bad did he," right? I mean, it's right there -
Keanu: Right, everyone knows that. No one's denying that.
Ralph: Yeah, so they have him, but the intent to harass -
Keanu: No no no, it's not their photo. They don't know what it is because it's a photo that she posed for, for Aaron.
Ralph: Yeah I know what you're saying, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I get what you're saying, that he took the picture himself.
Ralph: There's two things they could be doing. One: they're just showing him "we're not fucking around, and you'd better take whatever deal we eventually offer - if he didn't turn down the deal like I was told before - and here, we have everything, we have you nailed. Or: they're actually gonna take him to trial, in which case I think that they probably have everything they need to convict him, definitely on the misdemeanor, and -
Keanu: Unless me and Eugene don't show up.
Ralph: Well, y'all had better -
Keanu: I'm teasing, if we have to go we'll go.
Ralph: Please don't say that, don't say that Keanu. For you guys' sake I hope he cuts some kind of deal, because then you won't have to show up obviously.
Crossposting from the Imholte thread: in the second clip from Keanu's Killstream appearance this week
They NEED Geno to prove dissemination/publish of the RP.
1. Is the implication that the lewd Aaron sent to Geno is NOT from Signal?
2. Does the State even know what pic it is?????????? Sounds like they may not know if the thruple was trying to figure it out.
3. If Nick/Kayla/April don't know what photo it is and neither does the State, what's stopping Geanu from denying that there were nipples and genitals?
4. I know that Keanu (and Geno?) have confessed publicly that Kayla was fully naked... but what's stopping them from denying it on the stand? They can claim they wanted clicks and views and barely looked at the pic.
For all the court knows, Aaron sent Geno an AI image. Even Geno wouldn’t be able to say definitively that what he saw wasn’t an AI image.
5. Is this an excuse for Aaron to try to get all the Signal lewds into evidence as some effort to show that it was a shit show? (Omg, please make it so.) I know... not likely... but hope springs eternal.
Yeah.Because his humiliation fetish/need to make people uncomfortable with how much of a sexually degenerate reprobate he is are the only things that get the blood flowing to his limp, broken dick.
He is very much like a troon in that regard, he relishes any opportunity to make people uncomfortable in a deranged manner while they cannot fight it back.
LOL. Also more on this below.She further adds that the reason for this search being unsuccessful was "because" Kayla posed for the photo taken by Aaron, which would not need to have ever made its way into the Signal chat for Aaron to have had it to send to Geno, and it could have been confined to his device until being forever lost when Geno deleted his copy and Aaron's copy wound up in a tragic boating accident.
This would be the funniest outcome.
The other thing, if Aaron did take the picture, the metadata on the image sent to Geno was likely removed. (Depends on the app, depends on the carrier, but generally the images are compressed and any extra stuff, including metadata, removed for pics sent over MMS.) The carrier I believe also wouldn't have the metadata if the State was able to recover the photo from the carrier (on the image Aaron sent to Geno). So the only way Aaron can prove he took the photo, becomes a he-said/she-said situation with Kayla. Yes, if the Signal group chat wasn't sunsetted, as it sounds, then they could prove it didn't come from the group chat.The biggest problem with this approach is that Aaron claims his tragic boating accident leaves him with no Signal chat archive that his attorney could have used to walk through with the witnesses on cross,
Instead, an alternative path to cross-examination about the "many" non-disseminated Signal lewds would be their effect on challenging witnesses' credibility, which is virtually always fair game:
I'd rather explore the question if you can claim a picture to be private if it was shared in a group-chat.Now, I don't know if the Minnesota law matters that much how Aaron got the image (it seems only to be concerned with the sending of the image), but to the jury it may be a huge difference between "sharing a group message pic" versus "sharing a pic Aaron took".
Based on his past behavior, I wouldn't be surprised if Nick sent "Mandy" both his and Kayla's nudes to try and convince him to a 3some at a meetupOne last issue while we're on the topic.
I would bet a lot of money that Kayla and Nick have sent her nudes (with nips and genitals) to others. The list of possible recipients is long: friends they made in the Locals cult and/or in Vegas and/or Anime Matsuri and/or to the likes of Coomalot. Nick is aware of this problem as well:
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It's an amusing exercise to consider who might have said pics. ArttheClown? EgalitarianBtch? Carimachet? That stripper/pole dancer whose name I'm forgetting? Jamaicans? Have any of these people become detractors?
I doubt Aaron's lawyers have considered this strategy (and I know it's not necessarily relevant to the letter of the RP law)... But, as you said, it IS relevant to Kayla's credibility.
(Nerd moment: RP laws are widely considered to be over-broad. They're so new that they have not been effectively challenged. That said, I highly doubt any MN judge plans to reign it in.)
You snipped out the immediate follow-up sentence where I said anything Ralph says should be taken with a dump truck full of salt.Whoever his supposed source was definitely wouldn't have been Geno, because Ralph's comments about it yesterday on that prominent Dabbleverse show sure to be a gamechanger (heh) were referring back to when the same topic came up with Geno sitting right there in the Biscontes' Killstream appearance the other day (starting at 4:56:30).![]()
Geanu didn't file the report. Nick and/or Kayla did. The police then questioned Geanu to gather supplementary evidence so they could swear out the arrest warrant on Aaron.In this case, just going off the only conceivably pertinent statutes at Minn. Stat. 609.505, 609.506, 609.50, and 609.48, Minnesota is such a jurisdiction that would have been especially forgiving to Geanu had they simply recanted, and still would be should they choose to recant at any given time. Even if they were to wait until they're put under oath on the stand to say for the first time that it was all "just a comedy bit" and Aaron actually sent Geno a photo of Brooke Candy, it's not at all clear that they could be realistically charged with perjury for that matter.
I am confused why dixieland buckaroo is just making up facts now? Aaron arrest affidavit states picture was sent to group, per junkie/whore/sixI'd rather explore the question if you can claim a picture to be private if it was shared in a group-chat.
The records with witness statements does not say that though.I am confused why dixieland buckaroo is just making up facts now? Aaron arrest affidavit states picture was sent to group, per junkie/whore/six
It's also just wrong, not that this brain-charred drug addict is ever right about anything these days. Expectation of privacy is an element of the offense, so the burden is on the prosecution to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.This is all so tiresome. Again, what "expectation of privacy"? Kayla's lewds are everywhere.
A single person who also received nudes from Kayla would bring that claim into question.It's also just wrong, not that this brain-charred drug addict is ever right about anything these days. Expectation of privacy is an element of the offense, so the burden is on the prosecution to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
He's not making up facts.I am confused why dixieland buckaroo is just making up facts now? Aaron arrest affidavit states picture was sent to group, per junkie/whore/six
It says that they were sharing shit via Signal and that they collectively agreed to keep it private between them (which is meant to suggest there was an expectation of privacy).It says that they (the polcycule) communicated via Signal, it does not say they were in a group chat.
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ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME??????????? The 8yo had fucking cocaine in her system. Is this niggerfaggot just incapable of stop lying?!! Holy shit!