What conspiracy theories do you believe in? - Put your tinfoil hats on

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AnOminous said:
I don't believe it. We probably did expect them to retaliate somehow, but you don't deliberately get a huge chunk of your naval forces wiped out right before getting into a naval war with a great naval power. You'd think if it was on purpose, or at least by deliberately allowing it to happen, that they'd make it bad enough to go to war over, but not as devastating a coup as it actually was.

I do think, much like 9/11, that we had enough information at the time we should have been expecting it, but I don't think we actually did (unless it was some deep state actor who deliberately did it for some reason).

I'm a LOT more suspicious about 9/11 being allowed to happen, although mere incompetence is also at least a plausible explanation (but you would want it to be a plausible explanation if you were pulling off a conspiracy).
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My father, for all his WW2 knowledge, thought it was fishy af that there were reports of a foreign plane flying to Pearl Habor, but as the story gose the higher-ups brushed it off. I don't know any key details.
 
Starscream's Loyalty said:
My father, for all his WW2 knowledge, thought it was fishy af that there were reports of a foreign plane flying to Pearl Habor, but as the story gose the higher-ups brushed it off. I don't know any key details.
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>Go to war in Europe when attacked by Asia

Doesn't really make sense when you stop and think about it. Perhaps both that and 9/11 were intelligence failures were deliberately let happen to have a casus belli for getting involved in wars.
 
Candlelight Desolation said:
>Go to war in Europe when attacked by Asia

Doesn't really make sense when you stop and think about it. Perhaps both that and 9/11 were intelligence failures were deliberately let happen to have a casus belli for getting involved in wars.
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You say that as if we didn't go to war with Japan. And I'm gonna be pedantic but Japan isn't all of Asia and all of Europe wasn't involved either.
 
I remember somebody on /x/ or /pol/ like fifteen years ago tracking a bunch of data relating to North Korea and all the aid they receive from other countries and speculating that NK is a top down, deliberately engineered experiment regarding totalitarianism/communism, and that other nations are financing it so they can learn from the data.

I don't know whether I believe that or not -- whether it's manufactured or an emergent phenomenon -- but either way I absolutely believe North and South Korea can be viewed as lab mice for the competing global political ideologies right now, North Korea being a hyperbolic extrapolation of totalitarian nationalist communism and South Korea being a hyperbolic extrapolation of globalist taylorist corporate-capitalism, and we should be paying a lot more attention to the problems each are facing because they're going to become the problems that the East and West come to face in the near future.
 
Candlelight Desolation said:
>Go to war in Europe when attacked by Asia
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Germany and Japan were allies, and Japan had taken large chunks of European territory in asia and the pacific, which had damaged British ability to prosecute the war in both the far east and Europe. Germany declared war on the US alongside Japan, with the intent to take advantage of Japan's newly acquired Pacific holdings at the conclusion of the war. The Germans explicitly intended to reduce US influence and power by supporting the Japanese conquest of the pacific, and potentially even parts of the United States mainland.

The US was already committed to a level of support for Britain before it was drawn into direct conflict by Japan. It couldn't hope to take and defend all of that territory itself, but it had to defend against further incursions from Japan into its own territory and prevent Japan consolidating and exploiting its new territory, as that would be a direct threat to US security. The most effective way to deal with Japan was to first remove Germany, which would release the majority of the British and imperial forces, and most importantly most of their equipment from the European theatre, to fight in the pacific and south east asia.
 
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The books the nazis burned were about abhorrant descriptions of sex practice with children and animals the DEI loving Weimarians used to write down.
 
@Null is running a blackmail farm against the highest-IQ population of any social media site. If I can't delete posts, then I can't post any original opinion I might later use IRL without risking getting doxxed.

I guess I could have one KF profile for TND and another for non-TND stuff.
 
Null said:
don't flatter yourself
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That's not how it works. There's a reliable test. They made me take it and I got a score. How i feel about it is irrelevant.
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People who do well on the test don't like it when people who do poorly on the test constrain how we think and express ourselves. That's why we like your website, Jersh.
 
Finnegan the Supershark said:
@Null is running a blackmail farm against the highest-IQ population of any social media site. If I can't delete posts, then I can't post any original opinion I might later use IRL without risking getting doxxed.

I guess I could have one KF profile for TND and another for non-TND stuff.
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Imagine needing people to know you came up with an idea. Pssh. That's like needing people to know you were the person to shop a specific meme.
 
NoReturn said:
Imagine needing people to know you came up with an idea. Pssh. That's like needing people to know you were the person to shop a specific meme.
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It's not about credit. It's about articulating an autistic line of reasoning about an esoteric subject, which could later provide a connection to other social media from which I could be identified.

There aren't a lot of us 9/11 spergs left. I'd be thrilled if I could find a way to make the general public understand certain things without my anonymity being compromised at all. Old 9/11 posts are used against people all the time.
 
Finnegan the Supershark said:
It's not about credit. It's about articulating an autistic line of reasoning about an esoteric subject, which could later provide a connection to other social media from which I could be identified.

There aren't a lot of us 9/11 spergs left. I'd be thrilled if I could find a way to make the general public understand certain things without my anonymity being compromised at all. Old 9/11 posts are used against people all the time.
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So basically the mentality with objectively asking questions about 9/11 in America is "You will never ever express suspicion about any word of the official story, or you will be a pariah."
 
Candlelight Desolation said:
So basically the mentality with objectively asking questions about 9/11 in America is "You will never ever express suspicion about any word of the official story, or you will be a pariah."
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Most recently at RFK's Senate confirmation hearing, he was heckled by Tim Kaine for saying he "won't take sides" in the debate. Vivek Ramalamadingdong got called a conspiracy theorist for saying "Al-Qaeda definitely did it but we might not know all the details". Justin Trudeau kicked somebody out of his party for old Facebook inside job posts.

Tucker brings it up from time to time, but they had already made him a pariah. Joe Rogan used to talk about it before he blew up.

GEOTUS himself, builder of tall buildings, said soon after 9/11 that the consequences of the airliner impacts couldn't possibly be the sole cause of what happened. I don't mind that he hasn't brought it up lately for obvious reasons.

If I'm being honest, there is very strict gatekeeping within the "9/11 truth" community itself and my views are not welcome there, which makes me even more vulnerable if I were to make a post I can't delete, even on the one forum where intelligent people will actually see it.

All I'm saying is, it would be one thing to have to defend my 9/11 views in the Senate; it would be another if they used that to find my KF history.
 
Finnegan the Supershark said:
Most recently at RFK's Senate confirmation hearing, he was heckled by Tim Kaine for saying he "won't take sides" in the debate. Vivek Ramalamadingdong got called a conspiracy theorist for saying "Al-Qaeda definitely did it but we might not know all the details". Justin Trudeau kicked somebody out of his party for old Facebook inside job posts.

Tucker brings it up from time to time, but they had already made him a pariah. Joe Rogan used to talk about it before he blew up.
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All of these things should be immediate red flags there was absolutely a conspiracy involved.
 
The Foxtrot said:
I think the USA expected an attack on the Philippines, something that would take some time in which we could muster a response to. Not a decapitating strike against the US Pacific Fleet and its biggest naval base.
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That's exactly what I think. We expected something like that. They chose to do something wiping out our naval forces immediately. Yamamoto pumped it, the whole idea was wiping out our battleships. And it actually worked pretty well. Tactically brilliant, strategically retarded.

Because it really pissed us off.
 
I've been thinking about rigged NFL shit lately...what if Aaron Hernandez, the New England Patriots TE and supposed murderer, was actually murdered by the NFL? The New England Patriots were one of the most rigged teams in football since it was decided after 9/11 to have them win the Super Bowl (because the team name "Patriots", an example of subtle predictive programming). Because the Patriots were the "heel" team in the NFL's storyline, they had to lose Super Bowls every now and then...which they did in Super Bowl XLVI when Hernandez was with them. Aaron Hernandez seemed like a guy who knew bullshit when he saw it, and was hated by people "in the know" with how the NFL rigged shit like Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick. Even if he did kill that guy, did the NFL have him murdered in prison because he was blabbing the truth about how fake the NFL is?
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Here's Patriots owner Robert Kraft making a funny hand sign. He's a billionaire and knows a lot of people. I don't really believe in Illuminati stuff, but billionaires love using Illuminati symbolism for whatever reason. Aaron Hernandez blamed the Illuminati in his "suicide note." Really weird stuff.

There's also the potential the NFL murdered Steve McNair, the Tennessee Titans QB who was supposedly killed by the woman he was cheating with. What if he had been told to lose Super Bowl XXXIV with some dramatic play as a bit of "playtesting" for what became the transformation of the NFL into the WWE with scripted storylines? Personally I think the true beginning of that is the 2001 season, but they certainly tried it earlier. And unlike the other players involved in that famous "one yard short" play, Steve McNair had told it to people like his girlfriend and was considered a threat? Some players have talked about the NFL being rigged, but most of them aren't stars or credible names. McNair was one of the biggest stars of his day.
 
Finnegan the Supershark said:
If I'm being honest, there is very strict gatekeeping within the "9/11 truth" community itself and my views are not welcome there, which makes me even more vulnerable if I were to make a post I can't delete, even on the one forum where intelligent people will actually see it.
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We'll now I'm more curious what they are, captain vague.
 
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