What conspiracy theories do you believe in? - Put your tinfoil hats on

[goh]

Apropos of the news, I feel the need to point out that there's a strong argument that the Silk Road inadvertently kept illegal drugs "safer" and its dissolution aided and abetted the ongoing fentanyl crisis in America. The Silk Road operated on a reputation/review system that the worst drug dealers couldn't work around. As a result, dealers were coerced into more ethical drug manufacturing. Good sellers would go as far as to post lab results proving a drug's chemical purity. It's not a far reach to conclude that the Silk Road's destruction was planned by some third party to further pollute the recreational drug supply.

"But *insert onion site here* also works on a reputation/review system?

Correct, many onion sites copied the Silk Road, but none are as prolific as far as I know. As I've pointed out in previous posts, when a site goes down, the users never disappear. They spread to other sites like a virus; however, they rarelt consolidate toward a single site again. The Silk Road was trusted and well-known enough that a junkie or pusher could reasonably hear about it, then use the site for their own benefit.

 

[Wot Zit Too Yah0996]

This is how I feel about the "It's totally not a ban, guys" shit about digging below the Clovis layer in North America.


These ones? https://arkeonews.net/unique-works-of-anatolia-kilia-idols
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Let's compete a bit:


The Löwenmensch, carved between 41,000 and 35,000 years ago, and found in a cave called Hohlenstein-Stadel, which is in the Swabian Alps, in Baden-Württemberg, Germany.


The Venus of Willendorf, found in Lower Austria, thought to be made between 33,000 - 20,000 years ago.

@Screamer_2 It just means the Little Ice Age is coming to pass.

 

[Screamer_2]

I am absolutely convinced that our history as civilised, art creating, building creatures goes back an awful lot further than the usual 12kyo
The Löwenmensch is somewhere between 35-41000 years old. There’s a pig in a cave painting in Indonesian that’s 51,000 years old. The idea that humans just tootled along in an animalistic state for almost a million years then bang! 12kyo decided to build some T shaped pillars on a hill in Turkey is just nonsensical. We’ve had minds for well over 200k years, possibly a lot longer.
The idea that we have had perhaps multiple times gotten to a Bronze Age state in multiple places then been knocked back by natural disaster is one I think is compelling, but it’s is undeniable that we have had human minds for a long time.

I don't think anyone claims humans were just living as animals until 12000 years ago. We can even see today with primitive tribes an idea of how people lived. We really just have no idea what that looked like for 10,000s of years. Let alone 100,000 years ago. It certainly was more complex than we think but our records and what can be found and examined is low. There would have been a massive variety across the world. Endless societies and cultures that came and went. Whether or not they went to the Bronze age. Who knows. Even in relatively recent history most of the bronze got reused and left little behind. Span that out over thousands of more years. You'd understand it all being gone, but only in parts of the world that reached the bronze age. For plenty of parts of the planet, we certainly know people never developed past a certain primitive point.

Why is every winter abnormally cold nowadays?

Wasn't there supposed to be "global warming"?

It's undeniable that the planet is warming when looking at temperature records. The confusion people make about it being colder is that warmer temperatures put more moisture in the atmosphere. This means when it's cold, that moisture can turn into a hell of a lot of snow.

If it was just cold, there wouldn't be that much snow. Antartica is a desert because the air is dry from always being so cold down there. At the north end of the planet, the cold air from the arctic moves south, meets all the moisture dense air and dumps snow all over Europe and North America.

 

[Agares]

The people who believe in the depopulation agenda have it backwards: the elites want to turn America (and presumably all other western and developed countries) into giant overpopulated slums so they’ll have infinite slave labor. Matthew yglesias wants a billion americans, for example. And then there was that leaked EU migration map that talked about how many people could theoretically fit into each euro county (the estimates were ludicrous).

They’re freaking out about the decline in global fertility for a reason.

 

[Honest Fan Soni-chan]

Do you happen to have those leaked maps?

 

[Althalus]

This is one that recently occurred to me.

Remember the early 2000s? There was a (justified) fear of people being hurt by terrorism, which they used to pass surveillance laws, to create an infrastructure specifically to compile and catalog surveillance data. The stated purpose was to find and catch terrorists, but as we all learned from Snowden (and suspected prior) they were secretly collecting and keeping surveillance on literally everyone.

Fast-forward 20 years later- There is a (justified) fear of people being hurt by illegal migrants, which is being used to create an infrastructure that compiles and catalogs the location of illegals. The stated purpose is to find and deport illegals.....but suppose they are also using this as an opportunity to secretly develop methods of keeping tabs on everyone's location?

Edit to clarify, this is not an underhanded defense of keeping illegals. The scenario above, I simply cannot unsee.

 

[Tonty]

This is one that recently occurred to me.

Remember the early 2000s? There was a (justified) fear of people being hurt by terrorism, which they used to pass surveillance laws, to create an infrastructure specifically to compile and catalog surveillance data. The stated purpose was to find and catch terrorists, but as we all learned from Snowden (and suspected prior) they were secretly collecting and keeping surveillance on literally everyone.

Fast-forward 20 years later- There is a (justified) fear of people being hurt by illegal migrants, which is being used to create an infrastructure that compiles and catalogs the location of illegals. The stated purpose is to find and deport illegals.....but suppose they are also using this as an opportunity to secretly develop methods of keeping tabs on everyone's location?

Edit to clarify, this is not an underhanded defense of keeping illegals. The scenario above, I simply cannot unsee.

Possibly true theory, but this is happening already. Biometrics in passports and everyone has a tracking device (smartphone) on them nowadays, plus most normies willingly scatter personal information everywhere they go.
Most western countries have electronic travel authorizations now too, so they pre-vet you before you even enter the country.
What I'm saying is that 90%+ of the population is findable to within a small area by the authorities, at any time.

 

[NoReturn]

This is one that recently occurred to me.

Remember the early 2000s? There was a (justified) fear of people being hurt by terrorism, which they used to pass surveillance laws, to create an infrastructure specifically to compile and catalog surveillance data. The stated purpose was to find and catch terrorists, but as we all learned from Snowden (and suspected prior) they were secretly collecting and keeping surveillance on literally everyone.

Fast-forward 20 years later- There is a (justified) fear of people being hurt by illegal migrants, which is being used to create an infrastructure that compiles and catalogs the location of illegals. The stated purpose is to find and deport illegals.....but suppose they are also using this as an opportunity to secretly develop methods of keeping tabs on everyone's location?

Edit to clarify, this is not an underhanded defense of keeping illegals. The scenario above, I simply cannot unsee.

Possibly true theory, but this is happening already. Biometrics in passports and everyone has a tracking device (smartphone) on them nowadays, plus most normies willingly scatter personal information everywhere they go.
Most western countries have electronic travel authorizations now too, so they pre-vet you before you even enter the country.
What I'm saying is that 90%+ of the population is findable to within a small area by the authorities, at any time.

I know I keep making Psycho-Pass references recently, but honestly, that series has held up, and I strongly encourage people to watch Season 1 in the same way I recommend people read books like 1984, and watch films like Gattaca.

Spoiler: For those who *HAVE* seen it

Even the way Sybil works, right? If current AI is trained on us, then fine-tuned, that's not much different conceptually than how Sibyl works. Even the little details like how Akane owns nothing and is happy are relevant to this discussion.

 

[Althalus]

Possibly true theory, but this is happening already. Biometrics in passports and everyone has a tracking device (smartphone) on them nowadays, plus most normies willingly scatter personal information everywhere they go.
Most western countries have electronic travel authorizations now too, so they pre-vet you before you even enter the country.

These are good points, for ordinary people, but one can easily ditch the phone, and passports/electronic vetting isn't relevant within a country (yet).

What I'm saying is that 90%+ of the population is findable to within a small area by the authorities, at any time.

Keyword, 90% and "within small area". If you drop the phone and run into the woods, those odds get a lot more difficult. Even today they frequently can't find lost hikers, who generally have phones and want to be found. No phone, actively hiding (i.e. many illegals)? Gets even harder. Gov't no doubt want to (and will) improve whatever methods they use.

I know I keep making Psycho-Pass references recently, but honestly, that series has held up, and I strongly encourage people to watch Season 1 in the same way I recommend people read books like 1984, and watch films like Gattaca.

Thanks for the recommendation, have never seen it but will give it a watch.

 

[Fek]

Regarding the discussion on fear and its alleged justified nature:

I would suggest that there is no single fear in life that one can utilize as justification for handing their own power over to another in the name of so-called authority or safety. Fear only seeks to create more of itself through any means available.

One may notice a trend in that every so often, there is a crisis put forth which tests the masses on this very thing. A couple were mentioned a few posts up, and there's been countless examples brought up throughout the thread itself. What is the common thread to each which resulted in a further limiting of so-called rights and freedoms?

Fear.

People were afraid, and instead of facing that fear? Turning to each other as brother or sister? Finding a way to disarm the fear and give it no further attention in whatever way they could? They turned back to the very institutions which peddled it out in the first place - whether conspiratorial or otherwise.

Either way - it won't continue on like that for too much longer, relatively speaking. Those institutions and power structures are falling away even now. It seems most at least have an intuitive understanding that it is so - "it's all falling apart" or "things are going to crash and burn," etc.

 

[NoReturn]

Can someone here give me an explantion of pizzagate, becasue everywhere i look the only sourcres is get a left leaning news organizations.

All open and anonymous systems exist to be manipulated.

Ask yourself why voting has to be secret and anonymous. It absolutely doesn't.


TheTruthFactory did an outstanding breakdown.

She got plonked off of Youtube but she still has a Rumble channel.

https://rumble.com/c/TheTruthFactory

A meme reminded me of this creepy email: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/54545

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

A meme reminded me of this creepy email: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/54545
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Even if these people aren't pedos (oh but they are) the way they speak is so unnatural and bizarre it puts your teeth on edge. Something is very wrong with them.

 

[Fek]

These ones? https://arkeonews.net/unique-works-of-anatolia-kilia-idols

It didn't look like the pictured idols from what I recall, though I still find it interesting that more have turned up elsewhere. I'll see if I can dig it up next I have time for it. Neat find!

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

Having a YouTube streaming career (god help us) lowers your immune system. I don't know how or why but I swear youtubers are constantly flirting with death with how often they have conditions, sicknessness and deaths in their family.

A meme reminded me of this creepy email: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/54545
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This one and could have sworn there was a shitty blog website being shilled once in the leaks that were all about "come meet and spend time with the future queen" or something weird like that. I see people try to hand wave it parents just being cute with their kids but it comes off as just strange. I can't think of any parent talking about their kids like that. Gave off serious wtf vibes.

 

[goh]

A meme reminded me of this creepy email: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/54545
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Even if these people aren't pedos (oh but they are) the way they speak is so unnatural and bizarre it puts your teeth on edge. Something is very wrong with them.

Not gonna argue the Wikileaks emails too hard, especially the one's provided, but I've always wondered why conspiracy theorists assume they're only talking about children. The Clinton's in particular have ties to drug trafficking. I've always thought that the $65,000 in hot dogs was actually cocaine or some designer drug.
They're still satanic pedophiles that get away with it through irony and absurdity, but I digress.

Having a YouTube streaming career (god help us) lowers your immune system. I don't know how or why but I swear youtubers are constantly flirting with death with how often they have conditions, sicknessness and deaths in their family.

Staying indoors is bad for your health in general. Moreover, Youtubers often don't have a "secure" support network through work or interpersonal relationships, so their mental health is dogshit. Imagine having to worry about your friend/coworker being a child molester or, God forbid, a racist transphobe nazi bigot (which of course the streamer doesn't care about, but their audience does!).
Also, I would not be surprised if more streamers live like Asmongold or Pippa and just have the common sense (or inauthenticity) to keep it hidden from the viewing public.

 

[cactus]

Not gonna argue the Wikileaks emails too hard, especially the one's provided, but I've always wondered why conspiracy theorists assume they're only talking about children. The Clinton's in particular have ties to drug trafficking. I've always thought that the $65,000 in hot dogs was actually cocaine or some designer drug.

There's a high chance they were the ones behind that drug ring with that drop that got those two Arkansas boys killed since they saw something they weren't supposed to see. That case is still unsolved and it's pretty much an open secret who did it.

 

[AnOminous]

Humanity would band together to make Spacism, and it would be glorious.

I'm definitely siding with the fucking aliens because they at least have FTL.

 

[Honest Fan Soni-chan]

American archaeology is far more well-known than the public is let in on. There's not really even any special reason it's kept as secret as it is. The story is pretty much the same as anywhere else - civilizations rose, fell, were forgotten, and rose again. If anything, it's more a case of stovepiping by academics. They just don't publish outside of obscure niche academic journals that only offer copies in print.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I'm definitely siding with the fucking aliens because they at least have FTL.

In Star Trek and a number of other SF, the aliens can be more peaceful and enlightened than the Earthlings of the modern world.

In WH40K, going with the aliens is siding with xenos, which is HERESY of course.

Anyway, IRL, maybe even aliens lack FTL, as physics may limit the capabilities of technology to "the modern world". Which would also answer the Fermi paradox. So no aliens here because they are all, at most developed, "modern worlds" like this one... so they can't easily contact each other, except maybe by powerful directed radio signals and solar sail probes. Also, there could be relatively little technological civilizations out there. Like one in a billion or less star systems have "modern worlds" out there?

 

[NoReturn]

American archaeology is far more well-known than the public is let in on. There's not really even any special reason it's kept as secret as it is. The story is pretty much the same as anywhere else - civilizations rose, fell, were forgotten, and rose again. If anything, it's more a case of stovepiping by academics. They just don't publish outside of obscure niche academic journals that only offer copies in print.

What are some lesser-known/not-widely-known things that you know?