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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Guntsress Of Diabeteeze said:
Just out or pure curiosity and without being specific, what industries are you both in? @BrightonAndHoveAlbion @Bog-standard Poster
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I try not to stick to one industry or role, I have more feathers in my hat than the monopoly man falling head-first into a chicken coop.
The common thread of my roles is been involved in or orbiting 'making shit'.

That said, some countries you can live in while earning minimum wage. If you're really desperate, you can sell pictures of your arsehole and feet and make enough money to live in some non-wog, non-brownoid parts of the world.
 
Bog-standard Poster said:
That's bullshit that you've been fed. You can afford it (if you don't have a wife and kids) even then, it's affordable, just a little bit more tricky.
Trust me bro, the system has convinced you that you can't leave Britain. It's not true, you can leave and live a whole new, happier life, without much upset or challenge to your day to day living (YMMV).
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This is dead on. As long as you aren't a criminal or a complete layabout, leaving the UK is not hard. Immigrating to the US is a lot more straightforward than many think.

Not that this is a 1:1 for anyone here, but I know many Americans who became US citizens in short order by enlisting in the US military. Honorable service fast-tracks applications and waives a lot of fees. Most join the US Army, get a non-combat job (the US Army guarantees your job at enlistment, unlike every other branch), do their service, and then bring their family over. Another advantage is they pick an MOS that has civilian applications and get free job training. The Army pays for your certifications. One guy I know worked on trucks in the Army and now he's a mechanic.
 
isalaide said:
The UK is no longer a first world country.
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You say that, but we're still in the top 10 countries by GDP, as we probably have been for the last thousand years. Maybe this is just proof that the more useful measure, GDP per capita, always gets ignored.

Guntsress Of Diabeteeze said:
Is that the true sentiment about the UK? If London disappears then we would turn out like some poor eastern/Balkan European country? I know capital cities in most European countries are the powerhouse for most of the country but I feel like if you took Berlin out of Germany it would still be okay? Thoughts?
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I read an article about this once, which basically said, yes, London is far bigger than it should be, and Manchester and Birmingham are far smaller than they should be. We're not quite as top-heavy as places like the Czech Republic or Estonia, but yeah, it's not healthy.

Hey Johnny Bravo said:
I've been telling Brits to leave and all they do is mock the USA. I think that even happened in the thread about the summer riots.

I understand the desire to fix one's homeland, but the UK is a fundamentally class-based society and you are fucked if your mum and dad are working class and you didn't go to public school. I know Brits who immigrated to the US and they are a lot happier for it.
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Unfortunately anti-Americanism is part of what it means to be British nowadays. "That's how the Americans do it" is an argument against pretty much everything.
I've considered emigrating to the US, but it's a very different place. Things like: working practices, the religious Right, gun culture, tipping culture, quite how earnest it all is, the fact that some people don't hate all politicians, tolerance of crime, tolerance of drugs, the lingering remnants of troonery, the black underclass, the Hispanic underclass...
 
Guntsress Of Diabeteeze said:
Is that the true sentiment about the UK? If London disappears then we would turn out like some poor eastern/Balkan European country? I know capital cities in most European countries are the powerhouse for most of the country but I feel like if you took Berlin out of Germany it would still be okay? Thoughts?
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Outside of London the country is incredibly poor economically and relies heavily on the hospitality industry. We don't produce or export much or bring in much capital and the little we do is funnelled into London or they directly invest in London. Not to say there are not areas that do have money circulating around them but going to some northern city like Manchester, Leeds or Newcastle vs London is night and day economically.
 
My plan is that if the economy really does get that bad I'm just eating people, I tell this to grumpy old gits in the pub and they think I'm joking but I'm not.
A-Logato said:
Outside of London the country is incredibly poor economically and relies heavily on the hospitality industry. We don't produce or export much or bring in much capital and the little we do is funnelled into London or they directly invest in London. Not to say there are not areas that do have money circulating around them but going to some northern city like Manchester, Leeds or Newcastle vs London is night and day economically.
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Ever since the pajeets undercut us on call centres my shire's wonderful outcome for employment prospects is based entirely on warehousing bullshit, they've spent the last decade concreting over my views to throw up metal shacks to stash boxes of £3 crap in so they can hire a rotating band of swarthoids and press-ganged dole-dossers to fill up vans like that one episode of South Park.
It's all incredibly fragile I think lead balloons would have been a sounder investment, one of the companies involved actually went bust and got bailed out by one of the big boys but now they're also in trouble and are begging the council for tax relief.
 
Mound Dweller said:
My plan is that if the economy really does get that bad I'm just eating people, I tell this to grumpy old gits in the pub and they think I'm joking but I'm not.

Ever since the pajeets undercut us on call centres my shire's wonderful outcome for employment prospects is based entirely on warehousing bullshit, they've spent the last decade concreting over my views to throw up metal shacks to stash boxes of £3 crap in so they can hire a rotating band of swarthoids and press-ganged dole-dossers to fill up vans like that one episode of South Park.
It's all incredibly fragile I think lead balloons would have been a sounder investment, one of the companies involved actually went bust and got bailed out by one of the big boys but now they're also in trouble and are begging the council for tax relief.
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As someone who has worked in call centres once upon a time yeah there all full off or contract Pajeets in India to do all the work for them now. Their not even good at their jobs and tend to take all the low skilled jobs because they don't how to do anything beyond basic office 365, though all these small fast jobs makes their KPI's look good on paper so they hire more up until one becomes manager and then the nepotism goes into overdrive.

Also warehouses are just full of Polarks at this point. I personally have a fairly cushy job that took me a long time of swimming through this river of shit to get but I really don't see myself staying around where I live or in this country even within the short term. Job prospect wise it's none existent and the upwards mobility is pitiful unless I either want to join the Polarks in a warehouse or work in a Tesco.
 
A-Logato said:
Job prospect wise it's none existent and the upwards mobility is pitiful unless I either want to join the Polarks in a warehouse or work in a Tesco.
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Would you work in a warehouse for six months a year, to then live abroad in the sun for the other six months?
 
A-Logato said:
As someone who has worked in call centres once upon a time yeah there all full off or contract Pajeets in India to do all the work for them now. Their not even good at their jobs and tend to take all the low skilled jobs because they don't how to do anything beyond basic office 365, though all these small fast jobs makes their KPI's look good on paper so they hire more up until one becomes manager and then the nepotism goes into overdrive.

Also warehouses are just full of Polarks at this point. I personally have a fairly cushy job that took me a long time of swimming through this river of shit to get but I really don't see myself staying around where I live or in this country even within the short term. Job prospect wise it's none existent and the upwards mobility is pitiful unless I either want to join the Polarks in a warehouse or work in a Tesco.
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They really do ruin everything with their caste nonsense, happened to my local KFC of all places after they got a jeet manager and within 6 months the C was for curry, got shut down for not bribing the food safety people enough I think.
When I spent one shift in a warehouse a few years ago (never again) I was the only native there other than a 50 year old obvious crackhead , the rest of them were fresh off the eurotunnel slavs, it's a bit different now demographically (mostly school drop outs if the broccoli hair is anything to go by) because the jobcentres make them get jobs there now I think it's probably some future scandal.
 
Rusty Metal Skull Gun said:
I've considered emigrating to the US, but it's a very different place. Things like: working practices, the religious Right, gun culture, tipping culture, quite how earnest it all is, the fact that some people don't hate all politicians, tolerance of crime, tolerance of drugs, the lingering remnants of troonery, the black underclass, the Hispanic underclass...
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Most of what you list here is either a net benefit (guns) or is anti-American propaganda (crime is not rampant, we hate our politicians, etc). Don't believe the doomers on the Internet.
 
Mound Dweller said:
They really do ruin everything with their caste nonsense, happened to my local KFC of all places after they got a jeet manager and within 6 months the C was for curry, got shut down for not bribing the food safety people enough I think.
When I spent one shift in a warehouse a few years ago (never again) I was the only native there other than a 50 year old obvious crackhead , the rest of them were fresh off the eurotunnel slavs, it's a bit different now demographically (mostly school drop outs if the broccoli hair is anything to go by) because the jobcentres make them get jobs there now I think it's probably some future scandal.
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I've been getting a good chuckle out of the Elon situation with his grandstanding for Jeets. Their not high skilled at all and just flood low paying jobs whilst sending all the money back to India so their a literal economic parasite. I've worked with more then enough of them in tech to know that those visas are full of lies!

More companies are starting to contract people from the Netherlands to do IT for them which are mostly white from the limited amount of them I've dealt with so far and their in a much better time zone for the UK to do business with so I'd advise a lot of UK based middle management techies to start looking at your options.
 
Let me tell you the depths we've reached, relayed from a cousin (so trust me bro) just this week.

Right now, there's an Indian multinational, called Tech Mahindra, that is in a near-perpetual recruitment cycle to fill seats in a remote call centre service for the banking app Klarna. They are recruiting speakers of most northern and western european languages, including English, and are doing a significant amount of their recruitment in the UK. The initial pitch is a 9-5, with above minimum wage pay, decent benefits after six months, time and a half for mroe than two hours overtime and other such things. Half the recruits in my cousin's intake quit on the first day because they couldn't understand the trainer. Over the course of a week, half of the remaining trainees quit after discovering that the promised 9-5 was actually 8-76 with the expectation that they'd unofficially work through legally required breaks and remain connected after 6 in case they were needed. They would not be paid overtime for this. My cousin quit at the end of his training, after discovering that his starting wage was to be lower because - according to the barely literate Indian trainer - he wasn't sufficiently fluent in his own language. The trainer begged him not to leave; it was apparently going to make him look bad to his boss that so many people quit.

All this happened at the start of December and they're still advertising loads of positions, so they're clearly having terrible retention. It's most likely they expected everyone to quit before the probation period was over anyway.
 
Klarna is a Swedish company right ? Makes sense they wouldn't hire anyone there since they have reasonable wage expectations unlike the UK where you'll find people happy to work for less than 40K.

Edit: 'services' like Klarna are a fucking stain on society anyway, I wish them all the ill will I can
 
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