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Zemblan Physics said:
This is a side note, but why are burgers sedated for procedures like colonoscopies and wisdom tooth extractions? Just seems like a strange risk-benefit calculation. Sure, here in my little eurofagland you might get a shot of diazepam if you’re a scaredy cat, but anesthesia is out of the question.
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Sedation is not the same thing as anesthesia, and I'd be surprised if they did the procedure on a fully awake person anywhere in the world.
 
klarine said:
Sedation is not the same thing as anesthesia, and I'd be surprised if they did the procedure on a fully awake person anywhere in the world.
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What? I’ve had both fully awake. Local anesthesia for the teeth and one measly 5 mg Valium (per os) for the scope.
 
Zemblan Physics said:
What? I’ve had both fully awake. Local anesthesia for the teeth and one measly 5 mg Valium (per os) for the scope.
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Yes. usually wisdom teeth extraction only requires local anesthesia here too, unless the teeth are too buried or there are other issues to be addressed.

Valium sedation is still sedation, you felt fully awake because it was a mild sedation, but there is a significant level of relaxation that without it the doctors job would be significantly more difficult during the procedure.

Sedation does not stop you from reacting to pain or other stimulus even if unconsciously. It's not equivalent to full body anesthesia (but vicky is certainly making it seem like she's being put in a coma or something)
 
klarine said:
Valium sedation is still sedation, you felt fully awake because it was a mild sedation, but there is a significant level of relaxation that without it the doctors job would be significantly more difficult during the procedure.
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Yet I got nothing, except the local anesthesia. No valium, no relaxants, no nothing. It went fine , I was cracking jokes with the surgeon and the whole thing (taking out 2 wisdom teeth from the left side) took less than 10 minutes.
Even my eye surgery (relex smile) on both my eyes required only local anesthesia on the eyes (in form of eye drops)
People really don't need as many sedatives as some doctors claim
 
The Jewel of the Nile said:
Yet I got nothing, except the local anesthesia. No valium, no relaxants, no nothing. It went fine , I was cracking jokes with the surgeon and the whole thing (taking out 2 wisdom teeth from the left side) took less than 10 minutes.
Even my eye surgery (relex smile) on both my eyes required only local anesthesia on the eyes (in form of eye drops)
People really don't need as many sedatives as some doctors claim
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For wisdom teeth removal it is usual to not need anything but local anesthesia. I still felt the entire procedure during it because local inflammation made the anesthetic useless :c.

My father has periodic colonoscopies due to having had colon cancer and never have I seen doctors doing it without at least mild sedation.
 
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klarine said:
Maybe my burger-people blood is showing but this is very abnormal to me :c.
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I don't know this for certain, but I suspect the way our various healthcare systems operate might account for the difference in sedation; something like valium is cheap as shit and there is a huge markup in the US so docs/hospitals/dentists are more likely to use it without special request, bc money? That's my guess.

That said, I'll chime in that as an Ameri-fag, I had two erupted wisdom teeth out using only novacaine, because I was a very poor student at the time and I didn't have anyone to cover the extra $500+ something for light sedation. So I cranked up the loud music in my earbuds and we cracked em out of my skull. The fact that no one was like "no no no, you neeeeeeed to be sedated for safety purposes!" Or whatever tells me it's about money. Don't have money or don't have insurance to cover things to make you comfy? Then you don't get them in the US. But good insurance that the doctors can charge out the ass? Then you'll get options.

Mr. Judean People's Front recently had a Procedure on his very sensitive area (vasectomy) and insurance did not cover ANYTHING outside of the local anesthesia. We paid $250 out of pocket for Versed. America is crap.
 
klarine said:
I still felt the entire procedure during it because local inflammation made the anesthetic useless :c.

My father has periodic colonoscopies due to having had colon cancer and never have I seen doctors doing it without at least mild sedation.
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Holy crap, that’s tough to hear. Inflammation in the jaw area is such a nightmare to deal with. Are you doing better now? And how’s your dad, if you don’t mind me asking? Honestly, I’d be asking for sedatives too if I had to go through regular colonoscopies
The Judean People's Front said:
because I was a very poor student at the time and I didn't have anyone to cover the extra $500+ something for light sedation.
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$500+ just for sedatives?! That’s insane. For comparison, I paid about $250–$270 for two wisdom teeth extractions, X-rays, local anesthesia, and the head surgeon at my clinic. No wonder some of my distant relatives decided to have their dental work done in my country, even if it meant flying here 3 separate times
Zemblan Physics said:
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Now back to Vicky. Something struck me while I was in the kitchen today…
Why would they be “periodically checking her butt”? Which part of her butt—her asscheeks? And for what purpose? I’m no medfag, but that part seems totally fabricated (yes, yes, I know). What’s the point of periodically inspecting someone’s butt?

Unless she developed some really nasty pressure ulcers?
 
The Jewel of the Nile said:
Holy crap, that’s tough to hear. Inflammation in the jaw area is such a nightmare to deal with. Are you doing better now? And how’s your dad, if you don’t mind me asking? Honestly, I’d be asking for sedatives too if I had to go through regular colonoscopies
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I'm fine, this tale is from many years ago :). My father is also doing well, he had no more issues after surgery and chemo.
 
So Vicky isn't Italian any more now she's not discussing the CEO shooter?

Re: scopes - in the UK it's usually 2mg midazolam that's standard for an endoscopy/colonoscopy. Sometimes 25-50mcg fentanyl is also given depending on the patient. Your average little old lady wouldn't get it for example, but a big burly 6'4" 260lb rugby player would. Redheads also metabolise certain drugs faster than your average person so they would generally get a touch of fentanyl too.

It's very interesting how varied the practices in different countries are.
 
The Jewel of the Nile said:
Why would they be “periodically checking her butt”? Which part of her butt—her asscheeks? And for what purpose? I’m no medfag, but that part seems totally fabricated (yes, yes, I know). What’s the point of periodically inspecting someone’s butt?
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No clue but Periodic Butt Inspector is a pretty good title.

Maybe her digestive system is malfunctioning because she is fat and sedentary 🤔
 
The Jewel of the Nile said:
Now back to Vicky. Something struck me while I was in the kitchen today…
Why would they be “periodically checking her butt”? Which part of her butt—her asscheeks? And for what purpose? I’m no medfag, but that part seems totally fabricated (yes, yes, I know). What’s the point of periodically inspecting someone’s butt?

Unless she developed some really nasty pressure ulcers?
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I'm guessing she is 'crying in pain' every time she poops to try and score some good drugs. They've told her that opioids are not indicated for abdominal cramping etc associated with colonoscopy prep so she's pretending that it's her actual butthole that is suffering. They are somewhat obliged to check and make sure something untoward isn't happening so they have a look. Slightly irritated anus.
The next shift comes on. Vicky's crying again. They check again.
Slightly irritated anus.
Rinse and repeat...
 
Jimmy Dean Bowl said:
So Vicky isn't Italian any more now she's not discussing the CEO shooter?

Re: scopes - in the UK it's usually 2mg midazolam that's standard for an endoscopy/colonoscopy. Sometimes 25-50mcg fentanyl is also given depending on the patient. Your average little old lady wouldn't get it for example, but a big burly 6'4" 260lb rugby player would. Redheads also metabolise certain drugs faster than your average person so they would generally get a touch of fentanyl too.

It's very interesting how varied the practices in different countries are.
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That's interesting, as far as I knew fentanyl was typically used to terminal patients having breakthrough pain who are already on crazy doses of morphine
 
The Jewel of the Nile said:
Yeah, probably, but a butt inspection? I can't even begin to imagine how it looks like. Honey, it's 5pm, it's time for your Periodic Butt Inspection?
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If she has had an extended bowel prep, she might well have irritated her anus.

A lot of hospitals are moving toward "2-nurse skin checks" every shift change on patients who are "at risk" depending on a bullshit algorithm. That's 07 and 1900 butt checks as part of handoff. Victoria is enjoying it, at least.
Hospital management is baffling but CMS doesn't help. OK, number one concern is patient satisfaction, fine, that's a choice, let's gear policies toward patient satis--no, we're adding more charting to keep clinical staff away from bedside, more activity restrictions because absolutely nobody can fall ever, and less pain medication because nobody has ever been dissatisfied because they were painful. Make sure to check those boxes that said "nonpharmaceutical methods" but we're not going to actually give you supplies for any of the suggested interventions.

Flamin Park said:
That's interesting, as far as I knew fentanyl was typically used to terminal patients having breakthrough pain who are already on crazy doses of morphine
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Fentanyl gets used in procedure and periop a lot because of its short half-life.
 
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