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DocereAutismus said:
During the DSP interview the KC spent some time righteously felting DSP on his persistent pedoshielding of Derich, a porn obsessed paypig that was caught having playlists of children on his youtube account. DSP constantly held out defense for Derich, ignoring all the evidence relating to him for the sake of superberries. The KC would end up getting DSP to finally banish Derich to the shadowrealm, but unfortunately for the 700lbs ppporker and the stuttering r-r-retard this "victory" will now come back to haunt them. Lets just say they aren't exactly living up to their own standards.
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#lurker said:
A single pedophile in his community was meant to be a reflection on Phil, according to Andy and PPP. Yet multiple paypig pedophiles keep getting exposed in the KC community.

So what is it? You're both frauds that beat your chests until money is on the line, in which case you believe in nothing? Or you actually do support pedophiles and this is a normal part of your community?

There's no way to spin this.
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I'm not that aware of Kino Casino (nor am I that aware of/follow PPP or Andy Warski) but I will play devil's advocate here for a moment and provide a lot of "khantext" about Derish. This stuff wasn't delved into on the KC stream when they mentioned Derish. It is important to provide some more detail and show/prove that Derish is literally lower functioning and more retarded than CWC and that the reason DSP never banned him isn't as simple as it was presented as being on the KC interview where they pressured him to ban him.

To maybe be fair to the DSP situation here - DSP has probably like 5-10 real fans (and that is not an exaggeration). Derish (the person they said he needed to ban/ostracize for his problematic behavior) was a very obvious and persistent person in his chat for years (he would literally tag DSP and send the same message dozens of times until DSP would respond - unlike anyone who would do similar, DSP would never ban him).

I'm saying all of this because DSP was very hyper aware of who Derish was given how small his actual fanbase is, how persistent/known Derish was in his chat and DSP saying "Thanks for stopping by Derich" or "see ya later Derish" almost every stream ended up with it becoming a meme. Derish didn't even contribute ever financially (almost - but I'll get to that later).

Besides all of that, and the "YouTube playlists full of videos of children", Derish also had an autistic obsession/"special interest" about pornography. It is unclear if he even understands sex, but this "special interest" included a fucking rainman-like memory/knowledge of pornography actors, pornography scenes and everything pornography related - to the point he was autistically replying to hundreds of porn actor's tweeters per day and saying how much he enjoyed them in such and such a scene. The manner and scale at which he did it indicates he likely doesn't even understand sex.

Derish's proclivity and porn obsession is how he ended up with his own Kiwifarms thread: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/massive-shoutout-to-derich-ip-koom-and-the-gang.85391 that is several hundred pages long - besides that there is a dedicated tweeter account that used to post updates about him since late 2020: https://twitter.com/DerichWatch

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Yes - there are 2000+ people who follow an account that only posts updates of what Derish has been doing.

And on the topic of "YouTube playlists full of videos of children" while I am not going to defend that sort of thing, it is very important to note that Derish is unironically and literally "special needs". I believe he created those playlists when he was underage himself. He is very clearly a low-functioning autistic and is not smart. One of the theories of why DSP kept him around despite him not khantributing financially is that DSP felt sorry for the kid since he is literally slow in the mind (and yes, DSP will kick people if they aren't khantributors)

The other theory is that because DSP has been given so much flac about joking and saying racist things and everything else that there is a credible argument that he thought it would be a pretty bad look if he kicked a guy who obviously has an IQ of like 25 (and yes, DSP's "detractors" would totally give him shit over something like it). It's somewhat ironic or whatever that DSP's detractors made such a big deal about Derish that other people pressured him to ban Derish in the end - do understand that DSP's detractors ended up with 2 gaming chair sponsorships getting cancelled in a short period of time and included one of them completely shutting down the business:
King of Hateful Slurs said:
Hahahah man that is too fucking funny it really makes me wonder if he does have a goldfish memory or he just knows how dumb his fans are. He shilled cheap Chinese gaming chairs TWICE OPseat and Spawnseat both of which ended their sponsorship within the week. What a fuckin joke this guy is.
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Here are some of Derish's greatest hits and some quotes/anecdotes about him so people can fully comprehend him - I don't think any other degenerate fan who has a parasocial relationship with a livestreamer has been described as being someone who would fail the turing test. This stuff is important for khantext and to show that despite the "playlists of young girls" Derish is probably never going to be capable of living alone or ever getting a real job. He is literally less functional than the most lowest functioning people you've seen on KF.

The ultimate Derish tweet (my personal favorite, and the wording is used as a meme) (link)
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  • Using his mother's credit card without her permission (at the age of 15-16) and getting his YouTube doxed because of it (which resulted in the playlists of young girls being found)
    • "Look at Derich another Phil fan boy who is just turning 16 next week. He is the one who stole his mothers credit card to sub and give to phil, he apologized he couldnt sub and cheer phil now because of it. He told Phil about getting caught by his mom and you think Phil would refund the money knowing it was stolen? Nope all he said was "its okay Derich" and that was it." (link)
    • "The only money Derich has ever given Phil is the one time like 7 years ago he stole his mom's credit card to sub to Phil on Twitch. So Derich once gave Phil $2.50 & Twitch $2.50.Although if you want to get technical there have been several instances where he was spamming the chat and Phil was ignoring him so he posted in chat, "Phil is ignoring me. Can someone tip Phil with my message so he sees it?" and then someone would tip Phil like $1 with Derich's message. I think he would also beg to be gifted a sub or a membership as well which he would usually get. So he gets other people to give Phil money because they think it's funny boosting a retard in Phil's chat." (link)
  • Since a young age, Derish's entire media consumption has literally been Wrassling & DarksydePhil (keep in mind that DSP has been on YouTube for like 15 years and Derish isn't that old)
    • "Derich is a turbo autist and literally will not go to bed until Phil acknowledges that he said goodnight to him." (link)
  • When Derish "became a meme" people would create dozens of accounts appearing to be him. He would argue with them that they weren't him.
    • On one ocassion (a single day) trolls created 38 impostor accounts and were easily able to replicate Derish's very typical and repetitive messages (link)
    • You can see what his messages are like on a normal day and it's impossible to tell the fake ones (link)
    • It is so easy to replicate Derish that there have been multiple ocassions where DSP has accidentally banned the "real" derish.
    • "DSP getting more and more annoyed as the night goes on from being constantly @'d by fake Derichs is great. Asking him what he had for dinner while simultaneously telling him about your chicken stir fry and delicious plum juice will never not be funny." (link)
    • "The unintended consequences of this is no one can tell which is the real Derich, therefore they trolls won't get banned." (link)
  • Derich has a long history of creating new accounts every year or so. The running theory is that he is so retarded that he literally forgets the passwords for his accounts so he just creates new ones:
    • "Based on one of the greatest moments in a Tevin restream ever that starts when DSP says Derich has "lost the ability to log in" to his account, I'm 75% sure Derich somehow forgets the password to each account within a years time and just moves on to a new one. Like a hermit crab or something." link
    • "(remember, when Derich forgets his password, he makes a new account instead and TSM is a League team)" link
  • Derish's reputation for tweeting and retweeting porn scenes is itself a subject of interest
    • "there are literal tweets Derich has made about loving a scene and the porn actress asked him "how he was able to see it when it wasn't even out yet" because Derich was replying to an image/preview of the scene." link
  • Responding to a tweet sharing news that a female pornstar commited suicide via shotgun mentioning their favorite scene the pornstar was in (and tagging the male pornstar who also acted in it): link
  • Theories about why he was never banned:
    • "I think he just got grandfathered into retard protection. His cooming wasn't known for a good chunk of his time following Phil, but it was known he was retarded. Even Phil knew it would be horrible optics if he bullied a retard out of his chat. Phil's also lied before and said he doesn't have any idea about what Derich does outside of the stream. Which I guess might be true, I think he largely tries to ignore Derich until he finally has to say goodnight to him, but Phil has enough people reporting to him that I feel like someone must have said something about it. But maybe it's one of the few lies he remembers and wants to actively stick to for whatever reason. Or he's still just afraid of bad PR for banning a retard, even a porn addicted one." (link)
    • "It might just be that Derich is one of the only people who is genuinely friendly and nice to him. Derich has been a fan for so long and probably has some of the most interactions with Phil of anyone. And even if Derich annoys him sometimes with the spam, DSP will never have to worry about Derich trolling him or asking him bait questions so he probably is grateful to have at least one person who he can talk to safely on stream." (link)
  • Theories about Derish's tweets and his level of intelligence (these lead at least some credence to the "creepy playlists of young girls" being something he literally doesn't even understand, he seemingly doesn't even understand sex at all in the first place)
    • "There's no reason to assume any of Derich's actual interests can be gleaned from any of his tweets, aside from the general topic they're about, i.e. porn, video games, and wrestling. He is desperate to be acknowledged, however fake and inconsequential. He's so... special... his brain is devolving itself like Opposite AI. Instead of programs improving to the point of being indistinguishable from humans, Derich's speech patterns have degenerated to the point of of rephrasing the exact message he's replying to, or on a good day accessing his memory banks for a broad comment X based on original tweet sentence Y like literal AIM chat bots. I unironically believe Derichs tweets would fail the Turing test. This is all astonishing to witness." (link)
    • "anonymouse said he had a stream with Derich, Derich would ask him a hypothetical question about wrestling , anony would respond and Derich replied exactly what anony said and stayed silent until anony talked again. Apparently Derich is too retarded to even have a conversation." (link)
    • "I bet the reason Derich doesn't become a member is because his parents have restricted him from having access to spending money online. Even they must realize that if their 50 IQ son had a credit card he would immediately do something like buy 50 DS's in every color." (link)
    • "Derich is one of the few unironic fans he has and he's too dim-witted and slow to even pretend to be a troll. Derich is every bit as retarded as he appears on stream chat where he asks Phil the same question 13 times in a row and I think Phil finds some comfort in that retardation." (link)
edit to add, in late 2017, around the time Derish first became known someone said the explanation for the "cute girls" playlist was that he wanted a brother or sister:
  • "Hey he only had those playlists because he wanted a brother or sister...which was his actual explanation...and is similar to JRoss's excuse of wanting to have kids...but the playlists were exclusivly "cute little girls"...and Bsv didn't think anything was weird about it...ok now that I type it out it doesn't look good." (link)

Now - from what I can see Kino Casino streams have a much larger fanbase. They probably have at least several thousand "real" fans. DSP has like 10. Derish was just very particular and notable enough and weird enough that he "became a meme" and had a dedicated tweeter account following his antics that had 2000+ followers and a KF thread with 184 pages as well as 600k views.
Derish was also notably low-functioning and literally retarded enough that his weird/deviant behavior, as abhorent as it may be, was actually something some people could excuse or ignore - because the guy doesn't understand anything.

Now are these particular fans of KC being mentioned degenerates? It appears so, but I honestly don't see how it is feasible for them to keep track of the degeneracy of their fans/paypigs given their scale. DSP was only confronted about one very particular and very notable degenerate fan of his but when you have thousands and thousands of "real" actual fans, then its a lot harder to push that on a creator as being their problem.


Also lol bonus link of when Black DSP (Lowtiergod) got banned from tweeter immediately after interacting with White DSP (Darksydephil): https://kiwifarms.st/threads/darksydephil-theycallmedsp-phil-burnell.975/post-3428581 Kino Casino really should've been aware of the DSP curse. Bad idea to make fun of fhet khet hahahaha
 
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I'm not a big fan of guilt by association, but having so many freaks around you ain't gonna end up well.
So, I'm just gonna be a fence sitting faggot on this one and watch how it plays out.
Someone will suffer guaranteed, and I will laugh at it, guaranteed.
 
Estate said:
I'm not a big fan of guilt by association, but having so many freaks around you ain't gonna end up well.
So, I'm just gonna be a fence sitting faggot on this one and watch how it plays out.
Someone will suffer guaranteed, and I will laugh at it, guaranteed.
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I respect that. To me personally though i take a stance i condemn them for it. The reason is mostly what they did with Derich. I am judging by their own standards and the yardstick they use to measure others by. And even if we set that aside they are going to orgies with these people. There is a sexual connection with them which is unprecedented, DSP didn't go to an orgy with Derich that Derich paid, this is a WAY WAY WORSE situation. They had multiple meetups and we just learned about one in random. And if the one willing to speak out reveals an orgy with nigger trannies... I DARE NOT FUCKING DREAM WHAT HAPPENED IN THE OTHERS.
 
GhaeicSD said:
A counterpoint to any defense of the paypigs; everyone who watches KC should yearn for Total Paypig Death, even moreso than the a-logs. KC has only streamed once in almost 2 weeks because these faggots give them so much money that they can afford to spend more time not working than doing their fucking job. Slaughter the paypigs and I can guarantee that we'll start seeing a more consistent schedule with better content within a day. Fuck these two for depriving us of Kino when it suits them. THE CABIN MUST CALL. SUFFAH LAZIES.
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It’s literally the same dynamic Ralph has with his “audience”/paypigs whenever he sets and meets an “extended show goal”.

“THREE HUNNID DOLLURS AN ILL DO AN EXTINDID SHOW, YOU BROKE ASS BISHMADE FAGGOTS!”

“We hit the extended show goal? uhhh ahhdunno ah’m kinduh tired…alright I’ll see you guys later”

Only with KC spread it out over a longer time period. They get a couple whales chucking big donos/subs at them, then they just take a few days off or even a week off between shows. I know PPP is so deep into the grift that he can’t help but say everything tongue in cheek/“gild the lily”, but he just excuses stuff like that as “hahahahahaha THE GRIFT IS THE SHOW, BUD-DY!”. Especially if you bring up him and Warski constantly saying “aw we’re so consistent, consistency is key” or their big promise around the beginning of the year/when they moved that “we prawmise ‘ta be more consistent therrrrrrrrreee ladies an’ gunnlemennnnn”. Any of those things can just be dismissed off hand by PPP saying “hee hee the grift is part of the show”. It’s a big part of why unless they’re doing something big when live, I don’t want to watch it live. I’d rather wait for the clip channel upload. And even when they upload something interesting on the clip channel, their un(der)paid Irish editor will still leave in plenty of “METOKUR MASSACHIST FER 69 SUUUUUUUUBBBBBBSSSS” callouts that I still have to fast forward through.

tl;dr: anytime you point out the inconsistency of their show schedule it’ll just get dismissed with a meme.
 
I agree, the problem is mainly that they've set the rules as "your paypigs can't publicly be gross coomers/lolicons or that is a reflection on you" and then just blatantly broke the rule in like zero time. What makes it even worse is PPP's public statements that heads were gonna roll and he was going to clean up the casino, but really they're just making a half-hearted effort to sweep up the casino.

PPP needs to publicly struggle session Andy while he still has room to blame everything on him and his need for a discord hugbox. He could probably keep most of the viewers if he snaked first while he can still make this out as something he did because of Andy and that by the time he saw how it was gonna be it was too late. The longer he participates in the sweep the more credibility he loses.
 
MilkSports_2018 said:
@Balldo's Gate worthless coward tard, disabled replies because it is incapable of defending its repeated lies
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Wait, I thought you were this big oldfag?

How do you not know know how the reply function works when it comes to long posts?

Oh, and one of your replies lost in the rollback was saying that doxed has two xs, when anybody who has been on Kiwifarms for a while knows that it's one x on Kiwifarms. Search "doxed has one x."

Go back to Warski's Discord, dummy. Stop shitting up the thread, please.
 
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All becomes gunt said:
Here is some common themes i keep seeing each time we deep dive into one of these.
-There is an obsession with Janitor James Metokur, Saint Patron of Canceraids.
-Lolicon, Shotacon, Furry, Brony, SOME KIND OF EXTREME PERVERSION
-They are paypigs and extreme simps to the point of their e-daddies can do no wrong
-Some kind of weird dysgenic breed
-Parasocial interaction that they try to fulfill by any means necessary
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And then people question why the NWO would want to deliberately cultivate such a race of being. This abomination is a sick portent of what they want to turn every future generation into. This is their plan, people. This is the Last Man.
 
I'm gone for a whole week and we're still on this paypig drama and proving what we already know: anyone paying for friends is probably a loser who masturbates all day, Ashton loves dark meat, Andy is a retarded degenerate. Can we move on now? Does anyone really care if a literally who paypig in a discord server is a pedophile? Any large show is bound to have some pedophiles sadly, especially the Sektur and it's adjacentcy to whatever this weird Nazi pedo shit even is.
 
779777 said:
I'm gone for a whole week and we're still on this paypig drama and proving what we already know: anyone paying for friends is probably a loser who masturbates all day, Ashton loves dark meat, Andy is a retarded degenerate. Can we move on now? Does anyone really care if a literally who paypig in a discord server is a pedophile? Any large show is bound to have some pedophiles sadly, especially the Sektur and it's adjacentcy to whatever this weird Nazi pedo shit even is.
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>Can we move on now post no.2020586583
>Oct 5, 2024
Idk man you guys come out of a cloning facility.
 
There is no moving on from this. While I would agree most shows do have degens and pedos donating to them there is a huge difference here. These guys went on a vegas trip with said pedo on his dime participing in all sorts of depraved acts.

They continue to shield, sweep and run protection for him. Even if you are a superfan it's time to take a step back and look at whats going on here.
 
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