Culture People opt out of organ donation programs after reports of a man mistakenly declared dead - Organ donation is based on public trust,” said Dorrie Dils, president of the Association of Organ Procurement Organizations, or OPOs. When eroded, “it takes years to regain.”

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The organ donor entry on the back of a driver license is photographed in New York on Friday, Oct. 25, 2024. (AP Photo/Patrick Sison)

Transplant experts are seeing a spike in people revoking organ donor registrations, their confidence shaken by reports that organs were nearly retrieved from a Kentucky man mistakenly declared dead.

It happened in 2021 and while details are murky surgery was avoided and the man is still alive. But donor registries in the U.S. and even across the Atlantic are being impacted after the case was publicized recently. A drop in donations could cost the lives of people awaiting a transplant.

“Organ donation is based on public trust,” said Dorrie Dils, president of the Association of Organ Procurement Organizations, or OPOs. When eroded, “it takes years to regain.”

Only doctors caring for patients can determine if they’re dead -- the law blocks anyone involved with organ donation or transplant. The allegations raise questions about how doctors make that determination and what’s supposed to happen if anyone sees a reason for doubt.

Key is ensuring “all doctors are doing the right tests and doing them well,” said Dr. Daniel Sulmasy, a Georgetown University bioethicist.

An alleged near miss in Kentucky​

The 2021 case first came to light in a congressional hearing last month, with unconfirmed details in later media reports – allegations that a man who’d been declared dead days earlier woke up on the way to the operating room for organ-donation surgery and that there was initial reluctance to realize it.

The federal agency that regulates the U.S. transplant system is investigating, and the Kentucky attorney general’s office said it is “reviewing the facts to identify an appropriate response.” A coalition of OPOs and other donation groups is urging that findings be made public quickly and the public withhold judgment until then, saying any deviation from the industry’s strict standards would be “entirely unacceptable.”

The number of people opting out of organ donation has spiked​

Donate Life America found an average of 170 people a day removed themselves from the national donor registry in the week following media coverage of the allegations – 10 times more than the same week in 2023. That doesn’t include emailed removal requests or state registries, another way people can volunteer to become a donor when they eventually die.

Dils’ own organ agency, Gift of Life Michigan, usually gets five to 10 calls a week from people asking how to remove themselves from that state’s list. In the last week, her staff handled 57 such calls, many mentioning the Kentucky case.

The Kentucky allegations reverberated in France​

Unlike the voluntary U.S. donation system, French law presumes all citizens and residents will be organ and tissue donors upon death unless they clearly opt out.

After the reports from Kentucky reached France, the number joining that nation’s donation refusal registry jumped from about 100 people a day to 1,000 a day in the past week, according to the French Biomedicine Agency.

Dr. Régis Bronchard, an agency deputy director, said the spike “reflects anxiety, incomprehension among the general public” that could have “catastrophic consequences.”

What’s supposed to happen after death and before organ donation​

Doctors can declare two types of death. What’s called cardiac death occurs when the heart stops beating and breathing stops, and they can’t be restored.

Brain death is declared when the entire brain permanently ceases functioning, usually after a major traumatic injury or stroke. Ventilators and other machines keep the heart beating during special testing to tell.

Only about 1% of deaths occur in a way that allows someone to become an organ donor – most people declared dead in a hospital will quickly be transferred to a funeral home or morgue.

But most organ donations are from brain-dead donors. Only after that declaration does the donor agency assume responsibility for the deceased, looking for potential recipients and scheduling retrieval surgery — while typically nurses at the hospital where the person died continue care to ensure equipment properly maintains their organs until they’re collected.

What if something goes wrong?​

The donor agency and transplant surgeons arriving to retrieve organs must check records of how death was determined. Anyone – donor hospital employees, donor agency staff or surgeons – who sees anything concerning is supposed to speak up immediately.

“This is extremely rare,” Dr. Ginny Bumgardner, an Ohio State University transplant surgeon who also leads the American Society of Transplant Surgeons, said of the Kentucky case.

In operating rooms “the whole process stops” if someone sees a hint of trouble, and independent doctors are called to doublecheck the person really is dead, Bumgardner said. In her 30-year career, “I’ve never had a case where the original declaration was wrong.”

Georgetown’s Sulmasy agreed problems are infrequent. But he said there’s wide variation in what tests different hospitals perform to determine if someone’s brain-dead, whether they’re a potential organ donor or not. Doctors are debating whether to add additional test requirements.

Stricter criteria could “assure the public that we have done enormous due diligence before we determine that somebody’s dead,” he said. It could help “to get people to stop ripping up their organ donor cards.”
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John Leicester, the AP’s chief correspondent in Paris, contributed to this report.

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I removed myself after they started denying, and still do, transplants to people that didn't take the fake "vaccine." I don't want to save the life of someone that wanted me dead/in a concentration camp and the hospital/organizations to make money off it.
Same. I also stopped donating blood and was asked why I haven't donated in a while in 2022 since 2019 after I had been a regular donor. I said I didn't feel comfortable knowing I'd be denied a blood transplant because I'm unvacinated. They tried telling me that there was always way around it but I said I didn't care and regretted donating in the past
 
I revoked my donor registration - coincidentally this week because my license was about to expire - not because of this specific case, but because I don’t want my female organs transplanted into a tranny.

They are the last group I'd want my organs going to!

I also revoked due to niggers and trannies. This article is cope.
 
I revoked my donor registration - coincidentally this week because my license was about to expire - not because of this specific case, but because I don’t want my female organs transplanted into a tranny.
Obligatory:
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My new vaginal canal is going to be partly made of Alloderm, which is made of sterilized tissue from human cadaver skin which is so fucking cool and cyberpunk???
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When I'm having awesome sex with my cyberpunk pussy I'll try to remember that TERFs has terrible taste I guess lol
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I wonder how many people opted out of organ donation programs solely because of Kevin "Amhole" Gibes? :lol:

(He has also drooled at the thought of uterus transplants for troons multiple times in the past.)
 
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The Pavesi case is a significant medical ethics and justice case in Brazil. It revolves around the death of 10-year-old Paulo Pavesi in 2000 in the city of Poços de Caldas, Minas Gerais, under circumstances that raised questions about the practices within the organ transplant system.

Paulo was hospitalized after an accident, and doctors declared him brain-dead shortly afterward. His organs were subsequently harvested for transplants. However, investigations later revealed several inconsistencies, including suspicions that Paulo was not brain-dead at the time of the organ removal. The case pointed to potential illegalities in Brazil’s organ transplant practices, particularly regarding possible abuses and the manipulation of medical procedures for profit.

The case gained media attention due to the efforts of Paulo’s father, Paulo Pavesi, who argued that his son was deliberately kept in a compromised state for organ harvesting. His advocacy led to a larger investigation uncovering an organ trafficking scheme involving various medical professionals and public officials. Multiple individuals were arrested and charged over time, with the case exposing systemic corruption and ethical violations within the healthcare and justice systems.

The Pavesi case continues to serve as a crucial example in discussions about organ transplantation ethics and regulatory oversight in Brazil.
Paulo Pavesi, Paulo Pavesi Jr.'s father, became a prominent figure in exposing alleged corruption and malpractice in Brazil's organ transplant system. After his son’s death, he relentlessly pursued justice, insisting that medical professionals involved had not followed proper protocols and manipulated his son’s diagnosis to facilitate organ harvesting. Pavesi’s accusations led to a high-profile investigation and brought significant public attention to organ trafficking issues in Brazil.

However, his pursuit of justice was fraught with challenges. Pavesi faced harassment, threats, and legal pressures, as his efforts uncovered a network of influential people involved in the scheme. Due to the intense backlash and security concerns, Pavesi eventually sought asylum in Italy, where he continued to campaign for stricter regulations and oversight in organ transplantation ethics. His efforts were instrumental in initiating reforms in Brazil, although he had to leave the country for his safety.

Despite being far from Brazil, Paulo Pavesi remains a significant advocate for transparency and reform in medical practices and justice for his son. The Pavesi case continues to be a touchstone in Brazil’s legal and medical fields, sparking discussions on ethics, accountability, and the need for systemic reforms to prevent similar cases in the future.
This dude got life threats after he discovered the same dude who harvested his kid's organs were the ones responsible for his assesment, they also gave him sedatives to make him look brain dead before they harvested his organs, and he fucking signed on the organ transplant, he had to flee to Italy and he lost his entire family through exile.
Nevertheless, he only looked after it, when the doctors tried to jew him out of 10.000 dollars in health costs, which is forbidden for organ donors.

What is funny is how the case is basically dismissed as fake news or it's shushed because "it might deter potential organ donors", placing the fucking guilt on the victims of organ harvesting instead of the health system(The UN keeps praising our organ donation system as world leader, lmao), same shit with vaccine reactions.

Just like this thread.

Another interesting fact is the life expectancy of a organ receiver:

The life expectancy for organ transplant recipients varies by organ type and individual health factors. On average:

  • Kidney transplant recipients may live 10-15 years or more, depending on age and donor type (living or deceased).
  • Liver transplants typically offer 10-20 years or longer with proper care.
  • Heart transplant recipients live about 10 years on average, though some exceed 20 years.
  • Lung transplants have a shorter expectancy, averaging 5-7 years
You basically have to take drugs in order to have AIDS your entire lifespan because your body will try the utmost to reject it.

You have to really naive in order to accept being a organ donor, i just hope whatever clinic your mangled body from a car crash or from when you slip up in your bathtub has run out of Versed when they treat your ass so that they can't falsify a brain death report in order to make you into a living cash cow:
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ACTION: Destroy trust and respect in the medical field during covid.
RESULT: People bail on organ donation.
ACTION: Steal organs to make up the shortfall.
RESULT: More people bail on organ donation.
ACTION: Fail to recognize a loop, ramp up the murder-for-parts until even jaded hospital staff need therapy.
RESULT: Even more people bail on organ donation.

LESSONS LEARNED: None. Working in the medical field means you know everything already, obviously.
 
I revoked my donor status during COVID, guess why.
I wonder how many of those revoked statuses will actually be honored and not just ignored, with staff claiming 'woops, well the info we have on file said the patient was a donor. I guess someone fucked up and didn't send the hospital the updated paperwork'
 
I wonder how many of those revoked statuses will actually be honored and not just ignored, with staff claiming 'woops, well the info we have on file said the patient was a donor. I guess someone fucked up and didn't send the hospital the updated paperwork'
Anyone who doesn't have a immediate family to show up and advocate for them. I would recommend to talk with your siblings, parents and partner whichever is most conspiracy minded to put them on the contact form in case shit happens.

If you can afford it get a lawyer shark to enforce your living will
 
With everything in life and death, there is a risk. I'll stay on the list and hope that if they find anything useful, it helps improve the quality of life for at least one other person. Death doesn't scare me.
 
Whilst all this is crazy / shocking why is no one talking about the fact the guy was still ALIVE! This is some messed up shit and he was ‘lucky’ he woke up enroute to the operating theatre. Guy could’ve woke up inside a coffin or crematorium.

I’ve always wanted to go peacefully in my sleep but stories like this make me wish for a decapitation or mangled wreck. At least that way I’d be sure to be dead.

Scary stuff, Happy Halloween Kiwi frens!
 
What is funny is how the case is basically dismissed as fake news or it's shushed because "it might deter potential organ donors", placing the fucking guilt on the victims of organ harvesting instead of the health system(The UN keeps praising our organ donation system as world leader, lmao), same shit with vaccine reactions.
Not here on Brazil, it ain't. Even with the nullified sentence by the Regional Court, they were sentenced again.

Two doctors were condemned to 25y10m of prison back in 2021, and back in may 2023 one of the doctors that were on the run got captured (link in portuguese).
 
I wonder how many people opted out of organ donation programs solely because of Kevin "Amhole" Gibes?
That guy did make me opt out, but this scandal has made me double-check to make sure nothing silly happened on the various registries that could've led to them not getting the memo re: my status.
 
What happened to a neighbor made me always double check when I renew my license that I am not a donor. Their son got injured pretty severely in a car accident, hit by a drunk driver, and the doctor could have saved him, but he had a patient with the same blood type that needed a liver. The family sued, settled with the hospital for a ridiculous sum of $ and an NDA and the doctor got a murder charge. It happens more frequently than people think.
 
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