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Baraka Obama said:
Not going to weep for this, it all came too early and the existence of Switch emulators always seemed like a threat to the legal grey area this kind of software has sit and a threat to very good legacy system emulators.
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I don't see how this eliminates that threat to other emulators now that the methods for purging them by force has been made clear to every company and copyright holder who feels like doing it.
 
TheDarknessGrows said:
Would you please expand upon this point? I have never heard this specific complaint and am very interested in learning more.
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https://gamingshift.com/how-long-do-switch-cartridges-last/#:~:text=This will vary from one game to another,,under normal conditions if you store them properly.

How long do Switch cartridges last? This will vary from one game to another, based on the frequency with which you use the cartridge and the conditions in which you store it. Generally speaking, Switch cartridges should last 10 years under normal conditions if you store them properly.
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Now, this sounds like a long time, and some other articles say it's 20 years, but they aren't as durable as Sega Genesis cartridges (as an example I know well).

My Sega Genesis cartridges are mostly around their 30s, and they mostly still work (Phelios stopped working for some reason, and Shadowrun has a bad battery. Most of them have no problems, even the weird Electronic Arts cartridges.). I just used one of these to back them up https://www.tindie.com/products/xdeath/usb-megadrive-genesis-cartridge-readerwriter/#:~:text=MD Dumper is an USB cart

The other system I worked on backing up my cartridges for is the GameBoy Advance, even though Gameboy family cartridges are also very durable. I used this masterpiece to do that: https://www.epilogue.co/ I can't really sing the praises of the Epilogue GameBoy Operator enough. If you have a large cartridge collection it's great.

I'm old enough now that I wonder why I care that things are going to stop working 20 years from now, but I still play my old NES, SNES, Genesis, GBA, and DS games today and some of them are quite old.
moocow said:
I don't see how this eliminates that threat to other emulators now that the methods for purging them by force has been made clear to every company and copyright holder who feels like doing it.
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The specific method Nintendo is using probably won't work on older systems due to the way copy protection works on them. Sony managed to use their lawyers to kill Bleem! back in the day, but long term Sony PS1 emulation seems fairly entrenched. Clean room emulation has legal precedent, but what Nintendo is using is the DMCA which basically makes it illegal to get around encryption. It's why when you install your GPL DVD ripper you have to download that DeCSS decryption file off of some server in France.
 
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Baraka Obama said:
Not going to weep for this, it all came too early and the existence of Switch emulators always seemed like a threat to the legal grey area this kind of software has sit and a threat to very good legacy system emulators.
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The whole emulation is only okay if the system is no longer being produced argument falls on its face when you know all your favorite emulators were being worked on back when the systems were being actively sold, and when companies tried suing them, they lost.
 

Sudachi seems mildly promising. Apparently the github is currently down as he does a partial rewrite, presumably to remove the copyrighted bits. The dev doesn't seem like a massive faggot, either, from a brief look over his reddit history.

Edit: Oh, never mind. Looks like it's android-only. For some reason.
 
SmallKiwi said:
So basically Switch emulation is dead now. Ryujinx was the last one, even if the optimization was terrible. So now what? Will it only catch on after the Switch is discontinued?
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Quite bluntly the community is gonna have to relearn OPSEC and pick up again. We've gotten too comfy using Patreon and Github and Facebook over the past 15 years.

Communicate with Tor, pay with crypto and stay the fuck off any centralized service for development.
 
404unf said:
The whole emulation is only okay if the system is no longer being produced argument falls on its face when you know all your favorite emulators were being worked on back when the systems were being actively sold, and when companies tried suing them, they lost.
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Not to mention, Nintendo is still technically selling older games on the Switch. Are people forgetting the Nintendo Switch Online and it's legacy games?
 
Banana Hammock said:
but then I realized that it's not necessarily a crime if you're using dumps of your own games.
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Unfortunately, everyone knows it isn’t there own backups, YouTubers are not that smart.

Although it’s less likely them using the emulator and more likely advertising it exsists.

Same as what got Kotaku iirc in the shit.
 
404unf said:
The whole emulation is only okay if the system is no longer being produced argument falls on its face when you know all your favorite emulators were being worked on back when the systems were being actively sold, and when companies tried suing them, they lost.
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SmallKiwi said:
Not to mention, Nintendo is still technically selling older games on the Switch. Are people forgetting the Nintendo Switch Online and it's legacy games?
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Older systems have always gotten less attention. Even back when Nintendo was selling NES roms on GBA carts.

But what happens if a court opinion comes in making it difficult for talented developers to work on these things anymore? There is precious little case law, and it's not been worth going after bedroom coders making something to run 10+ year old games. Do you want that to change?
 
404unf said:
The whole emulation is only okay if the system is no longer being produced argument falls on its face when you know all your favorite emulators were being worked on back when the systems were being actively sold, and when companies tried suing them, they lost.
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Very true. I remember downloading the latest GBA games from emuparadise back in the day.
 
So since this thread is back to 'fuck nintendo' mode, is there a good resource for playing pirated games using that new MIG Switch cartridge that came out?
 
Dr. Geronimo said:
So since this thread is back to 'fuck nintendo' mode, is there a good resource for playing pirated games using that new MIG Switch cartridge that came out?
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A modded switch? One of the emulators? I'm not sure exactly what you mean by this.
 
Banana Hammock said:

Looks like Nintendo is going after emulation youtubers now. I was going to say that it's pretty retarded to post videos of yourself committing crimes to hundreds of thousands of people, but then I realized that it's not necessarily a crime if you're using dumps of your own games.
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Nintendo sure has gotten litigious recently. First Palworld, then emulators then people even talking about emulation.
I wonder what caused this.
 
Fagnacious D said:
Nintendo sure has gotten litigious recently. First Palworld, then emulators then people even talking about emulation.
I wonder what caused this.
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Well it can't be the Switch sales, that's for sure. It's their most sold console to date. If this was the Wii U era, I would understand a bit more.
 
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