Opinion The Green Party Switch - Germany: A turning point for the Green Party, possible change of direction for the future. Reality might have set in and won against woke delusions.

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Back once again with another translation by yours truly for the A&N audience. You might've read the recent stepping down of the Green Party leadership, followed by the implosion of their even more radically left-wing youth organization. This is a follow-up and possible look into the future. Source [A]

The Green Party switch​


Another article on a switch maneuver.

Or: Why Lang, Nouripour [the two chairpersons of the Green Party on the national level] and the Grüne Jugend [Green Party junior organization] had to make a quick exit.

The WELT: "I can no longer ignore my daughter's experiences" - Özdemir Demands New Direction in Immigration [Cem Özdemir is one of the most well-known Green Party politicians and also current Minister of Agriculture]

In a guest contribution at the FAZ, Cem Özdemir (Green Party) reports that his daughter is being sexually harassed by young immigrant men in Berlin. Her female friend, on the other hand, allegedly is a victim of racist attacks. The Minister of Agriculture demands a change in immigration policy.

Ah, yes.

If the East Germans complain about immigration, they're all shameful Nazis and fascists. But if your own daughter complains about getting harassed in Berlin, you need to act immediately.

Hilarious: Özdemir's daughter complains about young immigrant men. But this is a very frequently observed phenomenon, that first generation immigrants are the ones who complain the most about today's immigration. This seems to be the original article in the FAZ: Language, Work, and Adherence to the Law

A few years ago, my daughter, together with a female friend, spent a few days at a campsite in Mecklenburg [North East Germany] at the Baltic Sea. Her friend, same age, has got a father who's from Tanzania; you can tell by the color of her skin that she's not a descendant of bright-red-haired Vikings.

It's only been a short holiday trip. After 24 hours, the group from Berlin escaped because nasty stares were followed by vilification and insults; racist swears that I don't want to repeat in writing here. The perpetrators were especially youths, even kids, who, as a group, were so hurtful to her. My daughter doesn't want to drive back to the Baltic Sea anytime soon.

In Berlin, however, she's facing completely different struggles as a young woman. When she's out and about in the city, it happens frequently that she or her female friends get uncomfortably stared at or sexualized by immigrant men. And, yes, the retort that the risk of sexual harassment is allegedly much higher in partnerships and within the family is just as correct as the one that it's everywhere, and not just the Baltic Sea, that you can get racist insults. But statistics won't do as a retort for lived experience. Lectures won't win against experience. There is no reason to put up with this molestation, neither at the Baltic Sea nor in Berlin.

Against such offenses, she, like many women, built up the proverbial thick skin. But I can tell how it's bothering her. And how disappointed she is that the reason won't get talked about more directly: the patriarchal structures and the role of women in many Islamic countries. [highlighted by the author of the opinion piece, not in the source itself]

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We used to have such exclusion clauses - and they greatly harmed the emancipatory movement in the Federal Republic of Germany. I'm talking about the discussions among the political left wing about human rights in the GDR, the older readers will probably remember. For the younger ones: In the 70s or 80s, if you as a left-winger complained about the authoritarian situation in East Germany, if you demanded freedom of speech and freedom of travel, you very likely got hit by the following sentence: "You mustn't say that, this is useful for the right wingers!"

I can't ignore the experiences of my daughter. As a father, I don't want to, as a politician, I mustn't. If we want to provide a response to what she experiences and what drives her in her daily life, we must first and foremost do one thing: real talk. See and name reality. And admit that we've made ourselves way too comfortable in the echo chamber of our own self-assurance - left wing as well as right wing.

Now you can read a lot of things from this, because there are many things in there.

What's in there is that the Green fetish for immigration has already taken on a life on its own and no longer rests on the matter itself, but solely on the fight "against the right". So they already are obliged to be in favor of immigration because admitting that it's become unstoppable is "useful for the right wingers".

But now, a turning point seems to have been reached.

Not only that the voters - especially badly: the young ones - are running away from them and that they're dying on a hill which isn't even their own hill, but a hill which was brought into the party by leftist orcs. But also because the realization is settling in that immigrants are worse than "the right wingers". The narrative isn't working any longer.

And, in principle, Özdemir only speaks of himself and his daughter as a token. It's a metaphor for the Green Party and the youth. They allegedly wanted to protect her from right wingers, but, in doing so, didn't notice that immigration is a much bigger burden and danger for the youth than "the right wingers" - and that is why the youth is voting right and not green.

Özdemir says that, as a politician, he needs to listen to his daughter. In reality, he means that the Greens need to listen to the youth.

And in doing so, he makes a statement and initiated a change of direction for the Green Party in the media: away from unconditional and unlimited immigration. It looks like they're not safe in Baden-Wuerttemberg either. [BW is one of the largest states of Germany, and the one in which the Green Party had the most electoral success in the past 20 years]

And that should be a main reason why Lang and Nouripour had to leave, and pretty sure also why the Grüne Jugend has left - in part they even said that they're leaving because of the changes in immigration polics.

Apparently, the Green Party are making a big change of direction which seems to be footed on three causes,
  • Uncontrollable immigration in the green state Baden-Wuerttemberg
  • Exodus of young voters
  • Compatibility with the CDU
and thus, the ones who were in the way had to go.

It looks a lot like a big internal dispute between the left-wing caucus and the realist caucus.

But something else seems to play a role as well: Winfried Kretschmann is 76 years old and steps down for the next election. [minister-president of BW for 13 years now, one of the most well known Green politicians] The realist caucus wants the successor to be Özdemir, the left-wingers want Lang instead (which doesn't even work because, in Baden-Wuerttemberg, for the post of minister-president there is a minimum age and not a minimum weight, but Thuringia has just shown us how quickly such details can be changed when necessary). So it looks like Özdemir has entered election campaigning mode and is now trying to not repeat the Greens' mistakes in Thuringia, Brandenburg, and Saxony, or else the Greens are even in danger of ceasing to be in the position of strongest party in Baden-Wuerttemberg.

It seems as if the election results have internally boldened the realists and helped them change course against the left wingers.
 
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Cc @Null because I know you're interested in this. Looks like the parliamentary system genuinely does make it likelier for parties to cease their retardation, as opposed to a two-party system.
 
But also because the realization is settling in that immigrants are worse than "the right wingers". The narrative isn't working any longer.
If German women actually acknowledge this it puts them light years ahead of the average white female where I live in the USA. (A very blue state.) Or maybe the problem is just that much worse in Europe that it is now unavoidable?
 
Or maybe the problem is just that much worse in Europe that it is now unavoidable?
I haven't heard of (sane) white women in the USA completely removing themselves from public life and not going out because of a reasonable fear of immigrant violence - this has been the case in Germany for at least 3 years now. You scarcely see white people going out.
 
how do you find the emotional energy to hate your own women so violently so continuously
Eh? My hate cup runneth over, everywhere and in all directions, thank you very much. Not just directed at huwite wamen. Made peace with that element of my personality years ago, to the point I've limited it to ineffectually and pseudonymously bitching about the world on the Internet. As things slide slowly and inevitably toward some sort of Spenglerian or Toynbean catastrophe.

But in this instance I don't think your comment is quite fair. All I'm doing is simply noting observed behavior, and believe I am doing so correctly. The house across the street from me flies a tranny flag. The house around the corner has one of those dumb textbomb signs about "no humans are illegal," about a year ago I started getting the occasional email from female clients and colleagues with "she/her" in the signature section and that has slowly started ramping up. And on and on. 🤷‍♂️
 
All those things are the symbols of the conquerors. The west coast jeets and chinese do it too. These things are all predominately pushed by White and Jewish men. To apply it specifically to white women is your deliberate choice.
 
All those things are the symbols of the conquerors. The west coast jeets and chinese do it too. These things are all predominately pushed by White and Jewish men. To apply it specifically to white women is your deliberate choice.
that's just not true
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in the west, anything related to 'tolerance' 'openness' 'diversity' etc is most enthusiastically supported and pushed by (young) white women, almost anyone here who interacts with significant amounts of them IRL should be able to confirm this from personal experience too
 
Green parties worldwide have always been useless and cult-like.

At least in the 90's when they really started to become popular? They were cloy and insultingly simple underneath.

They can go back to that anytime they want.

It'll be a welcome change from the unhinged activists they all turned into in the mid 00's when they realized luxury automated space communism wasn't coming in their lifetimes after all. And all the retarded shit they did to "make" it happen anyway... like infinite gibs.
 
that's just not true
The forum's Chief Race Traitor and BBC enjoyer has arrived to hate on his own women again. He has posted charts that do not factor in race. I will once again point at the charts.

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The majority of white women in the United States vote republican, and only marginally fewer of them vote democratic than white men.

This discrepancy is almost entirely due to the issue of abortion, and not immigration or homosexuality.

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This can all be found very, very easily.

Women have concerns about abortion men do not have. A man is able to leave his family at any given moment without any consequence besides having to pay child support, which a particularly vindictive man can completely opt-out of by simply refusing to have gainful employment.

Abortion laws in red states and blue states are also incredibly retarded and harmful. Red states will force a woman to carry a rape baby to full term, and will force a woman to carry a non-viable fetus that will be 100% guaranteed to die after being born to full term. Blue states don't see fetuses as anything but parasitic human tissue, and thus the remains of the baby is classified as biological waste matter and is seized by the State after the abortion and used to whatever purpose the State chooses.

That is why it stands to reason that white women vote more liberally, because they are ultimately the ones that have serious choices to make about babies being born and the consequences of those pregnancies most men have zero understanding of and quite frankly don't even give enough of a shit to figure out.


But you are a BBC broken Jewish mind slave that hates his own women. You are a conquered, humiliated male. You should kill yourself.
 
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in the west, anything related to 'tolerance' 'openness' 'diversity' etc is most enthusiastically supported and pushed by (young) white women, almost anyone here who interacts with significant amounts of them IRL should be able to confirm this from personal experience too

If young liberal White women had power (whether directly or indirectly), I think they would push the red button to shut down this website (kiwifarms). That's reason enough to hate them. They are literally an existential threat to this forum.
 
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But you are a BBC broken Jewish mind slave that hates his own women. You are a conquered, humiliated male. You should kill yourself.
Not German and don't really have a pony in this, but are you sure? You seem to be applying US voter logic to European (and specifically) German politics. Which I don't entirely think they match. Germany is a very buckbroken nation. Not saying you're wrong, just saying that I don't immediately believe that US voting sentiments apply here.
 
If young liberal White women had power (whether directly or indirectly), I think they would push the red button to shut down this website (kiwifarms). That's reason enough to hate them. They are literally an existential threat to this forum.
yes that's why women are half the site, retard.

it's always the same handful of total fucking losers who show up to these parties to cry about whites. I should just get rid of them.
 
But something else seems to play a role as well: Winfried Kretschmann is 76 years old and steps down for the next election. [minister-president of BW for 13 years now, one of the most well known Green politicians] The realist caucus wants the successor to be Özdemir, the left-wingers want Lang instead (which doesn't even work because, in Baden-Wuerttemberg, for the post of minister-president there is a minimum age and not a minimum weight, but Thuringia has just shown us how quickly such details can be changed when necessary). So it looks like Özdemir has entered election campaigning mode and is now trying to not repeat the Greens' mistakes in Thuringia, Brandenburg, and Saxony, or else the Greens are even in danger of ceasing to be in the position of strongest party in Baden-Wuerttemberg.
Do they really give a shit or is this someone sensible vs someone really retarded and at the end of the day it's an optics game.
Cause I don't really see how someone can go from Refugees Yes, to no more refugees simply because of one of their family members being slightly abused by immigrants. There were politicians who had their kids raped and murdered and they still wanted more niggers.
 
If young liberal White women had power (whether directly or indirectly), I think they would push the red button to shut down this website (kiwifarms). That's reason enough to hate them. They are literally an existential threat to this forum.
Existential threats to this website so far: Vordrak, Donny Long, Matthew Prince, Keffals, Dong Long Gone, CEO of Cogent Dave Schaeffer, Russel Greer...

I wonder what all of these people have in common? They're all men. So if you think the mere "theoretical" threat of liberal women to this site is reason enough to hate all of them, shouldn't you by your own logic hate all men as well, since they are an actual, not just theoretical threat to the site?
 
Existential threats to this website so far: Vordrak, Donny Long, Matthew Prince, Keffals, Dong Long Gone, CEO of Cogent Dave Schaeffer, Russel Greer...

I wonder what all of these people have in common? They're all men. So if you think the mere "theoretical" threat of liberal women to this site is reason enough to hate all of them, shouldn't you by your own logic hate all men as well, since they are an actual, not just theoretical threat to the site?
Remind me, who did Dong Long Gone call to have a "girl talk" in the middle of the night and how did that conclude? And aren't you forgetting Jackie Singht at least?
 
How is a man harassing and threatening the family of someone a counter argument to anything I said? Jackie Singh has never accomplished single thing.
It wasn't a counterargument. Stop having a spergout everytime someone doesn't clap to everything you say
Edit: seeing how vigilantly you give reactions to everyone makes me almost feel sorry for you. Almost
 
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The funny part about the German Green Party is that it was once the party of younger people. But now the "right wing" AFD has become the party of the young people. The latest local election in Brandenburg showed that the AFD got the most votes from young people while the older people voted mostly SPD (left wing party). The Greens are imho the party of the old saying "If you aren't a communist when you are 20 you have no heart. If you're still a communist at 40 you have no brain". And as the young people suffer the most from heavy immigration (for example there are reports that kids at schools convert to Islam because of massive bullying from Muslim kids. Of course at one point the young ones look for someone to fix this shit
 
The funny part about the German Green Party is that it was once the party of younger people. But now the "right wing" AFD has become the party of the young people. The latest local election in Brandenburg showed that the AFD got the most votes from young people while the older people voted mostly SPD (left wing party). The Greens are imho the party of the old saying "If you aren't a communist when you are 20 you have no heart. If you're still a communist at 40 you have no brain". And as the young people suffer the most from heavy immigration (for example there are reports that kids at schools convert to Islam because of massive bullying from Muslim kids. Of course at one point the young ones look for someone to fix this shit
What about CDU? Weren't they the biggest around? And what actual role the Greens had in shutting down nuclear if any?
 
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