The Holocaust Thread - The Great Debate Between Affirmers, Revisionists and Deniers

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Chugger said:
you're just saying that though, based on an accusation from 2013. I have a much more substantive accusation from 2007, which you're not even going to read to verify that. So the argument is pretty much over at this point. You've stuck your head in the sand.
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Yeah you lose, sorry. If you want to be treated with respect, learn to be respectable. Stop justifying lies to push your point.
 
Chugger said:
There's images too.

I find it funny that you guys are afraid to drive traffic to an archived page of a .blogspot that doesn't even run ads . This is the revisionist mindset, the world must be a scary place for you
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You should unironically kill yourself if you’re going to keep shitting up this thread, you worthless little kike faggot.

All of your “arguments” have been eviscerated and you keep acting like your shit matters. Well, I have news for you: it doesn’t and you’re still a faggot.

Fuck all the way off.
 
No one has provided a serious answer to the real question.

Regardless of the reality of the situation, why should we allow Israel and the International Jewry to keep using the holocaust as a political weapon?
 
Preacher ✝ said:
No one has provided a serious answer to the real question.

Regardless of the reality of the situation, why should we allow Israel and the International Jewry to keep using the holocaust as a political weapon?
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You can't really stop them unless you make certain forms of speech illegal ( I wonder if people in this thread would like a world where Holocaust affirmers get thrown in jail, probably some I think)

You can call them out for hypocrisy (perpetuating a genocide in the name of a genocide), historical inaccuracies (such as bibby's quote about the Palestinian leader convincing Hitler to do the Holocaust)
 
Chugger said:
You can't really stop them
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We can stop caring about them and their sympathy bait. We can tell them to collectively fuck off. We can collectively denounce what they are doing.

We don't have to just keep letting them get away with it unchecked, which is what you seem to want.
 
Preacher ✝ said:
We can stop caring about them and their sympathy bait. We can tell them to collectively fuck off. We can collectively denounce what they are doing.

We don't have to just keep letting them get away with it unchecked, which is what you seem to want.
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I don't want them to do that. I pointed out 2 things I would do.

Assuming the Holocaust happened, and it is as they say, the evidence for it is strong, you're not going to be able to convince lots of people it didn't happen.
 
Chugger said:
Assuming the Holocaust happened, and it is as they say, the evidence for it is strong, you're not going to be able to convince lots of people it didn't happen.
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Doesn't matter. It's no longer about whether it happened.

It's now about whether we keep letting them use it as a weapon.

For example why is it controversial for AfD to win an election in Germany? Why do jews feel betrayed by this? Fucking ridiculous.
 
As far as I can tell chugger has only posted in this thread. Most people find this site looking for information about other people and then participate in general discussion threads like this after making at least one post about the lolcow or eceleb that drew them here. Not chugger. He is only here to affirm the validity of the Holocaust narrative. To me, this suggests chugger is jidf in name, and certainly is jidf in spirit.
 
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Chugger said:
This is the revisionist mindset, the world must be a scary place for you.
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We're just tired of your bullshit bad faith posting. You constantly over promise and under-deliver, if you deliver at all. It's a consistent pattern of yours where you make a claim, assert it is backed up by mountains of evidence and then, over a grueling and time wasting process of avoidance and excuses you eventually either try to send us off-site, produce nothing or some tangentially related thing with no providence that we must accept on your word.

You purport to be a smart fellow with considerable education and subject matter expertise in this area in particular, and discussions of this topic should not be novel, so why do you seem so ill-equipped to respond in a measured and clear fashion? One might think that the information and demonstrable proof would be at your fingertips, so why \does it take you so long to respond in even this unsatisfactory fashion?

If you were a well informed person with tons of material (not anecdotal or narrative) evidence to support you then step one would have been to present the complete truth in one simple, clear post. Not drag this affair out like you have nothing to support your point and are desperately searching the internet for anything you can copy-paste in while deliberately being obtuse and obnoxious.
 
Agreeably4263 said:
As far as I can tell chugger has only posted in this thread.
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The only example outside of this thread I found was the meta thread about him and Bones
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Granted, I didnt look particularly hard or thoroughly because I don't really care, so this is not definitive.

However if the overall sentiment is accurate that would mean the vast majority of his 1,222 posts were here.
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I also happened to notice this post in a response to a profile post.

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It's over a year old so maybe back then it was more accurate, idk.

Anyway I think I've made my case about the hall of cost fairly clear to anyone who isn't being willfully obtuse.
 
Bonesjones said:

Except this was from 2002, destroying both your timeline and your outright lies, yet again. So again, why do you lie to protect your friends?
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Are you talking about this lol?
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That's clearly just how long ARC was an operating entity.

Them being banned is mentioned in the HC blog article btw, you should read it.

John.Doe said:
We're just tired of your bullshit bad faith posting. You constantly over promise and under-deliver, if you deliver at all. It's a consistent pattern of yours where you make a claim, assert it is backed up by mountains of evidence and then, over a grueling and time wasting process of avoidance and excuses you eventually either try to send us off-site, produce nothing or some tangentially related thing with no providence that we must accept on your word.
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The pattern with you is we'll be talking and once things start getting meaty you will exit the conversation. Just look at the last one we had, which concerned the nature of forged documents. You want to pick up where we left off on that one buddy? Probably not.

Preacher ✝ said:
Doesn't matter. It's no longer about whether it happened.

It's now about whether we keep letting them use it as a weapon.
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You can either jail or punish them for saying things or debate their ideas. I support the latter option.

Preacher ✝ said:
However if the overall sentiment is accurate that would mean the vast majority of his 1,222 posts were here.
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That's true. I'm not "one of you guys". I think most of what goes on in this forum is lame and morally questionable. I respect that it is fairly heterodox, ie there's Nazis and Nazi bashers on here (I'm not the only one). But yes, my principal interest is debating the Holocaust and I just stated why I do it a few pages ago. I think it's interesting talking to people who believe in something that I find completely irrational (the Holocaust didn't happen, the Nazis treated the Jews super fairly all things considered, millions were resettled somewhere, etc)
 
Chugger said:
That's clearly just how long ARC was an operating entity.
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Then where is it here?

Chugger said:
The pattern with you is we'll be talking and once things start getting meaty you will exit the conversation.
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Yeah so when are you gonna answer all those questions you refuse to answer from me? You finally going to post those autopsy reports "you said you had around here somewhere" or those stockpiles for the crematorium? What about that LIDAR? What about the british document that shows the same number of jews in camps pre and post war? We all know you are a scared liar.
 
Bonesjones said:

Then where is it here?
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Idk man, dates are all over the site. I think it's just poorly run with disorganized leadership and people trying to cash in on donations. This sort of infighting occurred recently between revisionists on Codoh, leading to the shut down of the site and forums (forums still down!).

Bonesjones said:
Yeah so when are you gonna answer all those questions you refuse to answer from me? You finally going to post those autopsy reports "you said you had around here somewhere" or those stockpiles for the crematorium? What about that LIDAR? What about the british document that shows the same number of jews in camps pre and post war? We all know you are a scared liar.
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I'll talk to anyone else about anything. My only provision one thing at a time. You had your shot.
 
Chugger said:
Idk man, dates are all over the site. I think it's just poorly run with disorganized leadership and people trying to cash in on donations. This sort of infighting occurred recently between revisionists on Codoh, leading to the shut down of the site and forums (forums still down!).
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Yeah the site was down entirely and remade, that doesn't change anything. You've been exposed yet again for shilling your shitty blog and lying about it.
Chugger said:
I'll talk to anyone else about anything. My only provision one thing at a time. You had your shot.
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Hey look another lie.
 
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