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I've always wondered if there are any firefighter kiwis who can debunk this nonsense.
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Just Some Other Guy
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Imagine getting mad at fire departments.
Whatever. I don't care if they want overkill trucks and gear. It's one of the few times I actually see my tax dollars at work for something productive and essential.
I bet if these pricks were in a burning building they sure wouldn't be whining about "did you have to use such a big truck to save me? Think of the cyclists!"
Who am I kidding. They'd make up a story on reddit afterwards to whine about it.
Whatever. I don't care if they want overkill trucks and gear. It's one of the few times I actually see my tax dollars at work for something productive and essential.
I bet if these pricks were in a burning building they sure wouldn't be whining about "did you have to use such a big truck to save me? Think of the cyclists!"
Who am I kidding. They'd make up a story on reddit afterwards to whine about it.
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You don't have to imagine.
This is how cyclists treat emergency services:
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Modern ambulances are designed so they can start treating people as soon as they get inside, trying to stabilize the patient's injuries, etc. In third-world countries, they don't have that, so an ambulance is basically "get this person down to the hospital AS FAST AS YOU CAN".
I can't imagine ANY use what an "emergency motorcycle" would do that has any use at all.
Carrying a gun as a cyclist has its advantages, whether dispatching a vicious dog on your tail or making sure that Tyrone and Dehoovius don't mug you for your expensive bicycle, or just mug you for the hell of it.
Guns are not for waving them around and pointing them at innocent motorists; not only is that anti-social behavior like the "carry a brick" talk but also VERY illegal just about anywhere.
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It's clear these are the same fags that think "guns scary" and give no further thought than that. If you pull out a gun, you better be ready to use it in justified self-defense against somebody else threatening you with their gun or knife. Don't fire a warning shot either. And no, a car cutting you off or passing too close does not count as an imminent deadly threat that justifies deadly force.
Sunflower Samurai
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Smugging about not needing firefighters as first responders because wall AEDs exist is fucking mental, you might as well say you dont need firefighters because extinguishers exist, i'm somewhat confident that public AEDs are not at all to spec or have as much possibly life saving features compared to actual professional use ones in usage by health services and i do believe that public ones are also subject to maintenance by either an external company, or the building itself, leading to shenanagins if they are underfunded for whatever fucking reason, or just some random middle manager not making a call on time
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Off-topic but my memory was jogged by the biking while carrying thing:
Here in the Philippines there's wide adoption of motor scooters and motorbikes because of gridlock traffic, which they can weave and lane-split through. Naturally, this ends up being used for criminal activity too.
Riding-in-tandem crimes are crimes committed from or with a bike rider as a getaway vehicle. Shootings, snatchings (basically grabbing people's stuff) and other crimes are a big deal because they're hard to stop and track. Link for more info:
It is to the point that some cities even ban backriding unless the backrider's a kid or a woman, like so:
at this point I think our army should have official motorbike infantry/dragoons.
Here in the Philippines there's wide adoption of motor scooters and motorbikes because of gridlock traffic, which they can weave and lane-split through. Naturally, this ends up being used for criminal activity too.
Riding-in-tandem crimes are crimes committed from or with a bike rider as a getaway vehicle. Shootings, snatchings (basically grabbing people's stuff) and other crimes are a big deal because they're hard to stop and track. Link for more info:
It is to the point that some cities even ban backriding unless the backrider's a kid or a woman, like so:
at this point I think our army should have official motorbike infantry/dragoons.
Lobster Cult High Priest
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Manchildren who mooch rides off their friends or their parents
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Continuing my off-topic because I think it's relevant:
Quoting this post from the British Summer of Discontent thread because this is how riding-in-tandem is done for those interested.
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"Emergency motorcycle" can be quite useful, especially if off-roading. Anyone seriously offroad should know how to ride a motorcycle and be equipped to use one to reach civilization.
And emergency services ON motorcycles could have a supplemental use; especially since they could likely get to the scene of an incident a bit faster. But it would be supplemental.
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Maybe it might be useful in off-road, rural situations but again, those incidents are so far and few between that their everyday use in normal cities is functionally zero.
I can see them argue about narrow streets where cars can't get to, but there's a reason why those are completely extinct except for third-world shantytowns and tourist-oriented historical sites.
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The problem with public AEDs is they're used by members of the public, instead of doctors. I'm trained to use one, they're pretty idiot proof but they are nothing like the professional models with variable settings used by someone that knows all about restarting hearts. Anyone that thinks you can just use wall AEDs for every cardiac emergency is the kind of retard that thinks you only need one six-inch crescent wrench for all your nut and bolt turning needs.
RE: the firetruck retardation- this is the sort of thing that one of those deboonker Youtubers should take a crack at. It's so tantalizingly easy to prove he's talking bullshit and you know the seething from him over in his little heavily moderated comment-deleting corner would be delectable.
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Now I’m hoping there are fire truck autists with even half the dedication of the railfan autists and one gets a burr up his ass to do a ten hour documentary on it backed with facts and logic (I bet USA has more “smaller trucks” than Europe has, for example).
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AEDs, like fire extinguishers and hoses for occupant use are all just a measure to keep things from getting worse until emergency services arrive. Often they're all tied into building alarms so as soon as they get used the fire department is called anyway.
And you're right, you also need a twelve-inch crescent wrench.
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They also expire too. A state law was passed when I was in high school for every school to have one but I think it had to be replaced because they only last like two years. The law also included immunity (which was later expanded in 2021 to private businesses if they had one) because of the risk they carry.
Also unbelievable that they argue that "you don't need emergency services because you have AEDs" yet even suggesting have you have your own gun is verboten. (As useful as a gun is when the police are too far away, "you don't need the police because you have a gun" is an absurd argument if you want to have a functioning society).
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I bet the size ratio between firetruck : street is the same in Europe and America, so it doesn't really matter what the actual size of them is. But ultimately it's not about fire truck design, it's about Jason's wants. Jason wants smaller roads so he can have a huge bike lane to wobble all over, and since you can't ban emergency vehicles they MUST be made smaller. Jason doesn't want to look like a dork wearing a helmet, so helmets MUST NOT be mandated by law. "I should get what I want because I'm better than others" is the driving force behind is arguments, so trying to counter them with factual details doesn't work.
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Do they also hate Airport Fire Trucks, for being too big too?
It's as if they don't realize that the airport trucks are larger, because they carry a LOT more water, since you need a lot more water (and other stuff like foam) for aircraft fires.
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Like all good researchers he starts with a conclusion and then molds the evidence to fit that conclusion. He inexplicably hates firetrucks therefore they must be terrible.