The Paranormal

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You do know that ouija boards are just a parlour trick that uses the ideomotor effect and your demonology is just ripped from The Omen and is /x/ level retardation? Are you going to start telling us about Slenderman next?

Some people shouldn’t be allowed on the internet.
You just recited an explanation of how it works when there's no spirit interacting with you. You haven’t disproven that ouija boards are incapable of contacting spirits, nor that spirits never communicate with mediums through various means. Not exactly science is it, just to memorize and recite. You're so smart.
 
You just recited an explanation of how it works when there's no spirit interacting with you. You haven’t disproven that ouija boards are incapable of contacting spirits, nor that spirits never communicate with mediums through various means. Not exactly science is it, just to memorize and recite. You're so smart.
There are no spirits, bro, there’s just mental illness.
 
There are no spirits, bro, there’s just mental illness.
Can't prove a negative, faggot.

And hey, if you say so. But I believe in the Torah, and there are spirits. I'm sure an online douchebag sciencesplaining the ideomotor effect knows better than millennia of people across all cultures saying they do exist and meddle with our world.
 
Can't prove a negative, faggot.

And hey, if you say so. But I believe in the Torah, and there are spirits. I'm sure an online douchebag sciencesplaining the ideomotor effect knows better than millennia of people across all cultures saying they do exist and meddle with our world.
Like I said, mental illness
 
You just recited an explanation of how it works when there's no spirit interacting with you. You haven’t disproven that ouija boards are incapable of contacting spirits, nor that spirits never communicate with mediums through various means. Not exactly science is it, just to memorize and recite. You're so smart.
I've honestly never trusted ouija boards (too many tales of malevolent entities like the Zozo demon not respecting the "goodbye" message that supposed to end contact with said entites) but other things like EVPs and entities showing up on Kinect cameras fascinate me.
And hey, if you say so. But I believe in the Torah, and there are spirits. I'm sure an online douchebag sciencesplaining the ideomotor effect knows better than millennia of people across all cultures saying they do exist and meddle with our world.
I'm not necessarily religious but I've seen things that I couldn't explain and I can accept that there are some things that science just can't explain at the current time. Will they be explained at a later date when methods and technology get better? Probably, but that's a given.
Some people shouldn’t be allowed on the internet.
There are no spirits, bro, there’s just mental illness.
Like I said, mental illness
You sound like a diet Android Raptor, you just seem to hate anything that involves religion and/or spirituality and anyone that doesn't buy into the "Believe the Science!" schtick I see everywhere nowadays.

And that ultimately leads me to ask you this question.

If you hate religion, spirituality, and people who believe in those kinds of things then why are you in this thread?
 
I've honestly never trusted ouija boards (too many tales of malevolent entities like the Zozo demon not respecting the "goodbye" message that supposed to end contact with said entites)
I don't trust them either, and I don't think it's the board. I think inviting these beings to communicate with you by any means opens some door for them, and once it's open it's hard to be rid of them. I doubt forcing the planchette to "goodbye" obliges them to depart.
I'm not necessarily religious but I've seen things that I couldn't explain and I can accept that there are some things that science just can't explain at the current time. Will they be explained at a later date when methods and technology get better? Probably, but that's a given.
Science is great, but some things are beyond its purview and ability.
 
I don't trust them either, and I don't think it's the board. I think inviting these beings to communicate with you by any means opens some door for them, and once it's open it's hard to be rid of them. I doubt forcing the planchette to "goodbye" obliges them to depart.
Yeah I don’t mess with them. What’s the upside? And if there are invisible entities, they are at an advantage since they know their capabilities and I do not.

It hardly seems like enough fun to be worth the (small) chance of getting fucked with by something I can’t see or know the rules.

One pattern I notice repeating in stories of paranormal happenings (for example the weird cult around Carlos Castenada (for you youngsters he was ground zero for so much New Age bullshit, and he lived his last years with a bunch of witches who later disappeared): some entities whether ghosts, aliens, or otherworldly teacher, catches the attention of an individual or group. Then the targets spend years, all their money, fascination and attention trying to solve the mystery that eventually goes nowhere and eventually becomes a wild goose chase. It only ends when the target is dead or broke, and their lives are at least fucked up. No one ever gets a real answer.

So one of my theories is that if these entities exist they might feed off of this interest somehow.
 
So one of my theories is that if these entities exist they might feed off of this interest somehow.
Another theory comes from theology. Fallen angels, which is what demons are, vex and tempt humanity to sin, and also pose as deities to try to trick people into communing and worshipping them. I think pagan priests did this when they weren't faking it.

All the gods of various pantheons could possess people. It's the etymology of enthusiasm, literally 'possessed by a god'. Incidents such as Donar's Oak is seen today by historians as a better religion supplanting paganism and idolatry which were demonstrably inferior, and this just being another in many such events as Europe Christianized. However, the people's conversion to Christendom, and the pagan sacred grove removed with the wood made into a church, was not just the victory of a good idea over a bad one. It was actually the unseating of a great spirit which dwelled there, a demon masquerading as a divinity, inhabiting an oak. Sort of puts Shinto in a frightening light.
 
Ouija boards are very strange. I didn't buy into the reputation they'd gained from horror movies and whatnot. Many years ago, I started using one with my brother and some friends on various nights. Something I noted is that the room's atmosphere would usually change. Sometimes it would get cold in the room. After using the board, the hand I used to touch the planchette would be freezing. This also happened to my brother and friend (the 2 people I would most often use the board with). Sometimes the planchette would move slowly, but other times it would move so fast we had to pay very close attention otherwise we'd miss what the "spirit" we were talking to was saying.

One notable experience we had was one late November night, a group of us trekked out to a cabin in the woods for a night of drinking and generally just fucking around. My friend had the board with him, so we decided to use it. We ended up speaking to the spirit of a man who claimed he'd been beaten and hanged by a small mob for a crime that he didn't commit (a sexual assault). I don't remember the exact year he said he died in, but it was the late 1800s. He told us he had been buried in an unmarked spot in those woods.

I say this was notable because, as I recall, this was the only time we used the board and spoke with a spirit that actually sounded like a human being. Every other time we used the board, it seemed like whoever we were communicating with was something else.

Anyway, my attitude toward oujia boards changed as a result of actually using one. I haven't used one for many years now and don't plan on using one again. I do believe if users aren't careful, it's possible to invite things into their lives that they really wouldn't want hanging around.
 
Never had a paranormal experience myself, but everyone I've ever met who uttered anything close to the phrase "I dont believe in the paranormal" was an annoying retard at best.
 
Ouija boards are very strange. I didn't buy into the reputation they'd gained from horror movies and whatnot. Many years ago, I started using one with my brother and some friends on various nights. Something I noted is that the room's atmosphere would usually change. Sometimes it would get cold in the room. After using the board, the hand I used to touch the planchette would be freezing. This also happened to my brother and friend (the 2 people I would most often use the board with). Sometimes the planchette would move slowly, but other times it would move so fast we had to pay very close attention otherwise we'd miss what the "spirit" we were talking to was saying.

One notable experience we had was one late November night, a group of us trekked out to a cabin in the woods for a night of drinking and generally just fucking around. My friend had the board with him, so we decided to use it. We ended up speaking to the spirit of a man who claimed he'd been beaten and hanged by a small mob for a crime that he didn't commit (a sexual assault). I don't remember the exact year he said he died in, but it was the late 1800s. He told us he had been buried in an unmarked spot in those woods.

I say this was notable because, as I recall, this was the only time we used the board and spoke with a spirit that actually sounded like a human being. Every other time we used the board, it seemed like whoever we were communicating with was something else.

Anyway, my attitude toward oujia boards changed as a result of actually using one. I haven't used one for many years now and don't plan on using one again. I do believe if users aren't careful, it's possible to invite things into their lives that they really wouldn't want hanging around.

Ouija boards and tarot cards fall into the same category for me. Props that on themselves are absolutely meaningless but give the user something to focus on. If there's any spirit haunting it, it's a ghost of a Chinese worker who threw himself off the roof because he couldn't stand working another hour in factory making this shit.

Now the belief you put into it and thinking these tools are working is where the magic (heh) comes in. Honestly think eventually they will "discover" and understand some type of belief-arium element that causes this effect and our transceiver brains is how we are making contact. Similar to gravity, invisible force that's nothing in small amounts but once it concentrates then it's tremendous.

If you don't want to mess with occult props you can see a similar effect in gambling. Find a craps table that's lively and find one that's dead. The excitement of everyone at the table, the flow, the mood, etc. The dices are hot and everyone is winning (to extent. Luck can only be pushed so far). Go to the dead table and you will be out shortly with a lighter wallet.

I'd be curious to see if the statistics hold or if once placed under a microscope it canceled out. Of course I only speak from personal experience of playing and noticing the difference in environment v. outcome.
 
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Now the belief you put into it and thinking these tools are working is where the magic (heh) comes in. Honestly think eventually they will "discover" and understand some type of belief-arium element that causes this effect and our transceiver brains is how we are making contact. Similar to gravity, invisible force that's nothing in small amounts but once it concentrates then it's tremendous.
There's that and also observation as well. There's a reason that you hear about magical rituals being carried out in the dead of night and behind closed doors. Observing something tends to either disrupt or enhance occult dealings and the effects of it tend to be unpredictable and prone to irony. That's why prayers are typically meant to be private and you're never supposed to talk about a project you plan to manifest until after it's done.
Edit: You're actually kind of alluding to it, even
I'd be curious to see if the statistics hold or if once placed under a microscope it canceled out. Of course I only speak from personal experience of playing and noticing the difference in environment v. outcome.
You probably could do a study and find out more about it but it could go another way. Once you start measuring these things, it tends to become diluted somewhat and the paranormal hates being studied.
 
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I have a few experiences with "ghosts" that involves movement of objects, disembodied vocal sounds that seemed physically impossible. I think what happened was real because I had a witness with me. But I have doubts that it was the souls of dead people doing it.

I think ghosts and UFO sightings are natural phenomenon that we don't understand yet. Thus, we assign some kind of spiritual explanation for it. Just like what our ancestors did with droughts, storms, the ocean's tide, etc.

I do have a schizo theory that ghosts and UFOs are a species of organisms that we can't perceive properly.
 
Once you start measuring these things, it tends to become diluted somewhat and the paranormal hates being studied.
Even living people don't want intensely personal interactions or statements to be witnessed or catalogued by a third party. Imagine a young couple being asked what intensely personal things they say to each other romantically. They'd either tell you to fuck off or they'd give a heavily edited version. I imagine ghosts feel similarly and don't feel like talking when they see they're being recorded.
 
To start, apparently, my great or great great grandfather on my Mother's side was a free mason, quite the asshole too as I have been told. I have heard about the subject of generational curses and it wouldn't be surprising if that bastard did something to cast a shadow over his descendents. In more recent times, when they were kids, both my Mom and my Dad had exposure to the Ouiji Board, with my Mom and my great aunt playing one once when they were teenagers meanwhile my Dad was witness to two of my distant cousins using one when he was a kid and they were teenagers. My own younger sister even had some friends who apparently used one on occasions, however as far as she has said, she herself didn't use one herself. She is no longer in contact with said friends, who were a mixture of stupid white kids and actual ghetto trash. Surprisingly, while my Mom, Dad, and younger sister have experienced various forms of paranormal activity over the years, I myself haven't experienced anything, for which I am deeply grateful. We are all officially Catholic although my mother gets lazy from time to time and my younger sister has been unfortunately slipping since late elementary to early middle school, where she met said shitty friends. I have more in-depth info but its stuff I don't really want to talk about as it even freaks me out. @Michael Wade and @Agamemnon Busmalis, if you guys want to weigh in on this, you can.
 
When my brother was sixish he decided that he would talk to an imaginary friend named Susan in his room. It went on for about a week before our Mother had enough and decided to take matters into her own hands. She hid around the corner and waited for him to start talking to Susan. She ran in, splashed holy water everywhere, told Susan to fuck off and told my brother that Susan is a pedo and he shouldn’t talk to her anymore.

It worked.
 
I don't trust them either, and I don't think it's the board. I think inviting these beings to communicate with you by any means opens some door for them, and once it's open it's hard to be rid of them. I doubt forcing the planchette to "goodbye" obliges them to depart.
It doesn't, it just tells them you're done. Good and neutral ones will respect it but evil ones now have the door wide open to cause trouble. They're not remotely above lying about leaving either.

We are all officially Catholic although my mother gets lazy from time to time and my younger sister has been unfortunately slipping since late elementary to early middle school, where she met said shitty friends. I have more in-depth info but its stuff I don't really want to talk about as it even freaks me out. @Michael Wade and @Agamemnon Busmalis, if you guys want to weigh in on this, you can.
There's no evidence in Church history or discussed in its teachings about generational curses so they don't exist. Maybe prior to Christ but not now. People can be affected by cursed objects in the home, however; this is why you should be careful buying anything used.

If the board is still around, I would get rid of it. You don't need to do anything special, you can just throw it in the trash.

Otherwise I'd focus on your own prayer and spirituality first and see how things develop. Confession and especially prayer and the Eucharist will help.
 
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I have an odd set of anecdotes about from divining the paranormal to odd sightings and interactions. No particular order.
  • As a wee bagronk walking to the bus stop, there was a mass of blackberry brambles I'd pass regularly and the property it was on was one of those old  haunts that just made you feel weird. One day there was a big ol' st bernard sized dog sitting in it staring at me. Damn thing was white as snow other than its eyes and nose. Barked once, I ran away. Never saw it again. Everyone I talked to after that insisted there's never been a dog like that in the area, ever.
  • My brother saw a lady pick up her own legs like a suitcase and walk into the trees by the road. Same bus stop route.
  • I, again as a child and living in the same house that the previous two events happened around, personally saw a big man in a red flannel coat fighting with trying to unlock the door to our house from inside. When the cops arrived there was no sign there was anyone ever there in the first place.
  • Doors and window locks would be randomly unlocked, same house. Very irregular, but happened once or twice a every six months; alarms never went off or motion sensors tripped. Turns out the property used to be on ceremonial grounds long ago. Parents sold the property shortly after the red shirt guy from above.
  • In my edgy gothpunk days I listened to a binaural audio file called something like the gates of hades or something cornball, this was well before I got into any recreational disco cabbage mind. Anyway, I did the whole ceremoniously mockery of acting like I was metaphorically going to 'open the door and invite whatever in'. Well, the noise in the track did a subtle change and I felt a sensation along my back like something was tracing a finger along it from inside my mattress; my mattress was on the floor at the time. Threw my headphones across the room, deleted the file and player, and stopped making light of the concept of they have to be invited in first, it'll be fine. Sometimes hope isnt at the bottom of a box that shouldnt have been opened, it's safe to say.
  • Got my hands on some Elder Furthark runes made from elk horns, did a blind pull asking a broad ended question, forgot exactly what it was exactly but it involved christianity and catholicism i remember that much. Pulled the Wyrd rune and Ansuz-reversed. Found it very odd getting those two in that order, stopped, did it again after shaking the bag, pulled the same two. Shrugged and chocked it up to that's what they wanna say, whatever it meant. Then went to sleep. Next day, pope John Paul II kicked the bucket.
 
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